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Zorgon
United States211 Posts
On June 19 2012 11:14 jacosajh wrote: You need to link the individual parts individually or save the cart to a wish list and make it public (this takes several days). It takes a couple days for the wishlist to become published, but you can link to it right away. Edit: Forgot to link to guide. | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
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OptimusYale
Korea (South)1005 Posts
I5 3570K 3.4ghz Corsair Xms3 16gb DDR3 1333 2TB Hard drive(probably western Digital) 60GM SSD (usualy around $80) Radeon HD 7770 1GB graphics card That lot comes to 650 bucks which gives me around 350 left to spend...what else do I need for a new build? | ||
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Payson
United States394 Posts
On June 19 2012 12:12 MisterFred wrote: @Payson. Are you interested in overclocking? What other games will you play? What is the resolution of your monitor? What else do you expect the computer to do? Essentially, the questions in the OP questionnaire. Mostly just Starcraft II. I don't have interest in overclocking it. I expect it to stream and play Starcraft II, as well as basic computer functions. Not looking to do anything insane with the computer. | ||
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findingthelimit
Hong Kong219 Posts
On June 19 2012 12:22 OptimusYale wrote: Ok so far I'm looking at buying this I5 3570K 3.4ghz Corsair Xms3 16gb DDR3 1333 2TB Hard drive(probably western Digital) 60GM SSD (usualy around $80) Radeon HD 7770 1GB graphics card That lot comes to 650 bucks which gives me around 350 left to spend...what else do I need for a new build? motherboard? power supply? optical drive i assume? | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
CPU: i7-3770k ($340) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=70540&vpn=BX80637I73770K&manufacture=Intel Currently back-ordered there, so it'll take a few extra days. I recommend the i7 because of your interest in streaming. An i5 is just as good for gaming, but for media production (streaming), the i7 has more oomph. I recommend the 'K' version because of the potential for overclocking in the future. Not that you'd have to start out overclocking, but you might want to a year or two down the road. If you're sure that will not be the case, get the i7-3770 (sans 'K') from the www.newegg.com for $320. If you're not serious about streaming, go with the i5. Edit: Also, if you're near a microcenter you can probably get the CPU for a nice discount. Motherboard: MSI z77-g43 ($105) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130646 A basic overclocking motherboard, again allowing you to perform a moderate overclock in the future if you feel like it. If you're sure that will never be the case, I recommend this motherboard: MSI h67-g43 ($80 - $20 rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130646 the H67 does not natively support the ivy bridge processors without a bios update, but boards purchased now should have already been updated CPU cooler: Intel stock cooler, unless you decide to overclock in the future. Then you'll need to buy one. RAM: 2x4gb 1600mhz ram ($43) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231542 GPU: Asus 6770 ($115 - $30 rebate) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=68749&vpn=EAH6770 DC SL/2DI/1GD5&manufacture=ASUS If it's mostly just SC2, this should run it on ultra just fine. Other Blizzard games like D3 should run on high or maxed graphics. Now other games... not so much. They'll play smoothly, but hard to run might only do so on low graphics settings. Assuming a 1920x1080 resolution monitor. The 6950 is extreme overkill for your purposes, so not much reason to spend that much. Also, this card is huge, taking up 3 motherboard slots. That shouldn't matter, however. Case: Bit Fenix Outlaw ($47) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63255&vpn=BFC-OLW-100-KKN1-RP&manufacture=BitFenix A decent budget case. Several others are possibilities, from the flashy Zalman z9 or z11, to the commonly recommended budget option, the HAF 912, to a more expensive quiet-oriented case like the Antec p280. Mostly your aesthetic preference, really. PSU: Antec Neo Eco 450C ($35) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60491&vpn=NEO-ECO450C&manufacture=Antec&promoid=1027 Decent quality, plenty of wattage for a 1-gpu system, good special. DVD-burner ($15) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151244 HDD: Seagate Barracuda 500gb ($65) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63468&vpn=ST500DM002&manufacture=Seagate&promoid=1027 If you want more space, there's plenty of options, even up 3TB for $177 (www.newegg.com). Total for the tower, non overclocking formation (i7-3770 & msi h67 from neweegg)- $670 AMIR Total, future overclocking potential - $735 AMIR No monitor, windows, other software, mouse or other peripherals included. Possible SSD addition (+$120) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60445&promoid=1027 SSDs are a great luxury item. Put your programs (not media) on them for zoom-zoom loading times. Not necessary, however. Of course there are plenty of other possible permutations, going to i5 if not serious about streaming (or are fine with low-med quality settings), getting a better video card for your secret FPS or Total War habit, whatever. But this is what looks like fits what you want it to do. P.S. Once you feel comfortable with the component list you go with, there's not a reason to wait to buy. Specials are ok right now, and the market doesn't look to change significantly soon. | ||
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OptimusYale
Korea (South)1005 Posts
On June 19 2012 13:18 findingthelimit wrote: motherboard? power supply? optical drive i assume? Any recommendations...I mean this is just the core of my upcoming build....still have nothing in concrete and this is also my first build ^^ What Mobo's are recommended? 600w powersupply enough or should I use less? Optical drives aren't added as I'm gonna try and snap that for free in the markets when I go to buy. | ||
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Morpheus.EU
Netherlands26 Posts
On June 18 2012 22:04 Morpheus.EU wrote: Allright, finally closing in on date I can build. I decided to go with about the minimum requirements for SC2, whilst being as fast as possible with internet and skype and other minor tasks. I will probably upgrade processor + MoBo in a year or 2 when I go to university. I will hopefully (and most likely) order in about a week time, maybe in a month. Not longer than that. Let's start with the build itself: https://www.4launch.nl/shop/winkelwagen/59238 I have a GT520 allready, so hopefully don't need a new videocard. I will upgrade it after the summer to be able to run new games (will buy 7200RPM HDD at that time as well) If I have the extra few bucks I'll buy the Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO (212+ is barely available in NL, will look for it though) So, my main questions to you guys are: -Is this a good build for the purposes stated above? (Will I be able to run SC2 fluently, albeit on low) -Is there any ATX motherboard for around 60 euro's with internal USB3.0 headers. I don't need them, but might in a couple of months and it would be a nice extra to have. Not willing to spend that much more on it though. 70 is prolly fine. -Will 64GB SSD be enough to install windows, SC2, skype and LoL? If not, will it be enough if I scrap LoL? Thanks a lot! Trying again  | ||
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Rollin
Australia1552 Posts
On June 18 2012 22:04 Morpheus.EU wrote: Allright, finally closing in on date I can build. I decided to go with about the minimum requirements for SC2, whilst being as fast as possible with internet and skype and other minor tasks. I will probably upgrade processor + MoBo in a year or 2 when I go to university. I will hopefully (and most likely) order in about a week time, maybe in a month. Not longer than that. Let's start with the build itself: https://www.4launch.nl/shop/winkelwagen/59238 I have a GT520 allready, so hopefully don't need a new videocard. I will upgrade it after the summer to be able to run new games (will buy 7200RPM HDD at that time as well) If I have the extra few bucks I'll buy the Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO (212+ is barely available in NL, will look for it though) So, my main questions to you guys are: -Is this a good build for the purposes stated above? (Will I be able to run SC2 fluently, albeit on low) -Is there any ATX motherboard for around 60 euro's with internal USB3.0 headers. I don't need them, but might in a couple of months and it would be a nice extra to have. Not willing to spend that much more on it though. 70 is prolly fine. -Will 64GB SSD be enough to install windows, SC2, skype and LoL? If not, will it be enough if I scrap LoL? Thanks a lot! - There is no reason to buy a cpu cooler with a locked cpu, gpu noise will be more pervasive anyway - 64GB is enough for windows + sc2 easily, I don't know how big LoL is but I doubt it is larger. With windows 7 + sc2 you'll have at least 15 GB free for LoL + other stuff anyway (I have a 64 gb ssd, I'd know). If I had to have just one disk, I'd stick with a harddrive though, 64gb is a very painful limit. - Pretty sure most h67 motherboards should have some 3rd party controller usb 3.0 support out of the back ports. | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
On June 19 2012 14:30 Morpheus.EU wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On June 18 2012 22:04 Morpheus.EU wrote: Allright, finally closing in on date I can build. I decided to go with about the minimum requirements for SC2, whilst being as fast as possible with internet and skype and other minor tasks. I will probably upgrade processor + MoBo in a year or 2 when I go to university. I will hopefully (and most likely) order in about a week time, maybe in a month. Not longer than that. Let's start with the build itself: https://www.4launch.nl/shop/winkelwagen/59238 I have a GT520 allready, so hopefully don't need a new videocard. I will upgrade it after the summer to be able to run new games (will buy 7200RPM HDD at that time as well) If I have the extra few bucks I'll buy the Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO (212+ is barely available in NL, will look for it though) So, my main questions to you guys are: -Is this a good build for the purposes stated above? (Will I be able to run SC2 fluently, albeit on low) -Is there any ATX motherboard for around 60 euro's with internal USB3.0 headers. I don't need them, but might in a couple of months and it would be a nice extra to have. Not willing to spend that much more on it though. 70 is prolly fine. -Will 64GB SSD be enough to install windows, SC2, skype and LoL? If not, will it be enough if I scrap LoL? Thanks a lot! Trying again A 64GB SSD is more than enough. I only only using ~50GB of space and I have W7, HoN, Skyrim, SC2 and LoL installed. The build you posted is good. | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
On June 19 2012 14:40 Rollin wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On June 18 2012 22:04 Morpheus.EU wrote: Allright, finally closing in on date I can build. I decided to go with about the minimum requirements for SC2, whilst being as fast as possible with internet and skype and other minor tasks. I will probably upgrade processor + MoBo in a year or 2 when I go to university. I will hopefully (and most likely) order in about a week time, maybe in a month. Not longer than that. Let's start with the build itself: https://www.4launch.nl/shop/winkelwagen/59238 I have a GT520 allready, so hopefully don't need a new videocard. I will upgrade it after the summer to be able to run new games (will buy 7200RPM HDD at that time as well) If I have the extra few bucks I'll buy the Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO (212+ is barely available in NL, will look for it though) So, my main questions to you guys are: -Is this a good build for the purposes stated above? (Will I be able to run SC2 fluently, albeit on low) -Is there any ATX motherboard for around 60 euro's with internal USB3.0 headers. I don't need them, but might in a couple of months and it would be a nice extra to have. Not willing to spend that much more on it though. 70 is prolly fine. -Will 64GB SSD be enough to install windows, SC2, skype and LoL? If not, will it be enough if I scrap LoL? Thanks a lot! - There is no reason to buy a cpu cooler with a locked cpu, gpu noise will be more pervasive anyway - 64GB is enough for windows + sc2 easily, I don't know how big LoL is but I doubt it is larger. With windows 7 + sc2 you'll have at least 15 GB free for LoL + other stuff anyway (I have a 64 gb ssd, I'd know). If I had to have just one disk, I'd stick with a harddrive though, 64gb is a very painful limit. - Pretty sure most h67 motherboards should have some 3rd party controller usb 3.0 support out of the back ports. The H61 motherboard he chose has 2x USB3.0 on the back I/O panel. The cheapest H67 ATX Motherboard also only has 2x USB3.0 on the back panel as well. It also had a 9pin (which is USB3.0 I believe) internal header. I'm not sure the extra 20euro for it is worth it though. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On June 19 2012 14:30 Morpheus.EU wrote: Allright, finally closing in on date I can build. I decided to go with about the minimum requirements for SC2, whilst being as fast as possible with internet and skype and other minor tasks. I will probably upgrade processor + MoBo in a year or 2 when I go to university. I will hopefully (and most likely) order in about a week time, maybe in a month. Not longer than that. Let's start with the build itself: https://www.4launch.nl/shop/winkelwagen/59238 I have a GT520 allready, so hopefully don't need a new videocard. I will upgrade it after the summer to be able to run new games (will buy 7200RPM HDD at that time as well) If I have the extra few bucks I'll buy the Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO (212+ is barely available in NL, will look for it though) So, my main questions to you guys are: -Is this a good build for the purposes stated above? (Will I be able to run SC2 fluently, albeit on low) -Is there any ATX motherboard for around 60 euro's with internal USB3.0 headers. I don't need them, but might in a couple of months and it would be a nice extra to have. Not willing to spend that much more on it though. 70 is prolly fine. -Will 64GB SSD be enough to install windows, SC2, skype and LoL? If not, will it be enough if I scrap LoL? Thanks a lot! A cheap B75 motherboard (well 6 euros more) like this has an internal USB3 header: https://www.4launch.nl/shop/winkelwagen/59238#p-4-productid-124602 If you want, you can save money by getting something cheaper than a CM Storm Enforcer. Even at around 40 euros there are reasonable options with a front USB3 port if you wanted that: https://www.4launch.nl/shop/winkelwagen/59238#p-4-productid-125309 Other than that, it looks okay. | ||
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Rollin
Australia1552 Posts
On June 19 2012 14:45 iTzSnypah wrote: The H61 motherboard he chose has 2x USB3.0 on the back I/O panel. The cheapest H67 ATX Motherboard also only has 2x USB3.0 on the back panel as well. It also had a 9pin (which is USB3.0 I believe) internal header. I'm not sure the extra 20euro for it is worth it though. Yeah when I wrote that for some reason I misread and thought he had already selected a h67, not h61. | ||
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On June 19 2012 15:07 wussleeQ wrote: Can anyone point me to a nice videocard for around $200 USD? My videocard broke after I bought it so I had to return it and decided to just look for something others recommend. Any help greatly appreciated! There's nothing much interesting around $200, just last-generation stuff actually. Maybe it's worth going to around $240 for an HD 7850. | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
On June 19 2012 15:07 wussleeQ wrote: Can anyone point me to a nice videocard for around $200 USD? My videocard broke after I bought it so I had to return it and decided to just look for something others recommend. Any help greatly appreciated! As Myrmidon said, not much giving great price/performance at $200. I'd recommend considering one of the following 3: 6870 for $170 -$30 rebate (and 2 free crappy games). I recommend this card, as it is within budget: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150521 570 for more than your budget ($260-$25 rebate) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=58573&vpn=012-P3-1571-KR&manufacture=eVGA&promoid=1027 also competing at roughly that price point is the 7850 ($247) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102986 BTW, for the more experienced members of the forum, would you prefer a 570 or a 7850, not taking into account price? For instance, these are pretty equal (247 vs 235 but AMIR). Anandtech bench is unclear - mild lead for the 570 but the 7850 might have more OC potential even without overvolting? | ||
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dlf
3 Posts
What is your budget? Within about 1600 American (though cheaper is better) - What is your resolution? @ first 1680 x 1050. Eventually HD - What are you using it for? Gaming, surfing the net, watching download videos, Folding@home - What is your upgrade cycle? Would like a REAL long 'cycle'. - When do you plan on building it? I'd hope to build something this year but I don't know when - Do you plan on overclocking? NO. No part will ever be overclocked - Do you need an Operating System? No. WIll run Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium or Ultimate (have both already) - Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No. - Where are you buying your parts from? Newegg, Microcenter (CPU, probably) & possibly NCIX. I want a good enough GPU to show 'here is somethings that console can not do" . . . . And my own bit (previous threads, on dozens of different sites) http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5267/68992427.jpg http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/9692/95936970.jpg | ||
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Rollin
Australia1552 Posts
On June 19 2012 17:22 dlf wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Doubtful i'll get any replies to this . . . . . What is your budget? Within about 1600 American (though cheaper is better) - What is your resolution? @ first 1680 x 1050. Eventually HD - What are you using it for? Gaming, surfing the net, watching download videos, Folding@home - What is your upgrade cycle? Would like a REAL long 'cycle'. - When do you plan on building it? I'd hope to build something this year but I don't know when - Do you plan on overclocking? NO. No part will ever be overclocked - Do you need an Operating System? No. WIll run Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium or Ultimate (have both already) - Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No. - Where are you buying your parts from? Newegg, Microcenter (CPU, probably) & possibly NCIX. I want a good enough GPU to show 'here is somethings that console can not do" . . . . And my own bit (previous threads, on dozens of different sites) http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5267/68992427.jpg http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/9692/95936970.jpg A few things: - z77 chipset is solely for overclocking. It's a waste of money, you can save $40+ here. - A 1920x1080 27" monitor has horrible pixel density. Not to mention a non-IPS monitor is going to be horrible at that size. There is a dedicated monitor thread for a reason. Even my 24" inch monitor has colour fade at the edges if you look at the centre, 27" is far worse. - That power supply costs about 2.5 times as much as you need for that build. A capstone 450w would be more efficient for the relatively low powered system you have. - If you want to throw money at a case, be my guest, but it probably will be no better than a few quality $60-$80 ones. - You don't need an aftermarket cooler if you aren't overclocking. Haven't I replied to you before? | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
On June 19 2012 17:36 Rollin wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On June 19 2012 17:22 dlf wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Doubtful i'll get any replies to this . . . . . What is your budget? Within about 1600 American (though cheaper is better) - What is your resolution? @ first 1680 x 1050. Eventually HD - What are you using it for? Gaming, surfing the net, watching download videos, Folding@home - What is your upgrade cycle? Would like a REAL long 'cycle'. - When do you plan on building it? I'd hope to build something this year but I don't know when - Do you plan on overclocking? NO. No part will ever be overclocked - Do you need an Operating System? No. WIll run Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium or Ultimate (have both already) - Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No. - Where are you buying your parts from? Newegg, Microcenter (CPU, probably) & possibly NCIX. I want a good enough GPU to show 'here is somethings that console can not do" . . . . And my own bit (previous threads, on dozens of different sites) http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5267/68992427.jpg http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/9692/95936970.jpg A few things: - z77 chipset is solely for overclocking. It's a waste of money, you can save $40+ here. - A 1920x1080 27" monitor has horrible pixel density. Not to mention a non-IPS monitor is going to be horrible at that size. There is a dedicated monitor thread for a reason. Even my 24" inch monitor has colour fade at the edges if you look at the centre, 27" is far worse. - That power supply costs about 2.5 times as much as you need for that build. A capstone 450w would be more efficient for the relatively low powered system you have. - If you want to throw money at a case, be my guest, but it probably will be no better than a few quality $60-$80 ones. - You don't need an aftermarket cooler if you aren't overclocking. Haven't I replied to you before? Z77 Motherboards are the only ones I can find that have eSATA on them that also have an UFEI Bios.. On June 19 2012 17:22 dlf wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Doubtful i'll get any replies to this . . . . . What is your budget? Within about 1600 American (though cheaper is better) - What is your resolution? @ first 1680 x 1050. Eventually HD - What are you using it for? Gaming, surfing the net, watching download videos, Folding@home - What is your upgrade cycle? Would like a REAL long 'cycle'. - When do you plan on building it? I'd hope to build something this year but I don't know when - Do you plan on overclocking? NO. No part will ever be overclocked - Do you need an Operating System? No. WIll run Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium or Ultimate (have both already) - Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No. - Where are you buying your parts from? Newegg, Microcenter (CPU, probably) & possibly NCIX. I want a good enough GPU to show 'here is somethings that console can not do" . . . . And my own bit (previous threads, on dozens of different sites) http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5267/68992427.jpg http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/9692/95936970.jpg How about mATX form factor? There is no real need for ATX anymore unless you are using PCI cards. Since your not overclocking there is no urgent need for an aftermarket HSF, however the cooler temps will probably increase CPU life by some amount. i5-3450 $149.99 @ Microcenter In-store Pickup ASUS P8Z77-M PRO mATX & Crucial M4 256Gb SATA III SSD $349.98 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.977427 Crucial Ballistix 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 1.5v $46.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148544 Cooler Master Hyper 212+ $29.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 EVGA GTX670 $399.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130782 Seagate Barracuda 2TB $119.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148834 Silverstone SST-PS07 mATX Mini Tower $78.99 ($68.99AMIR) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163186 DVD Burner $14.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151244 Rosewill Capstone 450-M Modular 80+ Gold PSU $79.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182261 nMEDIAPC All-in-One Card Reader 5.25" Bay $24.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820132021 Total: $1295.89 Your requirements were quite specific. | ||
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AgentComet
United States39 Posts
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