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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
June 23 2012 16:28 GMT
#22901
On June 23 2012 22:20 MrMagick wrote:
Ok, so i have thought about my computer build, and here is what i have:

Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus Midi Tower

DvD burner: Sony Optiarc DVD±RW Writer, AD-5280S

Graphics Card: Gainward GeForce GTX 670 2GB PhysX CUDA

Harddrive: Seagate Barracuda® Green 2TB

RAM: Kingston DDR3 HyperX 1600MHz 8GB, Kit w/2X HyperX 4GB DDR3, CL9-9-9-27, 240pin

Processor: Intel Core i5 2500k

Motherboard: ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3, Socket-1155, ATX, Z68, DDR3, 3xPCIe(3.0)x16, CFX&SLI, blablabla

PSU: Corsair TX V2 650W PSU

Is there any problems with this build? Do i need to change something or is everything alright? Can you recommend any different parts?


The psu you chose is overpriced, the Ram is 1.65v which is bad, the hard drive is 5900rpm which is too slow for an OS drive, No reason to not go with a newer gen CPU+Motherboard and your missing a Aftermarket CPU cooler.
Get these instead:

i5-3570K
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=660227

MSI Z77-G43
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=746688

Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200rpm
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=653071

Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3-1600 1.5v
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=640645

XFX ProSeries Core 450 80+Bronze
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=657684

Cooler Master hyper 212 evo
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=657097
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
June 23 2012 16:30 GMT
#22902
Is the HyperX kit 1.65V? You want 1.5V RAM.

You sure you want the last-generation i5-2500k and 6 series motherboard? You really need a -V Pro motherboard from Asus?

TX V2 650W is very good, but compared to what everybody else sells, it's maybe the worst thing Corsair has on the market. For example, XFX Core 650W uses the same electronic design (same quality), is quieter, actually has 4 PCIe power connectors instead of 2, and is usually cheaper. You don't even need 650W for 2x GTX 670s and i5-2500k.
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
June 23 2012 18:55 GMT
#22903
Ok so it looks like im going to go with this build, ordering on Monday. Any last minute suggestions or updates? Also, I'd like a really cheap power supply / harddrive to throw into my old computer (going to give it away to sister), any ideas?

CPU - i5 3550 ($199 - http://ncix.com/products/?sku=70542)
GPU - Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 860MHZ 2GB ($243 - http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD5668)
MOBO - MSI H77MA-G43 ($89 - http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=28220BD3090)
RAM - Corsair XMS3 8GB 2x4GB DDR3 ($34 - http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/233287/CMP8GX3M2B1333C9/CORSAIR/)
PS - Corsair TX650 (Reusing from old PC)
HDD - Seagate 250GB (Reusing from old PC)
Optical Drive - Taken from old PC

COSTS: $565 + Case + SSD

Cases: - http://www.ncix.com/products/?minorcatid=104&po=1&ps=2 (Under $80 after rebate is OK)
+ Show Spoiler +

$ 35 - http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63256&promoid=1048
$ 35 - http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57910&vpn=Z9 Plus&manufacture=ZALMAN TECH&promoid=1048
$60*(rebate) - http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=51309&vpn=MiniP180White&manufacture=Antec&promoid=1387


SSD - http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?minorcatid=1275
+ Show Spoiler +

$122 Crucial M4 SSD C400 128GB 2.5in SATA3 6GBPS - http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60445
$79*(rebate) OCZ Agility 3 120GB 2.5IN SATA3 6GPS - http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=61051&vpn=AGT3-25SAT3-120G&manufacture=OCZ Technology&promoid=1048



skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 23 2012 19:55 GMT
#22904
Caviar Blue 500GB @ $70: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58402&promoid=1048 and an Antec Neo Eco 450C @ $40: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60491&promoid=1048
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
June 23 2012 20:09 GMT
#22905
Thanks skyr,

is there any difference between these two SSD?

$122 Crucial M4 SSD C400 128GB 2.5in SATA3 6GBPS - http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60445
$79*(rebate) OCZ Agility 3 120GB 2.5IN SATA3 6GPS - http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=61051&vpn=AGT3-25SAT3-120G&manufacture=OCZ Technology&promoid=1048

both seem relatively similar except for 128GB vs 120 GB, except the OCZ is ~$40 cheaper
phathom321
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1730 Posts
June 23 2012 20:21 GMT
#22906
Hi, I'm thinking about getting a blu-ray burner for my computer, but I'm kind of a noob when it comes to computers >.< so I have a few questions.

With the burner, can I still watch the blu-rays on the computer? Like it's not used for ONLY burning blu-rays.
And will I be able to put regular DVDs in it and watch them?

Tyvm ^^

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136250 This is the one I'm considering getting.
"Dying in the line of duty is heroic, but dying while unemployed is just stupid." -L
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 23 2012 20:32 GMT
#22907
On June 24 2012 05:09 Masq wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Thanks skyr,

is there any difference between these two SSD?

$122 Crucial M4 SSD C400 128GB 2.5in SATA3 6GBPS - http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60445
$79*(rebate) OCZ Agility 3 120GB 2.5IN SATA3 6GPS - http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=61051&vpn=AGT3-25SAT3-120G&manufacture=OCZ Technology&promoid=1048

both seem relatively similar except for 128GB vs 120 GB, except the OCZ is ~$40 cheaper


Agility 3 is based on the second generation Sandforce controller (which has a bad reputation early on in its life cycle for instability but that's been fixed with a firmware). Crucial M4 is based on Marvell and is a popular choice since it's inexpensive and reliable. The majority of everyone you ask will say get the M4.


On June 24 2012 05:21 phathom321 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hi, I'm thinking about getting a blu-ray burner for my computer, but I'm kind of a noob when it comes to computers >.< so I have a few questions.

With the burner, can I still watch the blu-rays on the computer? Like it's not used for ONLY burning blu-rays.
And will I be able to put regular DVDs in it and watch them?

Tyvm ^^

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136250 This is the one I'm considering getting.


Yes, a BD burner will be able to read and write BDs and DVDs.
MrMagick
Profile Joined May 2012
Sweden9 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-23 20:41:14
June 23 2012 20:39 GMT
#22908
On June 24 2012 01:28 iTzSnypah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 22:20 MrMagick wrote:
Ok, so i have thought about my computer build, and here is what i have:

Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus Midi Tower

DvD burner: Sony Optiarc DVD±RW Writer, AD-5280S

Graphics Card: Gainward GeForce GTX 670 2GB PhysX CUDA

Harddrive: Seagate Barracuda® Green 2TB

RAM: Kingston DDR3 HyperX 1600MHz 8GB, Kit w/2X HyperX 4GB DDR3, CL9-9-9-27, 240pin

Processor: Intel Core i5 2500k

Motherboard: ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3, Socket-1155, ATX, Z68, DDR3, 3xPCIe(3.0)x16, CFX&SLI, blablabla

PSU: Corsair TX V2 650W PSU

Is there any problems with this build? Do i need to change something or is everything alright? Can you recommend any different parts?


The psu you chose is overpriced, the Ram is 1.65v which is bad, the hard drive is 5900rpm which is too slow for an OS drive, No reason to not go with a newer gen CPU+Motherboard and your missing a Aftermarket CPU cooler.
Get these instead:

i5-3570K
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=660227

MSI Z77-G43
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=746688

Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200rpm
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=653071

Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3-1600 1.5v
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=640645

XFX ProSeries Core 450 80+Bronze
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=657684

Cooler Master hyper 212 evo
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=657097



Thanks a lot, but can the 450W PSU handle overclocking the i5?

And also can that motherboard overclock?

I was planning to SLI in the future, don't i need 650W and a better motherboard for that?

Again, thanks for the reply!

Edit: The reason that i went for the older motherboard and processor, was that it was a package deal on komplett and it saved me some money.
"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 23 2012 20:44 GMT
#22909
All Z77 boards can overclock.

Yes the XFX Core Edition 450 can handle an overclocked 3570k and a single GPU configuration. You'll need a bigger one if you want to do SLI. And yes you'll need another motherboard for SLI.
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
June 23 2012 20:59 GMT
#22910
On June 24 2012 05:39 MrMagick wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On June 24 2012 01:28 iTzSnypah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 22:20 MrMagick wrote:
Ok, so i have thought about my computer build, and here is what i have:

Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus Midi Tower

DvD burner: Sony Optiarc DVD±RW Writer, AD-5280S

Graphics Card: Gainward GeForce GTX 670 2GB PhysX CUDA

Harddrive: Seagate Barracuda® Green 2TB

RAM: Kingston DDR3 HyperX 1600MHz 8GB, Kit w/2X HyperX 4GB DDR3, CL9-9-9-27, 240pin

Processor: Intel Core i5 2500k

Motherboard: ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3, Socket-1155, ATX, Z68, DDR3, 3xPCIe(3.0)x16, CFX&SLI, blablabla

PSU: Corsair TX V2 650W PSU

Is there any problems with this build? Do i need to change something or is everything alright? Can you recommend any different parts?


The psu you chose is overpriced, the Ram is 1.65v which is bad, the hard drive is 5900rpm which is too slow for an OS drive, No reason to not go with a newer gen CPU+Motherboard and your missing a Aftermarket CPU cooler.
Get these instead:

i5-3570K
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=660227

MSI Z77-G43
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=746688

Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200rpm
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=653071

Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3-1600 1.5v
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=640645

XFX ProSeries Core 450 80+Bronze
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=657684

Cooler Master hyper 212 evo
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=657097



Thanks a lot, but can the 450W PSU handle overclocking the i5?

And also can that motherboard overclock?

I was planning to SLI in the future, don't i need 650W and a better motherboard for that?

Again, thanks for the reply!

Edit: The reason that i went for the older motherboard and processor, was that it was a package deal on komplett and it saved me some money.

I went with the information that you posted further back in the thread. You should of stated the changes when you asked about the build.
On May 26 2012 06:36 MrMagick wrote:
What is your budget?

Around 1000 euros, I can stretch to about 1200 euros if it is worth the money

What is your resolution?

1920×1080

What are you using it for?

Gaming, pretty new games.

What is your upgrade cycle?

2-3 years.

When do you plan on building it?

Maybe one or two months from now.

Do you plan on overclocking?

I don't know how to do it, but if it is required to build a good pc, then i will figure out how to do it. I don't plan on it.

Do you need an Operating System?

Yes, Windows.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Nope.

Where are you buying your parts from?

I live in Sweden, but i don't know any good sites or stores that i can buy from. Maybe http://www.komplett.se will do.

Please reply with a good build, and thank you in advance.


That being said, the MSI Z77-G45 and XFX Core Edition 650w is what you want if you want to SLI.

http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=749858
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=657686
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-23 21:10:49
June 23 2012 21:09 GMT
#22911
Looking into getting a new laptop since my old laptop was stolen a few months ago. I already have a powerful enough desktop, I would be using this for work, playing SC2 on (low-medium is fine), and for bringing to barcrafts to stream off of. We typically have the laptop connected to a 1280x720 HD projector (22' or so if that matters) running an HD IPL/MLG/GSL stream. Going to be connecting speakers to it via a 3.5mm audio jack specifically and connecting to the HD projector with HDMI.

Hoping to spend as little as possible without trading for quality too much. Can anyone make some recommendations? I can go over budget if need be, but I'd like to spend <$600 CAD. Needs to be capable of being used for the above tasks primarily.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-23 21:54:53
June 23 2012 21:53 GMT
#22912
On June 24 2012 03:55 Masq wrote:
Ok so it looks like im going to go with this build, ordering on Monday. Any last minute suggestions or updates? Also, I'd like a really cheap power supply / harddrive to throw into my old computer (going to give it away to sister), any ideas?

CPU - i5 3550 ($199 - http://ncix.com/products/?sku=70542)
GPU - Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 860MHZ 2GB ($243 - http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD5668)
MOBO - MSI H77MA-G43 ($89 - http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=28220BD3090)
RAM - Corsair XMS3 8GB 2x4GB DDR3 ($34 - http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/233287/CMP8GX3M2B1333C9/CORSAIR/)
PS - Corsair TX650 (Reusing from old PC)
HDD - Seagate 250GB (Reusing from old PC)
Optical Drive - Taken from old PC

COSTS: $565 + Case + SSD

Cases: - http://www.ncix.com/products/?minorcatid=104&po=1&ps=2 (Under $80 after rebate is OK)
+ Show Spoiler +

$ 35 - http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63256&promoid=1048
$ 35 - http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57910&vpn=Z9 Plus&manufacture=ZALMAN TECH&promoid=1048
$60*(rebate) - http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=51309&vpn=MiniP180White&manufacture=Antec&promoid=1387


SSD - http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?minorcatid=1275
+ Show Spoiler +

$122 Crucial M4 SSD C400 128GB 2.5in SATA3 6GBPS - http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60445
$79*(rebate) OCZ Agility 3 120GB 2.5IN SATA3 6GPS - http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=61051&vpn=AGT3-25SAT3-120G&manufacture=OCZ Technology&promoid=1048





A friend just suggested another company called MemoryExpress. They apparently price match AND give you an additional discount for 25% of the difference.

For example, my order would now look like this.
Edit: Website PriceMatch Link http://www.memoryexpress.com/Policies/PriceProtection.cm.aspx

i5 3550 - NCIX($199.99), Price matched to MemoryExpress($224.99) for a new total of $193.74
RadeonHD7850 - DirectCanada($243) to MemoryExpress($259.99) for a new total of $238.75

You get the idea, nothing absolutely amazing, but you can easily save a a good $5-10 per item, so if you're building a whole new system it can add up. Just thought I'd throw the website out there for other Canadians.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 23 2012 22:25 GMT
#22913
It's 1 per customer.
MrMagick
Profile Joined May 2012
Sweden9 Posts
June 23 2012 23:03 GMT
#22914
On June 24 2012 05:59 iTzSnypah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 05:39 MrMagick wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On June 24 2012 01:28 iTzSnypah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 22:20 MrMagick wrote:
Ok, so i have thought about my computer build, and here is what i have:

Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus Midi Tower

DvD burner: Sony Optiarc DVD±RW Writer, AD-5280S

Graphics Card: Gainward GeForce GTX 670 2GB PhysX CUDA

Harddrive: Seagate Barracuda® Green 2TB

RAM: Kingston DDR3 HyperX 1600MHz 8GB, Kit w/2X HyperX 4GB DDR3, CL9-9-9-27, 240pin

Processor: Intel Core i5 2500k

Motherboard: ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3, Socket-1155, ATX, Z68, DDR3, 3xPCIe(3.0)x16, CFX&SLI, blablabla

PSU: Corsair TX V2 650W PSU

Is there any problems with this build? Do i need to change something or is everything alright? Can you recommend any different parts?


The psu you chose is overpriced, the Ram is 1.65v which is bad, the hard drive is 5900rpm which is too slow for an OS drive, No reason to not go with a newer gen CPU+Motherboard and your missing a Aftermarket CPU cooler.
Get these instead:

i5-3570K
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=660227

MSI Z77-G43
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=746688

Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200rpm
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=653071

Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3-1600 1.5v
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=640645

XFX ProSeries Core 450 80+Bronze
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=657684

Cooler Master hyper 212 evo
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=657097



Thanks a lot, but can the 450W PSU handle overclocking the i5?

And also can that motherboard overclock?

I was planning to SLI in the future, don't i need 650W and a better motherboard for that?

Again, thanks for the reply!

Edit: The reason that i went for the older motherboard and processor, was that it was a package deal on komplett and it saved me some money.

I went with the information that you posted further back in the thread. You should of stated the changes when you asked about the build.
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2012 06:36 MrMagick wrote:
What is your budget?

Around 1000 euros, I can stretch to about 1200 euros if it is worth the money

What is your resolution?

1920×1080

What are you using it for?

Gaming, pretty new games.

What is your upgrade cycle?

2-3 years.

When do you plan on building it?

Maybe one or two months from now.

Do you plan on overclocking?

I don't know how to do it, but if it is required to build a good pc, then i will figure out how to do it. I don't plan on it.

Do you need an Operating System?

Yes, Windows.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Nope.

Where are you buying your parts from?

I live in Sweden, but i don't know any good sites or stores that i can buy from. Maybe http://www.komplett.se will do.

Please reply with a good build, and thank you in advance.


That being said, the MSI Z77-G45 and XFX Core Edition 650w is what you want if you want to SLI.

http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=749858
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=657686


Ok thanks, sorry that i didn't say anything about my earlier post, i just thought that no one noticed it.
"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
June 23 2012 23:41 GMT
#22915
On June 24 2012 07:25 skyR wrote:
It's 1 per customer.


Nah I called the edmonton store, and they said they can price match everything.

The only issue they mentioned is for example, newegg is having a sale, and its $50 off. They won't sell you 100 items for the $50 off price. I used my items as an example and they said thats perfectly fine.

I'll let you guys know how it goes
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
June 23 2012 23:50 GMT
#22916
On June 24 2012 08:41 Masq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 07:25 skyR wrote:
It's 1 per customer.


Nah I called the edmonton store, and they said they can price match everything.

The only issue they mentioned is for example, newegg is having a sale, and its $50 off. They won't sell you 100 items for the $50 off price. I used my items as an example and they said thats perfectly fine.

I'll let you guys know how it goes


Check how much they tax in your province and also shipping too.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 23 2012 23:54 GMT
#22917
Alberta still has 5% GST. All Canadian retailers are required to charge you GST so that's sort of irrelevant?
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
June 24 2012 00:28 GMT
#22918
I was under the impression that you would have to pay prov. sales taxes on top of gst if the retailer is based in your province of residence/shipping. Im not sure where memory express or he lives.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 24 2012 00:34 GMT
#22919
No PST for Alberta.
Melancholia
Profile Joined March 2010
United States717 Posts
June 24 2012 02:04 GMT
#22920
My friend is looking to build a computer for gaming/streaming. He's aiming for longevity and flexibility first, and his budget is up to $2000 or so. His primary concern is that he not have to build anything again for a while, and that what he builds now is able to handle gaming and streaming effectively. I pulled a lot of the recommendations from this thread already, I just want to check in to see if maybe we chose the wrong 670 or some such.

PC parts list here: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/aIaf
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