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Kaboo
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden125 Posts
June 16 2010 10:56 GMT
#21
All what is said above + http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=117722
For some reason many ppl seems to think Intellimouse is good. Im digging my Deathadder. Best mouse i've ever had.
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication -Leonardo da Vinci
Chi
Profile Joined December 2009
Norway27 Posts
June 16 2010 10:57 GMT
#22
I tried using ms intellimouse 3.0, razor diamondback, logitech g5, a4tech x7 after my intellimouse 1.1 broke, none could match it so i went back to my good old low-tech intellimouse 1.1, all those fancy gaming mice just cant beat a solid lightweight mouse. But for me the most important thing about a mouse is its weight, without losing precision ofc.
peppermintschnaps
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany28 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-16 11:14:03
June 16 2010 11:07 GMT
#23
razer abyssus is probably the best shaped razer out there, the other razer mice are just god awful in shape and often have shitty material - for instance they use slippery, shiny plastic where you hold your mouse with your thumb and your pinky on the other side of the mouse. Thats just hilarious to me and unusable to anyone who tends to have somewhat sweaty hands during action packed games. You can't quite grab it as good as if it where a more rubberish material used i.e. on the kinzu.

The steelseries kinzu has some serious issues with its sensor though, it skips a bunch of pixels (few dozens at once every few minutes or so) at 1600dpi and it's probably unfixable according to steelseries insiders. Other than that, shape and material are better than everything I have encoutered so far, no gay useless sidebuttons like the mini optical logitech - just brilliant.

Unfortunately the intelli 3.0 has just 400 dpi, thus unable to cope with a 2560*1600 screen. Once they relaunch this mouse yet again with a new sensor, I'll have to stick to something else.
“One martini is all right. Two are too many, and three are not enough.” - James Thurber
nyshak
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany132 Posts
June 16 2010 11:11 GMT
#24
I get the impression that most RTS players move their mice with their fingertips (claw-grip) and thus prefer a small and light mouse. Some models:

Steelseries Kinzu (Xai, but expensive and too many features for a RTS)
Razer Salmosa
Logitech G1, G3, G9x (see Xai)
Microsoft WMO1.1/ IO1.1

A palm-grip mouse works as well ofc, but considering your not playing SC2 with a low sensitivity like you might a FPS, a claw-grip style should provide more accuracy. This however, requires your mouse to be as light as possible. IE the Kinzu weighs 70gr only.
B-)
Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-16 11:18:33
June 16 2010 11:16 GMT
#25
A while ago when i needed a mouse to play FPS at high level, i compiled a lot of info about many mice, and what other people were saying, what pros used etc, and these 3 standed out as the best built, more comfortable, precise, and better quality for price.

Razer Death Adder
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Logitech MX518
[image loading]

Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 (aka ie 3.0)
[image loading]

I have the MX518 for about 4 years and i love it to death, but any of those is equally very good. It's just a matter of preference. No need to pay lots of money for a top mouse.

Some also good mice are the Diamondback, the Copperhead and the G5.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-16 11:19:04
June 16 2010 11:17 GMT
#26
On June 16 2010 19:57 Chi wrote:
I tried using ms intellimouse 3.0, razor diamondback, logitech g5, a4tech x7 after my intellimouse 1.1 broke, none could match it so i went back to my good old low-tech intellimouse 1.1, all those fancy gaming mice just cant beat a solid lightweight mouse. But for me the most important thing about a mouse is its weight, without losing precision ofc.



pure preference. i need a kinda big and not too light mouse.

havent tested much different mice but i still use my 5 year old mx500 and love it.

remember having the 1st generation intellimouse. was good too but it broke after only a year or something.


most old razer models(dunno about the new ones) where way too small for me (im almost 190cm. so not the smallest hands) and i dont like symmetric designs in general.


On June 16 2010 20:11 nyshak wrote:
I get the impression that most RTS players move their mice with their fingertips (claw-grip) and thus prefer a small and light mouse. Some models:

Steelseries Kinzu (Xai, but expensive and too many features for a RTS)
Razer Salmosa
Logitech G1, G3, G9x (see Xai)
Microsoft WMO1.1/ IO1.1

A palm-grip mouse works as well ofc, but considering your not playing SC2 with a low sensitivity like you might a FPS, a claw-grip style should provide more accuracy. This however, requires your mouse to be as light as possible. IE the Kinzu weighs 70gr only.



mmhh i do the "claw" but prefer somewhat heavy and "hand fitting" mice.
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Scaryman
Profile Joined June 2010
United States70 Posts
June 16 2010 11:18 GMT
#27
I can't believe there isn't more love for the mx518 I love this mouse. The shape is perfect and if you have big hands like me its easier to control then smaller mice and puts less strain on the wrist.
PobTheCad
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Australia893 Posts
June 16 2010 11:19 GMT
#28
On June 16 2010 19:16 shawabawa wrote:

edit: But seriously, I use Microsoft Intellimouse, by far the best mouse I've ever used, and dirt cheap
[image loading]

And I did some tests and it's more accurate than the logitech G5 I bought, so I stopped using the g5.

they still make those things?
i remember using them in like 2001
Once again back is the incredible!
Chewie
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark708 Posts
June 16 2010 11:21 GMT
#29
I can recommend the Imperator razer mouse. Very comfortable and just good looking. It saves your mouse speed in a chip, so when you take your mouse to a different computer you dont have to reconfigure.
Looky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1608 Posts
June 16 2010 11:22 GMT
#30
its never about the mouse. just get something that your comfortable with. i had lots of different mouses, and it comes down to just practicing with it. then you will just become one with it really and any other mouse will just feel wierd.
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
June 16 2010 11:28 GMT
#31
Look at Nal_Ra playing with a ball mouse (does he still do that, there was some thing about mice on oldboy, but I can't remember?) and think about if you really need any fancy mouse .

I myself use a G9, had an MX500 before that for a couple of years. Reliable mice, the MX500 still works, although left click strikes sometime because dirt got under it. The G9 is especially great for my ultra high sensity preference.
doktorLucifer
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States855 Posts
June 16 2010 11:30 GMT
#32
Any right-hand specific mice you guys would recommend I have the intellimouse explorer, but it's got the sweat and blood of 10,000 games of StarCraft, endless games of CounterStrike, and some HoN ingrained in its very plastic.
k!llua
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia895 Posts
June 16 2010 11:31 GMT
#33
On June 16 2010 20:16 Duelist wrote:
A while ago when i needed a mouse to play FPS at high level, i compiled a lot of info about many mice, and what other people were saying, what pros used etc, and these 3 standed out as the best built, more comfortable, precise, and better quality for price.

Razer Death Adder
[image loading]

Logitech MX518
[image loading]

Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 (aka ie 3.0)
[image loading]

I have the MX518 for about 4 years and i love it to death, but any of those is equally very good. It's just a matter of preference. No need to pay lots of money for a top mouse.

Some also good mice are the Diamondback, the Copperhead and the G5.


That third mouse is the Intellimouse 1.1a; it's not the Intellimouse 3.0.
my hair is a wookie, your argument is invalid
Vedic
Profile Joined March 2008
United States582 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-16 11:44:11
June 16 2010 11:36 GMT
#34
ESReality has a great technical analysis of several gaming mice (from 2006, though) here: http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1265679

If you use around 1024x768, you will probably want to stick to around 800DPI for proper accuracy. For high screen resolution, it's best to find a mouse that allows small steps of DPI, but you still want to avoid 1600DPI unless you are running 1920x1080+ resolution. Regardless, form factor should be the most important point in your mouse selection. RTS games (SC especially) favor claw grip, which leads small mice to be rather popular - such as the Krait/Salmosa/Logitech Mini. Since RTS games are played at high sens, the above mouse chart is little use, since 99% of mice have perfect control and malfunction speeds FAR above anything you will ever reach.

Unless you intend to pretty much dedicate yourself to the game, you might as well just use any mouse. Go with what is comfortable first, and if it's got the extra oomph you need, more power to you.

edit: Oh, and in my personal opinion, the Krait and Salmosa are amazing mice for any game. The Krait has somewhat annoying rubber sides that will rub down over the years (but perfectly fine for the first year or so), and the Salmosa might have a squeaky mouse1 that will go away over time.
I tried to commit seppuku, but I accidentally committed bukkake.
Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-16 11:42:17
June 16 2010 11:38 GMT
#35
Nice, that's the site i was looking for to post here. Great find, good tests there, definitely worth a look, and it shows why DPI higher than 400 is hardly ever needed.

@k!llua, right. The intelimouse 3.0 is silver.
simme123
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Sweden810 Posts
June 16 2010 11:42 GMT
#36
[image loading]

The razer copperhead is what I am using it's pretty much the same as the diamondback and the krait and it feels perfect for me at least so I strongly recommend it if ur willing to spend a bit on a mouse however the Microsoft intellimouse is just great for the price that u pay
DorF
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden961 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-16 11:45:08
June 16 2010 11:43 GMT
#37
On June 16 2010 19:16 shawabawa wrote:
[image loading]
obv...


edit: But seriously, I use Microsoft Intellimouse, by far the best mouse I've ever used, and dirt cheap
[image loading]

And I did some tests and it's more accurate than the logitech G5 I bought, so I stopped using the g5.

I use the microsoft intellimouse too and I think it's awesome. OP should have included a poll , polls are always fun
BW for life !
maragin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States59 Posts
June 16 2010 11:49 GMT
#38
There are/were two different versions of the Logitech mx518. I suggest the one that has the two large "glidepads" on the bottom. (I've had both that, and the one with 5 little pads)

My favorite gaming mouse thus far for a variety of game types.
KasPra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Estonia983 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-16 11:55:56
June 16 2010 11:54 GMT
#39
On June 16 2010 20:28 h3r1n6 wrote:
Look at Nal_Ra playing with a ball mouse (does he still do that, there was some thing about mice on oldboy, but I can't remember?) and think about if you really need any fancy mouse .


This is about sc2 not bw. BW has such low resolution that almost every mouse is good and accurate there. Sc2 on the other hand is more demanding. (imo)

I play with Razer Krait (both bw and sc2 + some fps games and a lil bit of wow arena) and it has never failed me yet excluding some double clicking fails Its perfect for the claw grip too.
Ramsing
Profile Joined July 2007
Canada233 Posts
June 16 2010 12:06 GMT
#40
I've been using a G5 for 2-3 years now and have had 0 complaints about it. It's great because you can set it to throttle between different mouse speeds, which makes it very handy to switch between various games.
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