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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
On May 21 2012 14:08 colblitz wrote: Thanks for the advice Rollin - any suggestions on what that cheaper card would be? The i3-2130 DOESNT HAVE TURBO BOOST SO YOU CANT DO A 400 MHZ OC. (caps for EXPRESSION lol) | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On May 21 2012 13:42 Rollin wrote: Out of curiosity, how is this different from say a similarly priced 6770? I thought that workstation oriented graphics cards tended to have more vram, but this has 1GB, which is pretty standard as a baseline these days. Surely a much cheaper card would offer the same performance, or a similarly priced mainstream card like the 6770 would be better performance? I'm not questioning you, as I know you would have a good reason for choosing it, I would just like to know why  .The hardware for the FirePro V3900 is the same as a HD 6570. The difference is just in drivers. Actually, whether or not it's worth it really depends on the type of usage, so maybe it's not the best choice. It's just an idea. But for performance figures, see here, for example (benches here also show HD 7750, which is fairly close to HD 6770): http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/firepro-v3900-review-benchmark,3153.html Yes, the drivers much more than make up for the difference in the hardware. | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
On May 21 2012 13:59 Rollin wrote: There really isn't a reasonable upgrade for the cpu in that budget. It's unlikely she'll use more than 2 loaded threads, and increasing lightly threaded performance requires overclocking an unlocked cpu basically. I guess you could get a p67 and do a 400 MHz overclock (limited multiplier lock) on the i3-2120, but the performance gain would be minimal at best. Just save the extra money if you get a cheaper card .EDIT: Where'd you find that O_0. I spent a while looking for cheap combo deals and found none with 1155 pentiums. go to newegg -> hit shop all stores -> hit more -> hit combo deals. In another tab to go to newegg -> find CPU's detail page -> find item number (N82E168XXXXXXX) -> highlight and copy To back to first tab -> paste item number into search by item number -> hit search -> profit. | ||
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Rollin
Australia1552 Posts
On May 21 2012 14:39 Myrmidon wrote: Ahh, righto!The hardware for the FirePro V3900 is the same as a HD 6570. The difference is just in drivers. Actually, whether or not it's worth it really depends on the type of usage, so maybe it's not the best choice. It's just an idea. But for performance figures, see here, for example (benches here also show HD 7750, which is fairly close to HD 6770): http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/firepro-v3900-review-benchmark,3153.html Yes, the drivers much more than make up for the difference in the hardware. On May 21 2012 14:41 iTzSnypah wrote: Thanks, I was just looking through the generic cpu+mobo combos and was wondering why there weren't any cheap pentium ones go to newegg -> hit shop all stores -> hit more -> hit combo deals. In another tab to go to newegg -> find CPU's detail page -> find item number (N82E168XXXXXXX) -> highlight and copy To back to first tab -> paste item number into search by item number -> hit search -> profit.  . They sure could make that website more user friendly (newegg)... | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
On May 21 2012 15:28 Rollin wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On May 21 2012 14:39 Myrmidon wrote: Ahh, righto!The hardware for the FirePro V3900 is the same as a HD 6570. The difference is just in drivers. Actually, whether or not it's worth it really depends on the type of usage, so maybe it's not the best choice. It's just an idea. But for performance figures, see here, for example (benches here also show HD 7750, which is fairly close to HD 6770): http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/firepro-v3900-review-benchmark,3153.html Yes, the drivers much more than make up for the difference in the hardware. On May 21 2012 14:41 iTzSnypah wrote: go to newegg -> hit shop all stores -> hit more -> hit combo deals. In another tab to go to newegg -> find CPU's detail page -> find item number (N82E168XXXXXXX) -> highlight and copy To back to first tab -> paste item number into search by item number -> hit search -> profit. . They sure could make that website more user friendly (newegg)...Yes but then they would make less money. After I found that combo deals searcher I was amazed at how much money they are throwing at you with all the savings. | ||
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Stiluz
Norway688 Posts
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
Edit: You seem to be forgetting a heatsink for the CPU. I'm assuming you want to overclock. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
MoBo: ASUS Maximus IV GENE-Z/GEN3 - mATX CPU: Intel Core i7-2600 3,4GHz RAM: 2x Kingston HyperX 2048MB DDR3 PC3-12800 1600MHz GPU: Asus GeForce GTS 450 DirectCU SILENT 1GB PSU: Corsair PSU 600W Gaming series 80+ Case: Lian Li PC-V354B Minitower mATX SSD: Kingston 120GB HyperX 3K SSD SATA3 2,5" HDD: Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB Any tips or opinions are greatly appreciated. | ||
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Stiluz
Norway688 Posts
On May 21 2012 22:33 Womwomwom wrote: That system looks fine but what website is that? Edit: You seem to be forgetting a heatsink for the CPU. I'm assuming you want to overclock. Hey, it's a Norwegian site called Dustin Home. The CPU includes a fan, I don't have any plans to overclock. | ||
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
As a side note: if you think the retailer is trustworthy/willing to answer questions honestly, you can try swapping that Dell Ultrasharp for an Eizo EV2335 that has been used as demo stock. The main difference will be an additional 2 years of warranty as well as lighter antiglare coating. On May 21 2012 23:01 Forumite wrote: I´m thinking about building a new computer, a smaller mid-level gaming computer that is easy to move around. The focus is on RAM, HD and cooling, rather than graphics. A rough draft of the build is below. MoBo: ASUS Maximus IV GENE-Z/GEN3 - mATX CPU: Intel Core i7-2600 3,4GHz RAM: 2x Kingston HyperX 2048MB DDR3 PC3-12800 1600MHz GPU: Asus GeForce GTS 450 DirectCU SILENT 1GB PSU: Corsair PSU 600W Gaming series 80+ Case: Lian Li PC-V354B Minitower mATX SSD: Kingston 120GB HyperX 3K SSD SATA3 2,5" HDD: Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB Any tips or opinions are greatly appreciated. Shift the budget away from the horribly expensive motherboard and either upgrade that GPU to something a little better or pocket the change. I think I get what you're trying to achieve (trying to make a small, light, quiet, and fairly competent PC system) but that Asus ROG motherboard is going to be a waste of cash if you're not going to overclock or use SLI/Crossfire. Any low end H61/H77 board can handle the system you have right now and perform just as well. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
You may also want to consider Ivy Bridge instead, maybe a passive HD 7750 rather than the GTS 450 DirectCU Silent (which runs at a lower clock speed, uses DDR3, so it's slower than most GTS 450, and still uses more power than the 7750), maybe a different SSD and RAM if the RAM isn't priced well. What's available other than Corsair GS600? There may be something quieter and/or cheaper of decent quality. It's not like you need anything close to 600W, and Corsair is often overpriced. | ||
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Stiluz
Norway688 Posts
On May 22 2012 00:01 Womwomwom wrote: If you don't want to overclock, you can downgrade the motherboard and processor. Any cheap H77 board and processor will work just as well. As a side note: if you think the retailer is trustworthy/willing to answer questions honestly, you can try swapping that Dell Ultrasharp for an Eizo EV2335 that has been used as demo stock. The main difference will be an additional 2 years of warranty as well as lighter antiglare coating. Thank you, that's a good point. I might be able to shave off 400-500,- more from the cheaper MB/CPU. Not sure about buying demo-stuff though. | ||
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nosliw
United States2716 Posts
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Shauni
4077 Posts
On May 22 2012 02:21 nosliw wrote: Sorry I am new here, but I noticed everyone who is building a desktop is only considering intel cpus. Are AMD's that far behind? They recently lauched AMD Trinity. Any thoughts on that? Trinity might become decent value/performance for laptops. Desktop no, unless you're building some kind of HTPC without a discrete graphics card. Intel are so far ahead in single core IPC, AMD hasn't really improved much from the Athlon 64 days. A Kentsfield (6 generations old Intel CPU) is fairly equal to Bulldozer in IPC. Unfortunately that's how far behind AMD are, not to mention the drastically higher watt consumption. Phenom II might still be considered advantageous to the sandy bridge i3, as a budget alternative you can stream with. Otherwise, no. And Piledriver, which is the improved Bulldozer architecture (based on trinity) for desktop isn't coming until august, and even then I doubt it will change much. | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
On May 22 2012 02:21 nosliw wrote: Sorry I am new here, but I noticed everyone who is building a desktop is only considering intel cpus. Are AMD's that far behind? They recently lauched AMD Trinity. Any thoughts on that? AMD's best CPU(FX-8150) loses to Intels midrange CPU's (i5-2400/i5-3450) by a large margin and is on par for gaming with intels Core i3 line. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=363 http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=289 | ||
Jayde
Marshall Islands104 Posts
I'm looking now and just about anything that is not out of stock is $550 to $650. | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
On May 21 2012 23:01 Forumite wrote: I´m thinking about building a new computer, a smaller mid-level gaming computer that is easy to move around. The focus is on RAM, HD and cooling, rather than graphics. A rough draft of the build is below. MoBo: ASUS Maximus IV GENE-Z/GEN3 - mATX CPU: Intel Core i7-2600 3,4GHz RAM: 2x Kingston HyperX 2048MB DDR3 PC3-12800 1600MHz GPU: Asus GeForce GTS 450 DirectCU SILENT 1GB PSU: Corsair PSU 600W Gaming series 80+ Case: Lian Li PC-V354B Minitower mATX SSD: Kingston 120GB HyperX 3K SSD SATA3 2,5" HDD: Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB Any tips or opinions are greatly appreciated. What site are you buying from? | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
On May 22 2012 03:08 Jayde wrote: Does anyone here have any information on when the next batch of GTX 680's will be available? I'm looking now and just about anything that is not out of stock is $550 to $650. Buy a GTX 670. Its 95% of the performance for $100 less. | ||
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Shauni
4077 Posts
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Jayde
Marshall Islands104 Posts
On May 22 2012 03:09 iTzSnypah wrote: Buy a GTX 670. Its 95% of the performance for $100 less. Which is also either out of stock or overpriced where available. I'm just looking to see if anyone has any information on when these things will be available again. Thanks. | ||
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