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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 21:09:26
June 20 2012 20:49 GMT
#22841
@Tryxtira

Yes, the 7950 is significantly better than a 570. But I was recommending the 670, which is generally regarded as a little better than the 7950. The 7000 series GPUs are perfectly fine though, and generally not too far off a decent price point. On a possibly related subject, it looks like none of those links work (I was using google translate, so I'm not sure if part got cut off or didn't copy over well or something). Sorry. Hopefully you can just search komplett.se for the part names.

There's not a big difference between z77 & z68. Usually they're about the same price though, and the lower end z77 boards have onboard usb 3.0 headers while the lower end z68 boards usually do not (the gigabyte you were looking at does). Then again, I haven't looked at z68 prices in awhile, maybe there are some good discounts. Also, z68 boards required bios updates to handle ivy bridge (i5 or i7-3xxx series), whereas the z77 is the newer platform. But by this time they should have the new bios pre-installed already.

The graphics card should do fine - even boards with x8/x8 configuration actually mean x16 (second slot empty) or x8/x8, if I recall correctly. And in any case all PCI-e graphics cards should be compatible with any x16 or x8 slot.

Speaking of graphics card slots, that's the big difference between the motherboard I recommended & the one you were looking at. The gigabyte can install 2 video cards easily, where as the MSI z77-g43 can only easily handle one video card. Though the MSI z77-g45 is setup for 2 video cards if you wanted to prepare yourself for that in the future (something I generally don't recommend unless you're planning on multiple-monitor gaming). Other than the number of video cards involved, both ought to work fine, but the MSI board I originally recommended is cheaper.

If you were thinking of Crossfire/SLI in the future, you'd also want to pay more for a 650w or 750w power supply.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
June 20 2012 21:41 GMT
#22842
On June 21 2012 03:44 MisterFred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 02:59 Shauni wrote:
stop recommending seagate and wd hard drives. If you buy them, they obviously believe their practice is fine.


Is there something other than the usual business shenanigans I should know about? Unless they're buying some mineral from Charles Taylor II...


seagate and wd are working together at keeping the prices as high as possible, the Thailand flooding has not been relevant in months and we still see the same prices. Im just saying its better to wait, reuse your other hard drives or use an SSD meanwhile. I don't like the idea of giving money to corporations that advocate foul play...
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
June 20 2012 21:47 GMT
#22843
Oh that. Yeah. Thing is, sometimes when people have you over a barrel... they have you over a barrel. Not the worst mugging that'll happen this year (don't get me started on politics).
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
`Zapdos
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States935 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 22:00:52
June 20 2012 21:55 GMT
#22844
Hey guys, thinking of building my first cpu, i have about a $700 purse and here's what i've come up with. I just wanted your advice to see if this would all work together. My dad will help me build the computer and has a computer science degree so that part won't be a problem, he just won't help me look :[

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.954367 this is an Intel Core i5-2450P Sandy Bridge 3.2GHz (3.5GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623i52450P.

I like it because I have multiple video cards so the 2x pci expressx16 is pretty neat

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104262 This is kingston x 2x4gb of ram, I believe the pins match up to the motherboard.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148591 500gb harddrive with 7200rpm, I don't know if this is compatible with the motherboard or how to check so some help?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153 This is a cheap nice looking case, I don't really know the benefit of getting a nicer case.

I have my own 650w power system, OS and several Video cards, so aside from that is this a good build and am I missing anything? My main concern is playing SC2 at high or extra high settings and being able to dual monitor. Thanks for the help guys!
www.twitch.tv/thezapdos come watch me :]
Kurosaki
Profile Joined August 2008
United States158 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-21 21:48:27
June 20 2012 22:56 GMT
#22845
Edit: already bought what I wanted.
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
June 20 2012 22:59 GMT
#22846
On June 21 2012 06:55 `Zapdos wrote:
Hey guys, thinking of building my first cpu, i have about a $700 purse and here's what i've come up with. I just wanted your advice to see if this would all work together. My dad will help me build the computer and has a computer science degree so that part won't be a problem, he just won't help me look :[

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.954367 this is an Intel Core i5-2450P Sandy Bridge 3.2GHz (3.5GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623i52450P.

I like it because I have multiple video cards so the 2x pci expressx16 is pretty neat

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104262 This is kingston x 2x4gb of ram, I believe the pins match up to the motherboard.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148591 500gb harddrive with 7200rpm, I don't know if this is compatible with the motherboard or how to check so some help?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153 This is a cheap nice looking case, I don't really know the benefit of getting a nicer case.

I have my own 650w power system, OS and several Video cards, so aside from that is this a good build and am I missing anything? My main concern is playing SC2 at high or extra high settings and being able to dual monitor. Thanks for the help guys!


The case is fine.

The RAM is fine. But you can save $10 by getting this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422
They'll performt he same.

For the HDD, you can get this for cheaper right now:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

For the price of that CPU/Motherboard combo, you might as well get an i5 3570k.

Provided your Video Card is an HD 5770 / GTS 450 or better, it will play SC2 on the highest settings.
`Zapdos
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States935 Posts
June 20 2012 23:05 GMT
#22847
On June 21 2012 07:59 jacosajh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 06:55 `Zapdos wrote:
Hey guys, thinking of building my first cpu, i have about a $700 purse and here's what i've come up with. I just wanted your advice to see if this would all work together. My dad will help me build the computer and has a computer science degree so that part won't be a problem, he just won't help me look :[

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.954367 this is an Intel Core i5-2450P Sandy Bridge 3.2GHz (3.5GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623i52450P.

I like it because I have multiple video cards so the 2x pci expressx16 is pretty neat

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104262 This is kingston x 2x4gb of ram, I believe the pins match up to the motherboard.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148591 500gb harddrive with 7200rpm, I don't know if this is compatible with the motherboard or how to check so some help?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153 This is a cheap nice looking case, I don't really know the benefit of getting a nicer case.

I have my own 650w power system, OS and several Video cards, so aside from that is this a good build and am I missing anything? My main concern is playing SC2 at high or extra high settings and being able to dual monitor. Thanks for the help guys!


The case is fine.

The RAM is fine. But you can save $10 by getting this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422
They'll performt he same.

For the HDD, you can get this for cheaper right now:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

For the price of that CPU/Motherboard combo, you might as well get an i5 3570k.

Provided your Video Card is an HD 5770 / GTS 450 or better, it will play SC2 on the highest settings.


Thanks for your suggestions on the ram and hdd, but I'm curious, wouldn't the i5 3570k plus a motherboard be more expensive then the combo? What would be the benefit exactly?
www.twitch.tv/thezapdos come watch me :]
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
June 20 2012 23:49 GMT
#22848
Getting a motherboard like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157297

It would actually be cheaper.

There's not much info on the i5 2450p out there, but the i5 3570k performs better at stock-vs-stock. I would imagine it'd also overclock pretty beastly like the i5 2500k.
Gandalf
Profile Joined August 2004
Pakistan1905 Posts
June 21 2012 00:01 GMT
#22849
Whats a good PSU for an i5 2500 + gtx 670 based system? I'd like something reliable that protects against voltage fluctuations since those are somewhat common in my country.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
June 21 2012 00:24 GMT
#22850
It'd be easier to see a price list or website that shows what models are available rather than list all the potential good power supplies.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 21 2012 00:26 GMT
#22851
Get a UPS if you're worried about power issues...
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
June 21 2012 03:49 GMT
#22852
Just curious on how accurate coretemp is compared to speed fan. Coretemp is giving me temperatures of around 70 max on a new computer with stock heatsink while speedfan is showing temperatures around 40-50. Which is the accurate one ? o.o
BW -> League -> CSGO
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 21 2012 04:02 GMT
#22853
Speedfan generally isn't accurate.
OptimusYale
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)1005 Posts
June 21 2012 06:08 GMT
#22854
i5-3450 - http://blog.danawa.com/prod/?prod_c=1670618&cate_c1=861&cate_c2=873&cate_c3=959&cate_c4=&keyword=i5-3450

2x4gb 1600mhz ram ddr3 - http://blog.danawa.com/prod/?prod_c=1304396&cate_c1=861&cate_c2=874&cate_c3=11043&cate_c4=&keyword=ddr3

atx size case - http://blog.danawa.com/prod/?prod_c=1313963&cate_c1=861&cate_c2=879&cate_c3=990&cate_c4=&keyword=atx case

H77- http://blog.danawa.com/prod/?prod_c=1638849&cate_c1=861&cate_c2=875&cate_c3=968&cate_c4=&keyword=H77

550 watt power supply - http://blog.danawa.com/prod/?prod_c=1599354&cate_c1=861&cate_c2=880&cate_c3=997&cate_c4=&keyword=550w

60/64gb SSD http://blog.danawa.com/prod/?prod_c=1667897&cate_c1=861&cate_c2=32617&cate_c3=32623&cate_c4=&keyword=SSD

1tb hard drive - http://dmall.danawa.com/sale/saleView.php?nSaleSeq=3755634&nCateC1=861&nCateC2=877&nCateC3=977&nCateC4=0

How does that look folks? I'm waiting for the GTX660 so add that when I come to build...but does everything else look ok/good prices?
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
June 21 2012 06:27 GMT
#22855
Shitty case and psu it would seem

you would be better off with a Antec, Crosair , OCZ ZS/ZT

for the case, Bitfenix and Xigmatek make good cheap ones

also mobo seems a bit expensive, but that is maybe because i don't know the rates, but it's good
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
poundcakes
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway239 Posts
June 21 2012 07:09 GMT
#22856
XFX and Seasonic make quality PSUs as well,
The cur foretells the knell of parting day; The loafing herd winds slowly o'er the lea; The wise man homeward plods; I only stay to fiddle-faddle in a minor key.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
June 21 2012 07:26 GMT
#22857
not at low prices (well xfx relativly low)
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
June 21 2012 07:40 GMT
#22858
Hm, I have no idea who makes those Powerex and other local brand PSUs...in these situations, without good research you could pass up good deals on high quality products. A lot of times they're just selling trash and ripping people off though.

I can at least guarantee this is very good, at like 33% more cost though (Super Flower Golden Green Pro; yes wattage is more than enough):
http://blog.danawa.com/prod/?section_m=PC&prod_c=1500418&cate_c1=861&cate_c2=880&cate_c3=997&cate_c4=0

I didn't check all the prices on the other parts, but they generally make sense. The motherboard is a little expensive and the case looks a bit cheap and flimsy maybe.


You may be waiting for a while on a GTX 660.
anthony321
Profile Joined June 2012
United States13 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-21 12:34:50
June 21 2012 11:28 GMT
#22859
What is your budget?
2,000 dls or more if needed

What is your resolution?
1920 x 1080. And is the same for sc2

What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming and maybe for streaming later.

What is your upgrade cycle?

2+ years (depending if i have to upgrade something that is necesary)

When do you plan on building it?
Im going to newyork in August 15th (im from mexico)

Do you plan on overclocking?
i have a little idea of what it is, but i have no experience on it, and i dont know if i will need it.

Do you need an Operating System?
No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
I have no idea if i will need that for some games in the future, if theres a GPU that is really good i think i dont.
But if you think this is necesary to buy, i can buy it, how much can be the difference in price?


Where are you buying your parts from?
That is a good question, mexico is expensive and they dont have the latest parts that i could need.
I was thinking to buy it in www.newegg.com (the reason is because my sister lives in connecticut and they can order that stuff from that page) but if there is a store "connecticut or newyork" i will apreciate if someone tell me the name of the store and address, so when i get there i can buy it.

Here is what im planning to buy: (I dont know about computers, just basic basic stuff)

CPU

1.- Core i7 3960X LGA 2011
(I think is the most powerful processor) and i will be fine with that one for years, am i right?) Suggestions are welcome.

Motherboard

1.- I just have no idea wichone o should buy, I have seen a lot of them, and dont understand what each one does.
(I just want the one that support the procesor, and have a lot ports for usb)
(If there is and expensive one and is really necesary to buy for the future i can buy it)

I just dont want to have problems with my new comp. i really want a high quality in games (starcraft 2 and maybe in the future for some games that requires more "ram or more power on gpu")

RAM

1.- I have no idea wichone i should buy
(The one that gives the best performance for my comp)

GPU

1. I just noticed theres the new geforce GTX 690, ill get that one

PSU

1.- I think this one is important (but the question is wichone is good for my new comp?)
i dont know if the one that i have already still fine

Cooling stuffs (for gpu, processor and dont know what else)
i dont know about it, but if i need one tell me wichone is good to get.

Note: If i missed something importante you can tell me, like i said, i dont know about computers, just basic stuff.
Any recomendation are welcome

Thanks for your help



OptimusYale
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)1005 Posts
June 21 2012 11:55 GMT
#22860
On June 21 2012 15:08 OptimusYale wrote:
i5-3450 - http://blog.danawa.com/prod/?prod_c=1670618&cate_c1=861&cate_c2=873&cate_c3=959&cate_c4=&keyword=i5-3450

2x4gb 1600mhz ram ddr3 - http://blog.danawa.com/prod/?prod_c=1304396&cate_c1=861&cate_c2=874&cate_c3=11043&cate_c4=&keyword=ddr3

atx size case - http://blog.danawa.com/prod/?prod_c=1313963&cate_c1=861&cate_c2=879&cate_c3=990&cate_c4=&keyword=atx case

H77- http://blog.danawa.com/prod/?prod_c=1638849&cate_c1=861&cate_c2=875&cate_c3=968&cate_c4=&keyword=H77

550 watt power supply - http://blog.danawa.com/prod/?prod_c=1599354&cate_c1=861&cate_c2=880&cate_c3=997&cate_c4=&keyword=550w

60/64gb SSD http://blog.danawa.com/prod/?prod_c=1667897&cate_c1=861&cate_c2=32617&cate_c3=32623&cate_c4=&keyword=SSD

1tb hard drive - http://dmall.danawa.com/sale/saleView.php?nSaleSeq=3755634&nCateC1=861&nCateC2=877&nCateC3=977&nCateC4=0

How does that look folks? I'm waiting for the GTX660 so add that when I come to build...but does everything else look ok/good prices?



75 bucks pushes it a bit more than I can afford right now, though if its another month or 2 before the 660 comes out then hopefully other prices will drop.

http://blog.danawa.com/prod/?prod_c=1351116&cate_c1=861&cate_c2=880&cate_c3=997&cate_c4=&keyword=550w This is a good power supply right?


http://blog.danawa.com/prod/?prod_c=1631821&cate_c1=861&cate_c2=879&cate_c3=990&cate_c4=&keyword=Bitfenix and this case looks cool...bit more expensive.

If the GTX660 isn't released...whats a good card I can pick up for $200-250
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