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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
TheMooseHeed
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom535 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 22:39:13
May 20 2012 22:38 GMT
#22081
The total cost of shiping for my whole build from them to England was 12.99 euros. hardwareversand that is
''Swarm hosts are the worst thing in the world, I mean terrorism is pretty bad but swarmhosts are worse'' IdrA on ZvZ
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 23:24:31
May 20 2012 23:07 GMT
#22082
Disallowing pictures made the site load ALOT faster.

ASRock H61M-HVS 43,99
http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/ASRock/H61M-HVS/1002409/?

Sapphire HD6850 119,99
http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/SAPPHIRE/HD6850_(11180-00-20R)/731578/?

Fractal Core 1000 34,99
http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Fractal_Design/Core_1000/866222/?

Crucial M4 64GB SSD 79,99
http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Crucial/CT064M4SSD1/970363/?

Corsair CX500v2 56,90
http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Corsair/CMPSU-500CXV2/884856/?

Other than that everything else is fine.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
Haine
Profile Joined May 2012
15 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 23:38:10
May 20 2012 23:27 GMT
#22083
On May 21 2012 08:07 iTzSnypah wrote:
Disallowing pictures made the site load ALOT faster.

ASRock H61M-HVS 43,99
http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/ASRock/H61M-HVS/1002409/?

Sapphire HD6850 119,99
http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/SAPPHIRE/HD6850_(11180-00-20R)/731578/?

Fractal Core 1000 34,99
http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Fractal_Design/Core_1000/866222/?

Crucial M4 64GB SSD 79,99
http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Crucial/CT064M4SSD1/970363/?

Corsair CX500v2 56,90
http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Corsair/CMPSU-500CXV2/884856/?

Corsair 8GB 1333 59,90
http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Corsair/8_GB_DDR3-1333/971985/?

Other than that everything else is fine.



Thanks alot for your time!
Would you care to elaborate on a few points? I'm also trying to learn so next time I know more stuff myself instead of always asking others to do work for me.

As for the brands (ASrock and Sapphire), I assume these are stable brands as well? Only reason I took Asus is the weak notification of a friend of mine that those never died on him.

Motherboard seems fine. I noticed this one has a graphics chip on it. Was I right in my assumption that strictly this is not necessary when you have a seperate graphics card?

Graphics card: I guess the 6870 is only slightly better than 6850, which does not justify the cost difference?

Anything special about this case that makes it better than the other? Aside from the few euros difference.

That RAM specifically says thats its suited for this mac crap. Is it still useable in a normal setup? Also, what is the difference with the one ~8 euros cheaper?
http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Corsair/8_GB_DDR3-1333/944716/?tk=8&lk=385
EDIT: It seemed like we were looking at notebook RAM. Not sure if that makes a difference. This looks similar for a desktop, so I assume this would be fine:
http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Corsair/8_GB_DDR3-1333/987925/?tk=7&lk=3326


As for the SSD, I dont really understand. Is it just that the one I pointed out looks sketchy? I'm guessing 64GB is enough when using it to boot stuff like OS? (I havent checked how much space windows 7 wants, like, ever). What also seems strange is that the one you pointed out claims to have a writing speed of 95 MB/sec, while the original claims 510 MB/sec. This sounds sketchy. What is more normal for SSD drives?
I know some people who bought SSD drives of 120GB at around 100 euro from that place last week or so. I will enquire them which one it was.

I will look into this more tomorrow. I really appreciate all the help I've gotten so far!
Galbwe
Profile Joined June 2011
United States13 Posts
May 20 2012 23:32 GMT
#22084
What is your budget?

$500-600

What is your resolution?

1920x1080

What are you using it for?

Mostly D3 and SC2 for now. I might try to push my luck with Skyrim. I'm not looking to stream or do any of the other fancy video editing stuff, just to run the games with medium-high settings.

What is your upgrade cycle?

I'd like it to last at least 2 years before an upgrade.

When do you plan on building it?

Within the next 2 weeks.

Do you plan on overclocking?

No.

Do you need an Operating System?

No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

No.

Where are you buying your parts from?

For now off of amazon unless I can find the same parts for less elsewhere.

I have to admit that this is my first time building a pc and I'm not totally sure that the parts I've chosen will work together well. This parts list is based off of the May 2012 budget build posted on newbcomputerbuild.com. One place in which I deviated from the posted build was the power supply, which I made 600W instead of the recommended 500W.

CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 Processor 3.3 GHz 3MB Cache Socket LGA1155 $124.98

mobo: ASUS P8H61-M LE/CSM Intel H61 Chipset DDR3 1333 Micro ATX Motherboard $70.99

graphics: PowerColor ATI Radeon HD6790 1 GB DDR5 DVI/HDMI/Mini DisplayPort PCI-Express Video Card AX6790 1GBD5-DH $139.98

RAM: Corsair 8 GB 1333mhz PC3-10666 240-pin Dual Channel DDR3 Memory Kit 8 Dual Channel Kit - CMV8GX3M2A1333C9 $41.99

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500 GB SATA III 7200 RPM 16 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive - WD5000AAKX $74.99

Power: Corsair Builder Series CX600 600 watt 80 Plus Certified Power Supply Compatible with Intel and AMD Platforms ATX 700 CMPSU-600CXV2 $68.99

Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B 24x SATA Internal DVD+/-RW Drive (Black) $21.21

Case: Lunaris ATX Mid Tower PC Computer Case, Black/Silver [INT-96-04S] $29.59

All prices are those currently posted on amazon.

Thank you for your advice.
"I believe time wounds all heels" ~ John Lennon
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
May 20 2012 23:47 GMT
#22085
On May 21 2012 08:27 Haine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 08:07 iTzSnypah wrote:
Disallowing pictures made the site load ALOT faster.

ASRock H61M-HVS 43,99
http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/ASRock/H61M-HVS/1002409/?

Sapphire HD6850 119,99
http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/SAPPHIRE/HD6850_(11180-00-20R)/731578/?

Fractal Core 1000 34,99
http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Fractal_Design/Core_1000/866222/?

Crucial M4 64GB SSD 79,99
http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Crucial/CT064M4SSD1/970363/?

Corsair CX500v2 56,90
http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Corsair/CMPSU-500CXV2/884856/?

Corsair 8GB 1333 59,90
http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Corsair/8_GB_DDR3-1333/971985/?

Other than that everything else is fine.



Thanks alot for your time!
Would you care to elaborate on a few points? I'm also trying to learn so next time I know more stuff myself instead of always asking others to do work for me.

As for the brands (ASrock and Sapphire), I assume these are stable brands as well? Only reason I took Asus is the weak notification of a friend of mine that those never died on him.

Motherboard seems fine. I noticed this one has a graphics chip on it. Was I right in my assumption that strictly this is not necessary when you have a seperate graphics card?

Graphics card: I guess the 6870 is only slightly better than 6850, which does not justify the cost difference?

Anything special about this case that makes it better than the other? Aside from the few euros difference.

That RAM specifically says thats its suited for this mac crap. Is it still useable in a normal setup? Also, what is the difference with the one ~8 euros cheaper?
http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Corsair/8_GB_DDR3-1333/944716/?tk=8&lk=385
EDIT: It seemed like we were looking at notebook RAM. Not sure if that makes a difference. This looks similar for a desktop, so I assume this would be fine:
http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Corsair/8_GB_DDR3-1333/987925/?tk=7&lk=3326


As for the SSD, I dont really understand. Is it just that the one I pointed out looks sketchy? I'm guessing 64GB is enough when using it to boot stuff like OS? (I havent checked how much space windows 7 wants, like, ever). What also seems strange is that the one you pointed out claims to have a writing speed of 95 MB/sec, while the original claims 510 MB/sec. This sounds sketchy. What is more normal for SSD drives?
I know some people who bought SSD drives of 120GB at around 100 euro from that place last week or so. I will enquire them which one it was.

I will look into this more tomorrow. I really appreciate all the help I've gotten so far!


The motherboard SUPPORTS Integrated graphics as in it has the dvi/dsub outputs however you won't use them since your using a discrete graphics card. Yeh 50euros more for 10% more performance isn't worth it. SSD's using the Sandforce controlers are know for BSOD's. Yeah the RAM u found is fine. Win7-64bit uses ~21GB of space.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
May 21 2012 00:27 GMT
#22086
On May 21 2012 08:32 Galbwe wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

What is your budget?

$500-600

What is your resolution?

1920x1080

What are you using it for?

Mostly D3 and SC2 for now. I might try to push my luck with Skyrim. I'm not looking to stream or do any of the other fancy video editing stuff, just to run the games with medium-high settings.

What is your upgrade cycle?

I'd like it to last at least 2 years before an upgrade.

When do you plan on building it?

Within the next 2 weeks.

Do you plan on overclocking?

No.

Do you need an Operating System?

No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

No.

Where are you buying your parts from?

For now off of amazon unless I can find the same parts for less elsewhere.

I have to admit that this is my first time building a pc and I'm not totally sure that the parts I've chosen will work together well. This parts list is based off of the May 2012 budget build posted on newbcomputerbuild.com. One place in which I deviated from the posted build was the power supply, which I made 600W instead of the recommended 500W.

CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 Processor 3.3 GHz 3MB Cache Socket LGA1155 $124.98

mobo: ASUS P8H61-M LE/CSM Intel H61 Chipset DDR3 1333 Micro ATX Motherboard $70.99

graphics: PowerColor ATI Radeon HD6790 1 GB DDR5 DVI/HDMI/Mini DisplayPort PCI-Express Video Card AX6790 1GBD5-DH $139.98

RAM: Corsair 8 GB 1333mhz PC3-10666 240-pin Dual Channel DDR3 Memory Kit 8 Dual Channel Kit - CMV8GX3M2A1333C9 $41.99

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500 GB SATA III 7200 RPM 16 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive - WD5000AAKX $74.99

Power: Corsair Builder Series CX600 600 watt 80 Plus Certified Power Supply Compatible with Intel and AMD Platforms ATX 700 CMPSU-600CXV2 $68.99

Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B 24x SATA Internal DVD+/-RW Drive (Black) $21.21

Case: Lunaris ATX Mid Tower PC Computer Case, Black/Silver [INT-96-04S] $29.59

All prices are those currently posted on amazon.

Thank you for your advice.

How about NEWEGG? They are usually cheaper. Any Single GPU Computer build needs only a quality 400-450w PSU.

i3-2120 & ECS H61 mATX $162.98 ($132.98AMIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.915554

Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 8GB (2x4GB) 1333 $42.99
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226095

Rosewill CAPSTONE 450w 80+ Gold $64.99
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

MSI N560GTX $189.99 ($149.99AMIR) Free NBA2K11 Coupon
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127592

Rosewill RANGER mATX Mini Tower Case $39.99 $15 off w/ promo code EMCNEJB69, ends 5/20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147122

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA III & DVD Burner $78.98
www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.936994

Total: $579.92 ($494.92AMIR and Code)
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
STYDawn
Profile Joined December 2011
137 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 01:07:34
May 21 2012 01:04 GMT
#22087
It turned out to be the motherboard after all. After just going out and buying a motherboard from microcenter, I now have a working computer! :D

But i dont know what to do with a replacement motherboard that the manufacturer will be sending me.... Any advice?

Also, i have 1600 RAM, it has default as 1378Mhz, the next target level the bios will let me run at is 1648 mhz. @.@
Pokemonxoxo
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States217 Posts
May 21 2012 03:02 GMT
#22088
Hey guys I'm helping my cousin build a new computer. I was wondering if you guys can help me out with some of the parts. This computer would be for using programs such as google sketchup, AutoCAD, and possibly Photoshop. She is hoping to use this for her interior design projects and stuff of the like. She is not a gamer at all.

What is your budget?
<$1000

What is your resolution?
She will need a new monitor, perferably a resolution of 1920x1080P. This is a part of the budget of $1000 dollars.

When do you plan on building it?
Within a week.

Do you plan on overclocking?
Nope.

Do you need an Operating System?
Nope.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Nope.

Where are you buying the parts from?
Any sites in the US such as Amazon, Newegg, TigerDirect, and NCiX.


Within and Without
AJCpar
Profile Joined February 2012
United States32 Posts
May 21 2012 03:53 GMT
#22089
Hey guys! I've got just a small question about getting a CPU cooler. I'm building a computer and am having a little trouble choosing a CPU cooler. I'm going to be running an i5 3570K processor, and I may be OCing it in the future, but I've heard that the Ivy Bridge runs very hot and it's not very good to OC.

So here are the coolers.
First, the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO fan:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099

And then, the Corsair Hydro Series H60 with a Push-Pull double 120mm fan configuration.
http://www.corsair.com/hydro-series-h60-cpu-cooler.html
I can get the Hyper 212 fan for $5 less than the H60, so I was wondering if it was worth the additional $5 to get the cooler. Thanks!
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
May 21 2012 04:19 GMT
#22090
I've become sick and tired of my current rig so I'm going to upgrade. Currently my processor is bottlenecking me badly, 3800 x2 2ghz, but my card is a ati 4850 so it will work fine for what I need it for (all i want is good fps in late game 1v1 sc2 games on absolute lowest settings.)

Can someone reccomend some cheap parts for my new build? I could probably keep my case, gpu, and psu, but would need a new Mobo, processor, and ram (only have 2.5 atm) and am not very tech savy so I don't know how to mix and match cpus with mobo's.
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 04:35:28
May 21 2012 04:23 GMT
#22091
On May 21 2012 12:53 AJCpar wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Hey guys! I've got just a small question about getting a CPU cooler. I'm building a computer and am having a little trouble choosing a CPU cooler. I'm going to be running an i5 3570K processor, and I may be OCing it in the future, but I've heard that the Ivy Bridge runs very hot and it's not very good to OC.

So here are the coolers.
First, the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO fan:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099

And then, the Corsair Hydro Series H60 with a Push-Pull double 120mm fan configuration.
http://www.corsair.com/hydro-series-h60-cpu-cooler.html
I can get the Hyper 212 fan for $5 less than the H60, so I was wondering if it was worth the additional $5 to get the cooler. Thanks!

I would stay away from a shitty closed loop cooler. If you want water cooling, then you should build your own custom loop (that way you can actually cool your graphics card(s) as well). Crappy water cooling options are not quieter, more efficient or easier to install than similarly priced air cooling options, so stick with the 212 EVO.

On May 21 2012 13:19 xrapture wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

I've become sick and tired of my current rig so I'm going to upgrade. Currently my processor is bottlenecking me badly, 3800 x2 2ghz, but my card is a ati 4850 so it will work fine for what I need it for (all i want is good fps in late game 1v1 sc2 games on absolute lowest settings.)

Can someone reccomend some cheap parts for my new build? I could probably keep my case, gpu, and psu, but would need a new Mobo, processor, and ram (only have 2.5 atm) and am not very tech savy so I don't know how to mix and match cpus with mobo's.

Try this:
Pentium g620 ($70)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116399
H61 mobo ($60)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128539
4 GB ddr3 RAM ($20)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231421

No other new components should be needed, just make sure your optical drives and such aren't IDE, as sata is the new standard.
Throw off those chains of reason, and your prison disappears. | Check your posting frequency timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/post_activity_img.php
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
May 21 2012 04:28 GMT
#22092
On May 21 2012 12:02 Pokemonxoxo wrote:
Hey guys I'm helping my cousin build a new computer. I was wondering if you guys can help me out with some of the parts. This computer would be for using programs such as google sketchup, AutoCAD, and possibly Photoshop. She is hoping to use this for her interior design projects and stuff of the like. She is not a gamer at all.

+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?
<$1000

What is your resolution?
She will need a new monitor, perferably a resolution of 1920x1080P. This is a part of the budget of $1000 dollars.

When do you plan on building it?
Within a week.

Do you plan on overclocking?
Nope.

Do you need an Operating System?
Nope.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Nope.

Where are you buying the parts from?
Any sites in the US such as Amazon, Newegg, TigerDirect, and NCiX.



Core i5-3550
AsRock B75 Pro3 - total $280
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.909999

AMD FirePro V3900 - $118
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814195112

Team 2 x 4GB 1600MHz DDR3 RAM - $41
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313255

Crucial M4 128GB - $125
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148529

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB
Lite-On CD / DVD burner - total $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.936987

Fractal Design Core 1000 - $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352009

Seasonic SS-300ET - $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151086

Dell Ultrasharp U2212HM - $220 (from Dell, with warranty)
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=04&l=en&sku=320-2736
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
May 21 2012 04:42 GMT
#22093
On May 21 2012 13:28 Myrmidon wrote:
AMD FirePro V3900 - $118
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814195112

Out of curiosity, how is this different from say a similarly priced 6770? I thought that workstation oriented graphics cards tended to have more vram, but this has 1GB, which is pretty standard as a baseline these days. Surely a much cheaper card would offer the same performance, or a similarly priced mainstream card like the 6770 would be better performance?

I'm not questioning you, as I know you would have a good reason for choosing it, I would just like to know why .
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iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
May 21 2012 04:43 GMT
#22094
On May 21 2012 12:53 AJCpar wrote:
Hey guys! I've got just a small question about getting a CPU cooler. I'm building a computer and am having a little trouble choosing a CPU cooler. I'm going to be running an i5 3570K processor, and I may be OCing it in the future, but I've heard that the Ivy Bridge runs very hot and it's not very good to OC.

So here are the coolers.
First, the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO fan:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099

And then, the Corsair Hydro Series H60 with a Push-Pull double 120mm fan configuration.
http://www.corsair.com/hydro-series-h60-cpu-cooler.html
I can get the Hyper 212 fan for $5 less than the H60, so I was wondering if it was worth the additional $5 to get the cooler. Thanks!


Just get a Cooler Master Hyper 212+ for 19.99AMIR.

Using a self enclosed liquid cpu cooler is kind of pointless. Anandtech only got an extra 200mhz (4.7ghz) using the Intel all-in-one liquid cooler on an i7-3770k because to be stable at that clock you have to run up the volts and that fucks over your temps.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5763/undervolting-and-overclocking-on-ivy-bridge
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colblitz
Profile Joined June 2011
United States41 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 04:57:05
May 21 2012 04:48 GMT
#22095
Hey guys, I'm looking for a build for a casual gamer (main games are SC2, Deus Ex) , who mostly browses the web with a lot of tabs open (generally floats 80-100 tabs o.O). She also does a bit of photoshop/CAD work. mATX if possible would be nice.

I saw the build that iTzSnypah posted above (spoilered below), with the i3-2120/MSI N560GTX combo. I don't think I need that good of a GPU - if I wanted to shift some of the budget from the GPU to the processor what would I be looking at? (Or would this combo be fine for the above use?)

On May 21 2012 09:27 iTzSnypah wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On May 21 2012 08:32 Galbwe wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

What is your budget?

$500-600

What is your resolution?

1920x1080

What are you using it for?

Mostly D3 and SC2 for now. I might try to push my luck with Skyrim. I'm not looking to stream or do any of the other fancy video editing stuff, just to run the games with medium-high settings.

What is your upgrade cycle?

I'd like it to last at least 2 years before an upgrade.

When do you plan on building it?

Within the next 2 weeks.

Do you plan on overclocking?

No.

Do you need an Operating System?

No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

No.

Where are you buying your parts from?

For now off of amazon unless I can find the same parts for less elsewhere.

I have to admit that this is my first time building a pc and I'm not totally sure that the parts I've chosen will work together well. This parts list is based off of the May 2012 budget build posted on newbcomputerbuild.com. One place in which I deviated from the posted build was the power supply, which I made 600W instead of the recommended 500W.

CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 Processor 3.3 GHz 3MB Cache Socket LGA1155 $124.98

mobo: ASUS P8H61-M LE/CSM Intel H61 Chipset DDR3 1333 Micro ATX Motherboard $70.99

graphics: PowerColor ATI Radeon HD6790 1 GB DDR5 DVI/HDMI/Mini DisplayPort PCI-Express Video Card AX6790 1GBD5-DH $139.98

RAM: Corsair 8 GB 1333mhz PC3-10666 240-pin Dual Channel DDR3 Memory Kit 8 Dual Channel Kit - CMV8GX3M2A1333C9 $41.99

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500 GB SATA III 7200 RPM 16 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive - WD5000AAKX $74.99

Power: Corsair Builder Series CX600 600 watt 80 Plus Certified Power Supply Compatible with Intel and AMD Platforms ATX 700 CMPSU-600CXV2 $68.99

Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B 24x SATA Internal DVD+/-RW Drive (Black) $21.21

Case: Lunaris ATX Mid Tower PC Computer Case, Black/Silver [INT-96-04S] $29.59

All prices are those currently posted on amazon.

Thank you for your advice.

How about NEWEGG? They are usually cheaper. Any Single GPU Computer build needs only a quality 400-450w PSU.

i3-2120 & ECS H61 mATX $162.98 ($132.98AMIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.915554

Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 8GB (2x4GB) 1333 $42.99
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226095

Rosewill CAPSTONE 450w 80+ Gold $64.99
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

MSI N560GTX $189.99 ($149.99AMIR) Free NBA2K11 Coupon
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127592

Rosewill RANGER mATX Mini Tower Case $39.99 $15 off w/ promo code EMCNEJB69, ends 5/20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147122

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA III & DVD Burner $78.98
www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.936994

Total: $579.92 ($494.92AMIR and Code)


For general reference about the build,


What is your budget?
500 (already have hard drives and monitors)

What is your resolution?
Dual 1920x1080

When do you plan on building it?
ASAP

What is your upgrade cycle?
2-3 years

Do you plan on overclocking?
Nope.

Do you need an Operating System?
Nope.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Nope.

Where are you buying the parts from?
Probably Newegg, but any US sites like Amazon/TigerDirect work as well


Thanks so much!
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
May 21 2012 04:57 GMT
#22096
On May 21 2012 13:19 xrapture wrote:
I've become sick and tired of my current rig so I'm going to upgrade. Currently my processor is bottlenecking me badly, 3800 x2 2ghz, but my card is a ati 4850 so it will work fine for what I need it for (all i want is good fps in late game 1v1 sc2 games on absolute lowest settings.)

Can someone reccomend some cheap parts for my new build? I could probably keep my case, gpu, and psu, but would need a new Mobo, processor, and ram (only have 2.5 atm) and am not very tech savy so I don't know how to mix and match cpus with mobo's.


Get these (absolute cheapest):

Intel G620 & ECS H61 mATX $109.98 ($79.98AMIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.915538

Pareema 4GB (2x2GB) 1333 DDR3 $20.99
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576003

Total: $130.97 ($100.97AMIR)

Or if your willing to spend a little more:

Intel i3-2100 & ECS H61 mATX $159.98 (129.98AMIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.915534

Pareema 4GB (2x2GB) 1333 DDR3 $20.99
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576003

Total: $180.97 ($150.97AMIR)
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Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 06:30:09
May 21 2012 04:59 GMT
#22097
On May 21 2012 13:48 colblitz wrote:
Hey guys, I'm looking for a build for a casual gamer (main games are SC2, Deus Ex) , who mostly browses the web with a lot of tabs open (generally floats 80-100 tabs o.O). She also does a bit of photoshop/CAD work. mATX if possible would be nice.

I saw the build that iTzSnypah posted above (spoilered below), with the i3-2120/MSI N560GTX combo. I don't think I need that good of a GPU - if I wanted to shift some of the budget from the GPU to the processor what would I be looking at? (Or would this combo be fine for the above use?)

There really isn't a reasonable upgrade for the cpu in that budget. It's unlikely she'll use more than 2 loaded threads, and increasing lightly threaded performance requires overclocking an unlocked cpu basically. I guess you could get a p67 and do a 400 MHz overclock (limited multiplier lock) on the i3-2120, but the performance gain would be minimal at best. Just save the extra money if you get a cheaper card .

EDIT:
On May 21 2012 13:57 iTzSnypah wrote:
Intel G620 & ECS H61 mATX $109.98 ($79.98AMIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.915538

Where'd you find that O_0. I spent a while looking for cheap combo deals and found none with 1155 pentiums.
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colblitz
Profile Joined June 2011
United States41 Posts
May 21 2012 05:08 GMT
#22098
On May 21 2012 13:59 Rollin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 13:48 colblitz wrote:
Hey guys, I'm looking for a build for a casual gamer (main games are SC2, Deus Ex) , who mostly browses the web with a lot of tabs open (generally floats 80-100 tabs o.O). She also does a bit of photoshop/CAD work. mATX if possible would be nice.

I saw the build that iTzSnypah posted above (spoilered below), with the i3-2120/MSI N560GTX combo. I don't think I need that good of a GPU - if I wanted to shift some of the budget from the GPU to the processor what would I be looking at? (Or would this combo be fine for the above use?)

There really isn't a reasonable upgrade for the cpu in that budget. It's unlikely she'll use more than 2 loaded threads, and increasing lightly threaded performance requires overclocking an unlocked cpu basically. I guess you could get a p67 and do a 400 MHz overclock (limited multiplier lock) on the i3-2120, but the performance gain would be minimal at best. Just save the extra money if you get a cheaper card .


Thanks for the advice Rollin - any suggestions on what that cheaper card would be?
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 05:19:47
May 21 2012 05:15 GMT
#22099
On May 21 2012 14:08 colblitz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 13:59 Rollin wrote:
On May 21 2012 13:48 colblitz wrote:
Hey guys, I'm looking for a build for a casual gamer (main games are SC2, Deus Ex) , who mostly browses the web with a lot of tabs open (generally floats 80-100 tabs o.O). She also does a bit of photoshop/CAD work. mATX if possible would be nice.

I saw the build that iTzSnypah posted above (spoilered below), with the i3-2120/MSI N560GTX combo. I don't think I need that good of a GPU - if I wanted to shift some of the budget from the GPU to the processor what would I be looking at? (Or would this combo be fine for the above use?)

There really isn't a reasonable upgrade for the cpu in that budget. It's unlikely she'll use more than 2 loaded threads, and increasing lightly threaded performance requires overclocking an unlocked cpu basically. I guess you could get a p67 and do a 400 MHz overclock (limited multiplier lock) on the i3-2120, but the performance gain would be minimal at best. Just save the extra money if you get a cheaper card .


Thanks for the advice Rollin - any suggestions on what that cheaper card would be?

Gtx 460, HD 6850 or a HD 6770 probably. Below that the price/performance ratio starts to go shitty.

460 $140:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127646

6850 $140:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131374

6770 $110 ($90 AMIR):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150540

Relevant benchmarks:
6850 vs 460:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/542?vs=539

Actually I don't have a 6770 benchmark. It's basically almost able to hold 60fps in sc2 on ultra.
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iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
May 21 2012 05:35 GMT
#22100
On May 21 2012 13:48 colblitz wrote:
Hey guys, I'm looking for a build for a casual gamer (main games are SC2, Deus Ex) , who mostly browses the web with a lot of tabs open (generally floats 80-100 tabs o.O). She also does a bit of photoshop/CAD work. mATX if possible would be nice.

I saw the build that iTzSnypah posted above (spoilered below), with the i3-2120/MSI N560GTX combo. I don't think I need that good of a GPU - if I wanted to shift some of the budget from the GPU to the processor what would I be looking at? (Or would this combo be fine for the above use?)

Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 09:27 iTzSnypah wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On May 21 2012 08:32 Galbwe wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

What is your budget?

$500-600

What is your resolution?

1920x1080

What are you using it for?

Mostly D3 and SC2 for now. I might try to push my luck with Skyrim. I'm not looking to stream or do any of the other fancy video editing stuff, just to run the games with medium-high settings.

What is your upgrade cycle?

I'd like it to last at least 2 years before an upgrade.

When do you plan on building it?

Within the next 2 weeks.

Do you plan on overclocking?

No.

Do you need an Operating System?

No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

No.

Where are you buying your parts from?

For now off of amazon unless I can find the same parts for less elsewhere.

I have to admit that this is my first time building a pc and I'm not totally sure that the parts I've chosen will work together well. This parts list is based off of the May 2012 budget build posted on newbcomputerbuild.com. One place in which I deviated from the posted build was the power supply, which I made 600W instead of the recommended 500W.

CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 Processor 3.3 GHz 3MB Cache Socket LGA1155 $124.98

mobo: ASUS P8H61-M LE/CSM Intel H61 Chipset DDR3 1333 Micro ATX Motherboard $70.99

graphics: PowerColor ATI Radeon HD6790 1 GB DDR5 DVI/HDMI/Mini DisplayPort PCI-Express Video Card AX6790 1GBD5-DH $139.98

RAM: Corsair 8 GB 1333mhz PC3-10666 240-pin Dual Channel DDR3 Memory Kit 8 Dual Channel Kit - CMV8GX3M2A1333C9 $41.99

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500 GB SATA III 7200 RPM 16 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive - WD5000AAKX $74.99

Power: Corsair Builder Series CX600 600 watt 80 Plus Certified Power Supply Compatible with Intel and AMD Platforms ATX 700 CMPSU-600CXV2 $68.99

Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B 24x SATA Internal DVD+/-RW Drive (Black) $21.21

Case: Lunaris ATX Mid Tower PC Computer Case, Black/Silver [INT-96-04S] $29.59

All prices are those currently posted on amazon.

Thank you for your advice.

How about NEWEGG? They are usually cheaper. Any Single GPU Computer build needs only a quality 400-450w PSU.

i3-2120 & ECS H61 mATX $162.98 ($132.98AMIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.915554

Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 8GB (2x4GB) 1333 $42.99
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226095

Rosewill CAPSTONE 450w 80+ Gold $64.99
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

MSI N560GTX $189.99 ($149.99AMIR) Free NBA2K11 Coupon
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127592

Rosewill RANGER mATX Mini Tower Case $39.99 $15 off w/ promo code EMCNEJB69, ends 5/20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147122

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA III & DVD Burner $78.98
www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.936994

Total: $579.92 ($494.92AMIR and Code)


For general reference about the build,


What is your budget?
500 (already have hard drives and monitors)

What is your resolution?
Dual 1920x1080

When do you plan on building it?
ASAP

What is your upgrade cycle?
2-3 years

Do you plan on overclocking?
Nope.

Do you need an Operating System?
Nope.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Nope.

Where are you buying the parts from?
Probably Newegg, but any US sites like Amazon/TigerDirect work as well


Thanks so much!

Your wish is my command. Off to newegg I GO ASEARCHING!

Here's what I found:

i5-3450 & BIOSTAR H77MU3 mATX $264.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.908588

MSI N460GTX $139.99 ($99.99AMIR) FREE NBA2K11 Coupon
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127646

Pareema 4GB (2x2GB) 1333 DDR3 $20.99
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576003

Corsair CX430 80+ $44.99 ($24.99AMIR)
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026

Samsung DVD Burner $16.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151244

Total: $487.94 ($427.94AMIR)

I left out a case as I can't find one I would buy in mATX mid/mini Tower. If you/she just doesn't care then this one will work.

Rosewill Ranger mATX $39.99 $15 off w/ promo code EMCNEJB69, ends 5/20
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147122

For a Grand total of: $527.93 ($452.93AMIR)
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