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On April 09 2012 02:30 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 02:20 Myrmidon wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 09 2012 01:59 Shauni wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 00:27 Womwomwom wrote:
Since you're talking about rubber hard drive mounting solutions and a chassis filled with holes, I guess I'm sorry you got a bad computer chassis for quiet computing...? If you want a very, very quiet computer, get a system designed for it before complaining about system noise.
Like I said before, I'm building in the ps07b, it's relatively silent but I don't think it has much sound dampening material. I don't see the point of it, since if you're running a passive or near passive you want good airflow and there is no real 'noise' to dampen. If the only issue is the hard drive then why not skip them for a more favorable drive? I don't know what Jinglehell got wrong, but I didn't recommend it to you guys, you were the ones with skeptic looks when I mentioned torrent and SSD in the same sentence. "SSD not just used for OS drive?! Blasphemy!". My first response was due to a misunderstanding: I thought the torrents would be to an SSD and then copied to a mechanical drive, which doesn't make sense. Depending on the amount of data you're looking at, I still think going flash for all data is not terribly a great idea unless you're sitting on a pile of cash, but let's not get into mischaracterizations. It's fine if you want to do that, as I covered above. I think asking about flash durability for this application is a much dumber question from a technical point of view, than what people have been asking you, to be honest. However, this thread is about answering questions, so obviously I'm not going to hold ignorance against people who need answers. No matter how you look at it, it makes no sense. I'd love to have 100 600GB SSDs for torrenting too but I rather spend my money else where first.
I was thinking that some people could live off of something like 120-500GB of total storage, so depending on the needs, it's reasonably doable with just SSDs even if it isn't at all cost effective. (but even then, if noise is the primary concern, I'd still run a NAS tucked away somewhere else, using mechanical drives, for backup purposes)
The question wasn't about whether it made the most sense, but whether or not is was technologically feasible, which it is.
On April 09 2012 02:31 Shauni wrote:
The only reason to get a hard drive is like you say, price and storage capacity. The memory modules will fall steadily in price while increasing the storage, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that mechanical drives will soon be phased out.
How soon is "soon" here? Once hard drive supply is back to normal we'll be back to $0.05 / GB and lower for mechanical storage; some drives are close to that even on the current market. Advances there still push down costs / storage, though admittedly not at the same pace as it has been for SSDs.
I'm not seeing flash-based storage going down to those levels anytime soon. What's your prediction? There will be a paradigm shift with other solid-state storage first, or SSD price / capacity will come close to overtaking mechanical storage...when?
Most people seem to think hybrid storage is the future, at least among those still using desktop and laptop computers as opposed to just phones and tablets. Many Ultrabooks and laptops are heading that way with hybrid storage. Intel SRT is a start, as are all of the SSD caching stuff out there that frankly mostly sucks now.
edit: I'm counting the current situation of enthusiast / power computer users managing separate SSDs and HDDs as "hybrid storage" at least in this sense of technological adoption.
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On April 09 2012 02:31 Shauni wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 02:05 JingleHell wrote:
Wait, what am I supposed to have gotten wrong? The fact that if you do it properly the performance gain is negligible? Or the fact that you can do what you want with your money, but you won't persuade us to ignore the realities of the situation?
I'm the last person to give a shit if you decide to spend money for small gains, I'm just telling you that you can avoid the spending and still get solid gains.
I say this a lot, but if you don't want to hear anything besides "You're a genius!", don't ask for opinions. I don't mind criticism, and you misinterpret me again. I just brought up a question about the write cycles on SSD, and suddenly it's outrageous that I'm considering storing things on an SSD. I didn't even bring up a mechanical drive as an alternative and my question had nothing to do with SSD vs HDD initially, I was only forced to defend my own SSD usage based on your inquiries, so when you say things like "What's silly is when you try to justify it to other people" and "I say this a lot, but if you don't want to hear anything besides "You're a genius!", don't ask for opinions." I feel that it is very unfair. Either way, let us drop this now and not clutter up the computer build thread with pointless semantics. The only reason to get a hard drive is like you say, price and storage capacity. The memory modules will fall steadily in price while increasing the storage, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that mechanical drives will soon be phased out. I just don't see the point of buying mechanical drives if you're building a new computer, if you have some extra money to spend today that is. That's like inserting a floppy drive in it just to be retro.
Actually, if you look back, I just suggested a few alternatives to look into before sinking the money, originally. Once you started listing your reasons, and they didn't make any sense, I joined in on explaining why your reasoning doesn't completely line up with realistic mainstream user experience. All along, I've said spend your money how you want, just don't ask us to agree that it actually makes sense when it doesn't to us. You're the one trying to force opinions, not me.
And if we're going to avoid semantics games, let's not immediately follow that by blatantly misinterpreting what I said. I didn't say price and storage capacity were the only reasons, I said that because of them, it eliminates constant over-writes as a factor for HDDs easily. Even my dream builds don't currently incorporate pure SSDs yet, because there's just plain no need.
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I think 50 years is a big exaggeration. With die shrinks, cheaper types of memory (TLC NAND etc), the constant rate of improvement following moore's law and other various factors like massproducing NAND for every laptop etc will push the prices down just as quickly as before.
4 years ago, you could get a 16gb unit for 600$, in 4 years you can get a 1tb unit for 150$ if nothing drastic happens. Even if they (then) might still be slightly higher than mechanichal drives in price, it's so small that the advantages will outweigh the premium price. So in around 5 years, mechanical drives will decline in production.
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Yeah and OLED monitors are going to cost as much as TFT monitors in the year of 2015 at the rate its going (what posters on Engadget and The Verge believe). It could but who the fuck knows, I don't know and you don't know. But a lot of predictors and deniers are going to end up with egg on their face.
Same with SSDs. Who knows what will happen in the future but if you honestly think die shrinks (how much further can they actually go?) and demand are going to drive the price down to anywhere near hard disk levels any time soon, you are probably going to be wrong. Of course SSDs will be replacing a lot of demand for mechanical disks, they are significantly better in devices like tablets and laptops for obvious reasons but you are seriously delusional if you believe mechanical hard disks are going to decline in popularity. Why? Because they are dirt cheap, offers tons of space, and are just as fast as SSDs if you just want to watch movies or open point-and-shoot pictures.
Yes you can do a full SSD system if that's the answer you want. No one does because its incredibly costly and offers no real benefit for anything other than boot, scratch, or visualization purposes (guess what corporate uses SSDs for?). I'm sorry about getting snappy at you but it was just such an incredibly silly thing for anyone to really think about.
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Can someone recommend me a motherboard for my 2500K? A canadian retailer.
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Die shrinks can go to 9 nm.
After that major problems with quantum tunneling, and also avalanche breakdown start to happen. Intel says they will start manufacturing 10 nm tech in 2016 (or designing for it really). I expect an extremely long plateau in technology when that happens.
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That's a plateau in process technology and hopefully not technology. Yeah, I know what you mean. By that point hopefully they'll figure out something useful to do with the extra transistors for once. I mean, memory is the only application where we've come up with an efficient use of those transistors on the package.
On April 09 2012 13:23 Kilos wrote:
Can someone recommend me a motherboard for my 2500K? A canadian retailer.
I'd get one of these two:
Sapphire Pure Black P67 -- $99
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=66937
Asus P8Z77-M Pro -- $135
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=69885&promoid=1205
and of course report back to us how it works.  The Sapphire looks to be a pretty good deal.
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Hi all:
Been following this thread for months and I think it's finally time to pull the trigger. This is my first build so any help is appreciated.
What is your budget?
I'm looking at around $1,000 MAX, including Windows and monitor. I would love, love, love to get that down to around $850 or so, but I don't mind spending a little more if it allows for a better build.
What is your resolution?
no idea.
What are you using it for?
Diablo 3. As in, Diablo 3 is pretty much the only reason I'm building this. I also do general stuff (i.e. netflix, some light photoshop, etc), but I figure any build could handle this stuff.
What is your upgrade cycle?
I would rather spend a little less now and only have the ability to play games at this moment (did i mention Diablo 3?), but I want the ability to upgrade later. (i.e. i'll splurge a little more on a mobo necessary).
When do you plan on building it?
Within the next week.
Do you plan on overclocking?
Maybe? If it's worth the extra money now to help later.
Do you need an Operating System?
Yes. Windows.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
not necessary.
Where are you buying your parts from?
anywhere, but I don't have a fry's near me. so i'm assuming mostly online retailers.
I was tinkering around, and this is a build I came up with:
Motherboard - ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 @ 121.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271
GPU - XFX HD-685X-ZCFC Radeon HD 6850 @ 139.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150573
CPU - Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz @ 219.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072
RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 @ 46.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314
HDD- Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ/ST500DM005 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache @ 84.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181
PSU - Antec EarthWatts Green EA-430D Green 430W @ 54.99
Case - Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case @ 59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042
OS - Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM @ 99.99
Monitor - ASUS VS Series VS238H-P Black 23" 2ms HDMI LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor @ 169.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236175
Total: $1,016.90
If anyone can give some tweaks to that general build, and if possible, shave off $100 or more, that would be great. As I mentioned before, the big thing is to be able to play Diablo 3 on pretty good, if not best, settings. If any of my components are overkill, let me know as I would much rather spend LESS NOW and upgrade later.
Thanks in advance, you guys are great.
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Yes thats true. Post 9 nm, tech is gonna slow down though, its still gonna get better, but I mean. The next technology down the line is pretty far away.
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On April 09 2012 13:39 Medrea wrote:
Die shrinks can go to 9 nm.
After that major problems with quantum tunneling, and also avalanche breakdown start to happen. Intel says they will start manufacturing 10 nm tech in 2016 (or designing for it really). I expect an extremely long plateau in technology when that happens.
Agreed, barring weird shit like quantum computing coming out, I think the cooler new avenues in tech are going to be in stuff like flexible transistors, wearable computing, etc.
We've already hit the end of increasing clock speeds due to limitations of semiconductors' switching speed. Processors aren't getting faster. If they don't figure out a way around the next big blocks, they'll stop getting smaller too.
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On April 09 2012 14:05 thisisnotralph wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hi all: Been following this thread for months and I think it's finally time to pull the trigger. This is my first build so any help is appreciated. What is your budget?I'm looking at around $1,000 MAX, including Windows and monitor. I would love, love, love to get that down to around $850 or so, but I don't mind spending a little more if it allows for a better build. What is your resolution?no idea. What are you using it for?Diablo 3. As in, Diablo 3 is pretty much the only reason I'm building this. I also do general stuff (i.e. netflix, some light photoshop, etc), but I figure any build could handle this stuff. What is your upgrade cycle?I would rather spend a little less now and only have the ability to play games at this moment (did i mention Diablo 3?), but I want the ability to upgrade later. (i.e. i'll splurge a little more on a mobo necessary). When do you plan on building it?Within the next week. Do you plan on overclocking?Maybe? If it's worth the extra money now to help later. Do you need an Operating System?Yes. Windows.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?not necessary. Where are you buying your parts from?anywhere, but I don't have a fry's near me. so i'm assuming mostly online retailers. I was tinkering around, and this is a build I came up with: Motherboard - ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 @ 121.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271GPU - XFX HD-685X-ZCFC Radeon HD 6850 @ 139.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150573CPU - Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz @ 219.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 @ 46.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314HDD- Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ/ST500DM005 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache @ 84.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181PSU - Antec EarthWatts Green EA-430D Green 430W @ 54.99 Case - Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case @ 59.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042OS - Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM @ 99.99 Monitor - ASUS VS Series VS238H-P Black 23" 2ms HDMI LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor @ 169.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236175Total: $1,016.90 If anyone can give some tweaks to that general build, and if possible, shave off $100 or more, that would be great. As I mentioned before, the big thing is to be able to play Diablo 3 on pretty good, if not best, settings. If any of my components are overkill, let me know as I would much rather spend LESS NOW and upgrade later. Thanks in advance, you guys are great.
Z68 Extreme3 is unnecessary since you won't be doing SLI / CrossfireX. Get an Asrock P67 Pro3 instead for $100: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230
I'd suggest the ASUS Radeon HD6850 DirectCu II instead if you're buying before the 11th (arguably better at same price <$140> with promo code ASUS45, ends 4/11. Get it together in a combo with Mushkin 2x4GB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.879078
Get Coolermaster HAF912 which is a better case for less, $50: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1101 If you want to save some money, y
Get an Antec Neo Eco 450C for $35 instead: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60491&promoid=1101
Get 2500k for $200: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57962&promoid=1101
Get Windows 7 for $95: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45271&promoid=1101
You're missing a heatsink for overclocking, you might as well install it now to save you the trouble later. Get the Coolermaster Hyper 212+ for $23: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&promoid=1101 You can of course add it later if you're really hurting for money right now.
You're missing a DVD burner but I assume you have that covered.
Note that NCIX sales end this Wednesday though most sales will come back the following week. Some might not be there again.
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On April 09 2012 14:21 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 14:05 thisisnotralph wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hi all: Been following this thread for months and I think it's finally time to pull the trigger. This is my first build so any help is appreciated. What is your budget?I'm looking at around $1,000 MAX, including Windows and monitor. I would love, love, love to get that down to around $850 or so, but I don't mind spending a little more if it allows for a better build. What is your resolution?no idea. What are you using it for?Diablo 3. As in, Diablo 3 is pretty much the only reason I'm building this. I also do general stuff (i.e. netflix, some light photoshop, etc), but I figure any build could handle this stuff. What is your upgrade cycle?I would rather spend a little less now and only have the ability to play games at this moment (did i mention Diablo 3?), but I want the ability to upgrade later. (i.e. i'll splurge a little more on a mobo necessary). When do you plan on building it?Within the next week. Do you plan on overclocking?Maybe? If it's worth the extra money now to help later. Do you need an Operating System?Yes. Windows.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?not necessary. Where are you buying your parts from?anywhere, but I don't have a fry's near me. so i'm assuming mostly online retailers. I was tinkering around, and this is a build I came up with: Motherboard - ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 @ 121.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271GPU - XFX HD-685X-ZCFC Radeon HD 6850 @ 139.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150573CPU - Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz @ 219.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 @ 46.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314HDD- Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ/ST500DM005 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache @ 84.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181PSU - Antec EarthWatts Green EA-430D Green 430W @ 54.99 Case - Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case @ 59.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042OS - Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM @ 99.99 Monitor - ASUS VS Series VS238H-P Black 23" 2ms HDMI LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor @ 169.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236175Total: $1,016.90 If anyone can give some tweaks to that general build, and if possible, shave off $100 or more, that would be great. As I mentioned before, the big thing is to be able to play Diablo 3 on pretty good, if not best, settings. If any of my components are overkill, let me know as I would much rather spend LESS NOW and upgrade later. Thanks in advance, you guys are great. Z68 Extreme3 is unnecessary since you won't be doing SLI / CrossfireX. Get an Asrock P67 Pro3 instead for $100: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230I'd suggest the ASUS Radeon HD6850 DirectCu II instead if you're buying before the 11th (arguably better at same price <$140> with promo code ASUS45, ends 4/11. Get it together in a combo with Mushkin 2x4GB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.879078 Get Coolermaster HAF912 which is a better case for less, $50: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1101 If you want to save some money, y Get an Antec Neo Eco 450C for $35 instead: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60491&promoid=1101Get 2500k for $200: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57962&promoid=1101Get Windows 7 for $95: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45271&promoid=1101You're missing a heatsink for overclocking, you might as well install it now to save you the trouble later. Get the Coolermaster Hyper 212+ for $23: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&promoid=1101 You can of course add it later if you're really hurting for money right now. You're missing a DVD burner but I assume you have that covered. Note that NCIX sales end this Wednesday though most sales will come back the following week. Some might not be there again.
this is exactly what I was looking for, thanks.
so NCIX sales are cyclical or something? they'll be back the end of April?
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On April 09 2012 13:53 Myrmidon wrote:That's a plateau in process technology and hopefully not technology. Yeah, I know what you mean. By that point hopefully they'll figure out something useful to do with the extra transistors for once. I mean, memory is the only application where we've come up with an efficient use of those transistors on the package. Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 13:23 Kilos wrote:
Can someone recommend me a motherboard for my 2500K? A canadian retailer. I'd get one of these two: Sapphire Pure Black P67 -- $99 http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=66937Asus P8Z77-M Pro -- $135 http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=69885&promoid=1205and of course report back to us how it works. The Sapphire looks to be a pretty good deal.
Are their major differences between the Asus P8P67 and Asus P8Z77-M Pro?
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On April 09 2012 14:35 thisisnotralph wrote:
so NCIX sales are cyclical or something? they'll be back the end of April?
NCIX sales change weekly, and they are not cyclical - they simply change to whatever NCIX wants each week. However, some sales are pretty consistent (i5-2500k has been at $200 and the HAF 912 have been at $50 rather than $215 and $60 for awhile now).
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On April 09 2012 14:35 thisisnotralph wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 09 2012 14:21 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 14:05 thisisnotralph wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hi all: Been following this thread for months and I think it's finally time to pull the trigger. This is my first build so any help is appreciated. What is your budget?I'm looking at around $1,000 MAX, including Windows and monitor. I would love, love, love to get that down to around $850 or so, but I don't mind spending a little more if it allows for a better build. What is your resolution?no idea. What are you using it for?Diablo 3. As in, Diablo 3 is pretty much the only reason I'm building this. I also do general stuff (i.e. netflix, some light photoshop, etc), but I figure any build could handle this stuff. What is your upgrade cycle?I would rather spend a little less now and only have the ability to play games at this moment (did i mention Diablo 3?), but I want the ability to upgrade later. (i.e. i'll splurge a little more on a mobo necessary). When do you plan on building it?Within the next week. Do you plan on overclocking?Maybe? If it's worth the extra money now to help later. Do you need an Operating System?Yes. Windows.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?not necessary. Where are you buying your parts from?anywhere, but I don't have a fry's near me. so i'm assuming mostly online retailers. I was tinkering around, and this is a build I came up with: Motherboard - ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 @ 121.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271GPU - XFX HD-685X-ZCFC Radeon HD 6850 @ 139.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150573CPU - Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz @ 219.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 @ 46.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314HDD- Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ/ST500DM005 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache @ 84.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181PSU - Antec EarthWatts Green EA-430D Green 430W @ 54.99 Case - Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case @ 59.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042OS - Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM @ 99.99 Monitor - ASUS VS Series VS238H-P Black 23" 2ms HDMI LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor @ 169.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236175Total: $1,016.90 If anyone can give some tweaks to that general build, and if possible, shave off $100 or more, that would be great. As I mentioned before, the big thing is to be able to play Diablo 3 on pretty good, if not best, settings. If any of my components are overkill, let me know as I would much rather spend LESS NOW and upgrade later. Thanks in advance, you guys are great. Z68 Extreme3 is unnecessary since you won't be doing SLI / CrossfireX. Get an Asrock P67 Pro3 instead for $100: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230I'd suggest the ASUS Radeon HD6850 DirectCu II instead if you're buying before the 11th (arguably better at same price <$140> with promo code ASUS45, ends 4/11. Get it together in a combo with Mushkin 2x4GB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.879078 Get Coolermaster HAF912 which is a better case for less, $50: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1101 If you want to save some money, y Get an Antec Neo Eco 450C for $35 instead: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60491&promoid=1101Get 2500k for $200: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57962&promoid=1101Get Windows 7 for $95: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45271&promoid=1101You're missing a heatsink for overclocking, you might as well install it now to save you the trouble later. Get the Coolermaster Hyper 212+ for $23: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&promoid=1101 You can of course add it later if you're really hurting for money right now. You're missing a DVD burner but I assume you have that covered. Note that NCIX sales end this Wednesday though most sales will come back the following week. Some might not be there again. this is exactly what I was looking for, thanks. so NCIX sales are cyclical or something? they'll be back the end of April?
NCIX has weekly sales that start and end Wednesday evening. It's not always the same components but a lot of the components do appear quite often. Antec Neo Eco 450C is one of those items that goes on sale here and there, it's not always. HAF 912 will almost always be in the sale, same with Windows 7, Hyper 212+, and 2500k as well.
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got it. so of the above, I should maybe pull the trigger on the Antec Neo Eco 450C, but should be safe on waiting for Windows and the 2500k should I pass the Wednesday deadline?
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On April 09 2012 14:40 Kilos wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 09 2012 13:53 Myrmidon wrote:That's a plateau in process technology and hopefully not technology. Yeah, I know what you mean. By that point hopefully they'll figure out something useful to do with the extra transistors for once. I mean, memory is the only application where we've come up with an efficient use of those transistors on the package. Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 13:23 Kilos wrote:
Can someone recommend me a motherboard for my 2500K? A canadian retailer. I'd get one of these two: Sapphire Pure Black P67 -- $99 http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=66937Asus P8Z77-M Pro -- $135 http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=69885&promoid=1205and of course report back to us how it works. The Sapphire looks to be a pretty good deal. Are their major differences between the Asus P8P67 and Asus P8Z77-M Pro?
Z77 chipset is basically a better version of Z68.
On April 09 2012 14:48 thisisnotralph wrote:+ Show Spoiler +got it. so of the above, I should maybe pull the trigger on the Antec Neo Eco 450C, but should be safe on waiting for Windows and the 2500k should I pass the Wednesday deadline?
Pretty much. Though there's no guarantee that something better won't go on sale between your purchases.
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On April 09 2012 14:48 thisisnotralph wrote:
got it. so of the above, I should maybe pull the trigger on the Antec Neo Eco 450C, but should be safe on waiting for Windows and the 2500k should I pass the Wednesday deadline?
NCIX offers free shipping... but only on orders over $50.
There's usually a similar deal for a power supply... but not always. Not a bad idea to pick up the Antec this week, you'll just have to pick up something else as well. Maybe the case. Not a disaster if you wait either.
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actually one more question. if ivy bridge is being released at the end of the month, should I wait and see if that affects the price of my build at all? or will its release not really change anything at my pricepoint?
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Prices won't drop when Ivy Bridge is released. However, the new Ivy Bridge equivalent of the i5-2500k will be available for $225 or so. I think guesses are it will be 5-10% faster (though that doesn't quite equate to 5-10% better). Your call on whether waiting that long is worth it.
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