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On March 29 2012 06:28 Snackysnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 00:46 BossPlaya wrote:
Overclocked 955 black edition
8 gigs of 2200mhz ram
intel ssd with a seagate hybrid data drive
radeon 5570
600w ocz psu
thermaltake armor a60 case
Posted this setup that my friend is selling a while ago when he was asking 450. Someone said that the most appealing part is the SSD and that if the 5570 would be replaced soon that it isn't really worth it. He's since dropped the price down to 300-350. Should I jump on that? Will it be able to stream SC2? if you can get a bit more specific, such as mobo, and how far did he take his 955 on that overclock. You should be able to barely make 720p (i did on my 955) but it be better if we knew a lil more
umm, a 4ghz 955 easily streams 720p, it's pretty equal to a stock i5 2500 in threaded performance.
Regarding high memory clocks being better on phenom, I've never heard that...
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Oh. Is it only Bulldozer/Llano?
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On March 29 2012 08:42 Alryk wrote:
Oh. Is it only Bulldozer/Llano?
Only Llano using IGP, AFAIK. Even if it technically helps with IGP on BD, anyone spending that much on mobo/CPU for a gaming purpose should be using a discrete GPU, and, realistically, intel in 95% of cases.
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+ Show Spoiler +On March 28 2012 14:54 skyR wrote:
Well if you're satisfied with the performance you're getting and you think the problem is your HDD than just buy a new HDD. If it's not the problem than you have extra storage than you can carry forward.
$80 for a Spinpoint F3 is good for Newegg, $85 is about your average pricing on Newegg for your typical 7200 RPM 500GB HDD. Seagate Barracudas can be found for less at other retailers.
Thanks skyR, just ordered a 500GB seagate barracuda.
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On March 29 2012 08:47 JingleHell wrote:Only Llano using IGP, AFAIK. Even if it technically helps with IGP on BD, anyone spending that much on mobo/CPU for a gaming purpose should be using a discrete GPU, and, realistically, intel in 95% of cases.
Well it also should be Intel IGPs too, just all GPUs in general unless they have their own dedicated memory (which is the case for all add-in video cards). GPUs really need access to fast memory, hence the really wide buses to really fast GDDR5 on high-end GPUs.
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On March 29 2012 09:03 Myrmidon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 08:47 JingleHell wrote:On March 29 2012 08:42 Alryk wrote:
Oh. Is it only Bulldozer/Llano? Only Llano using IGP, AFAIK. Even if it technically helps with IGP on BD, anyone spending that much on mobo/CPU for a gaming purpose should be using a discrete GPU, and, realistically, intel in 95% of cases. Well it also should be Intel IGPs too, just all GPUs in general unless they have their own dedicated memory (which is the case for all add-in video cards). GPUs really need access to fast memory, hence the really wide buses to really fast GDDR5 on high-end GPUs.
Yeah, but even SB IGP is so bad it's not worth mentioning for gaming. Llano is the only one that's REALLY able to play games, at an IGP-reasonable price-point, and for 2D IGP, it doesn't really matter.
I don't see it as ignoring an option, because I don't consider it an option.
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United States2033 Posts
I game on HD2000 
(But I do that on purpose to make sure my computer can't handle any game I would play a bunch other than SC2, lol.)
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is an i5 2400 for $150 at microcenter a lot better deal than an i3 2120 for $128 at newegg? a mere $22 for better performance seems reasonable to me. the pc is mainly for gaming, and I won't overclock.
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On March 29 2012 10:32 xeo1 wrote:
is an i5 2400 for $150 at microcenter a lot better deal than an i3 2120 for $128 at newegg? a mere $22 for better performance seems reasonable to me. the pc is mainly for gaming, and I won't overclock.
Depends on shipping and motherboard costs, as well as your preferences of games, and how much stuff you do in the background. But overall, yeah, it sounds reasonable on the surface.
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On March 29 2012 08:02 Shauni wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 06:28 Snackysnacks wrote:On March 29 2012 00:46 BossPlaya wrote:
Overclocked 955 black edition
8 gigs of 2200mhz ram
intel ssd with a seagate hybrid data drive
radeon 5570
600w ocz psu
thermaltake armor a60 case
Posted this setup that my friend is selling a while ago when he was asking 450. Someone said that the most appealing part is the SSD and that if the 5570 would be replaced soon that it isn't really worth it. He's since dropped the price down to 300-350. Should I jump on that? Will it be able to stream SC2? if you can get a bit more specific, such as mobo, and how far did he take his 955 on that overclock. You should be able to barely make 720p (i did on my 955) but it be better if we knew a lil more umm, a 4ghz 955 easily streams 720p, it's pretty equal to a stock i5 2500 in threaded performance. Regarding high memory clocks being better on phenom, I've never heard that...
He didnt specify clock nor did i say anything about a phenom being better..... wat?
Ive had some chokes lategame 2v2 on some settings with alot of zergs, or zvz 1v1 super lategame where we bust over the 200 cap streaming 720p at a quality id personally prefer.
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On March 29 2012 11:00 Snackysnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 08:02 Shauni wrote:On March 29 2012 06:28 Snackysnacks wrote:On March 29 2012 00:46 BossPlaya wrote:
Overclocked 955 black edition
8 gigs of 2200mhz ram
intel ssd with a seagate hybrid data drive
radeon 5570
600w ocz psu
thermaltake armor a60 case
Posted this setup that my friend is selling a while ago when he was asking 450. Someone said that the most appealing part is the SSD and that if the 5570 would be replaced soon that it isn't really worth it. He's since dropped the price down to 300-350. Should I jump on that? Will it be able to stream SC2? if you can get a bit more specific, such as mobo, and how far did he take his 955 on that overclock. You should be able to barely make 720p (i did on my 955) but it be better if we knew a lil more umm, a 4ghz 955 easily streams 720p, it's pretty equal to a stock i5 2500 in threaded performance. Regarding high memory clocks being better on phenom, I've never heard that... He didnt specify clock nor did i say anything about a phenom being better..... wat? Ive had some chokes lategame 2v2 on some settings with alot of zergs, or zvz 1v1 super lategame where we bust over the 200 cap streaming 720p at a quality id personally prefer.
Regarding the phenom thing, I asked a question about it.
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On March 29 2012 10:53 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 10:32 xeo1 wrote:
is an i5 2400 for $150 at microcenter a lot better deal than an i3 2120 for $128 at newegg? a mere $22 for better performance seems reasonable to me. the pc is mainly for gaming, and I won't overclock. Depends on shipping and motherboard costs, as well as your preferences of games, and how much stuff you do in the background. But overall, yeah, it sounds reasonable on the surface.
no shipping as I would be picking it up at a store an hour away, and the motherboard is the asrock h61m-vs for $55.
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United States2033 Posts
Well driving a few hours would be a pain, and cost gas, but yeah, the i5-2500 is better than an i3-2120. You might be able to get the mobo on discount at microcenter too.
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On March 29 2012 11:31 MisterFred wrote:
Well driving a few hours would be a pain, and cost gas, but yeah, the i5-2500 is better than an i3-2120. You might be able to get the mobo on discount at microcenter too.
it's the i5 2400 tho^^
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United States2033 Posts
lol typo. Pretty much the same thing anyway. i5-2xxx = 4 core no hyperthreading. i3-21xx = 2-core with hyperthreading. In any application that uses more than 2 cores the i5 should be a significant improvement. For things like SC2 (no streaming), it should be roughly the same.
It's basically $50-$70 more for the i5 (price + gas + time). For pure gaming you might not bother, but the i5 is overall a bit stronger. Is it worth it? Up to you.
Edit: Most games will run fine on 2 cores. Some have an improvement on 4.
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On March 29 2012 12:01 MisterFred wrote:
lol typo. Pretty much the same thing anyway. i5-2xxx = 4 core no hyperthreading. i3-21xx = 2-core with hyperthreading. In any application that uses more than 2 cores the i5 should be a significant improvement. For things like SC2 (no streaming), it should be roughly the same.
so for games it's not that important? i mean for 20 some dollars it's worth it imo
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On March 29 2012 12:02 xeo1 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 12:01 MisterFred wrote:
lol typo. Pretty much the same thing anyway. i5-2xxx = 4 core no hyperthreading. i3-21xx = 2-core with hyperthreading. In any application that uses more than 2 cores the i5 should be a significant improvement. For things like SC2 (no streaming), it should be roughly the same. so for games it's not that important? i mean for 20 some dollars it's worth it imo
If you consider it worth it, it's worth it, as a general rule. But the gas money should be tacked onto the cost, and then check if it's cheaper to just order the better CPU with the rest of your parts.
If you're not running other CPU intensive tasks concurrent with your gaming, it's not a huge improvement for most things.
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Would an i3-2120 be good for streaming whatever my internet can handle?
My internet is teksavy 28/1.
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A core i5 is recommended for streaming and you need upload for streaming.
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On March 29 2012 12:46 skyR wrote:
A core i5 is recommended for streaming and you need upload for streaming.
Hmm but is it capable of streaming maybe a decent 720p with 1mb upload and that cpu?
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