On January 30 2008 03:46 Salv wrote:
To be honest, I could care less what he looks like as long as they bring back the original voice actor. The fact is, if they hire a new person to voice Raynor, it's going to force a psychological reset and that, coupled with his new appearance will make him completely different from the old raynor. Actually, essentially, he would be a completely new character, the only thing in common being the name.

Let's hope they bring back the voice actor.

Well, they need to strike a balance between the old players (smaller base) and new (larger potential base)

A3iL3r0n

United States2196 Posts

January 30 2008 02:19 GMT

#43

On January 29 2008 21:10 pyrogenetix wrote:

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lol exactly what i was thinking

Raynor was a lot more interesting before, he looked like a scrub, but a scrub that was trying to save the world. Now he looks like an handsome older gentleman that drinks a bit too much a la Mel Gibson. They totally made him cliche.

(I think I'll stop posting in this thread since I've repeated myself a couple of times already.)

ZidaneTribal

United States2800 Posts

January 30 2008 02:40 GMT

#44

it'll grow on you

DamageControL

United States4222 Posts

January 30 2008 03:26 GMT

#45

Ok everyone there is a difference between Raynor growing more depressed, and getting farther in life and there being NO connection between the two

KissBlade

United States5718 Posts

January 30 2008 04:36 GMT

#46

On January 30 2008 11:19 A3iL3r0n wrote:

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He looks like a hobo ...

A3iL3r0n

United States2196 Posts

January 30 2008 05:26 GMT

#47

Where do you live? I've never seen such a good looking one.

KissBlade

United States5718 Posts

January 30 2008 06:57 GMT

#48

On January 30 2008 14:26 A3iL3r0n wrote:
Where do you live? I've never seen such a good looking one.

NYC -.- he honestly fits the role they described him as. Aka drunken hobo.

UbRi

Italy603 Posts

January 30 2008 11:09 GMT

#49

Maybe it's just me but the original character looked older than the new one, also, even if I could only see his face, he gave me the idea of a chubby man, how could he gain those muscules while being depressed and getting old? They don't really fit the character, and not even his look, there's no way that a younger man, used to wear long clothes with hood, changes his style into metro retarded bad guy style while getting older.
People change, ok, but I honestly don't like the way he changed

wXs.Havok

Argentina529 Posts

January 30 2008 11:24 GMT

#50

On January 29 2008 13:42 Last Romantic wrote:

COme on people. I know, he isnt the same, but its not something "OH MY GOD NOW HE IS BLOND"

Come on, we can accept this raynor ¬¬

its not like they changed the way Jesus looks. Its a game, and I like the new raynor's look, no matter if its too different to the old one

liosama

Australia843 Posts

January 30 2008 19:14 GMT

#51

i think he needs some permanent mutation on his left eye or something from some acidic juice sprayed on him by a stray hydra spit missile.

jjun212

Canada2208 Posts

January 30 2008 19:43 GMT

#52

personally, i wished raynor just died and they made a new hero

some bad ass fucker.

and throw some diversity in there. all the terran units are whites except for 1 black guy.. and guess who he is, the fucking worker.

jokes, i dont really care, its funny though.. they make the black guy the worker

Judicator

United States7270 Posts

January 30 2008 22:57 GMT

#53

On January 29 2008 16:37 evanthebouncy! wrote:
But the story did say he's getting pretty depressed and drank alot so it's kinda understandible that he looks bit un-sharp as if now.

Exactly.

In other words, if you were harassed constantly by someone with endless resources and picking up the scum of the universe to finance a resistance save people who probably don't give a crap out about you, most people would have done it KC-style by now.

A3iL3r0n

United States2196 Posts

January 31 2008 00:19 GMT

#54

Here's the point I think was driving at, but missing. Making Raynor handsome is making SC universe more like WC3. Why? Think about it. WC3 is a romantic fantasy, all of the heroes are handsome, smart and physically powerful (for the most part). The heroines are beautiful, petite, and somehow still powerful. It's all of the best things a person could possibly have rolled into one character. It makes sense for that universe.

SC on the other hand is grittier. The original Raynor looked like a normal guy. As did most of the other characters in the universe. Now, Blizzard is eroding that gritty, realistic feeling by making Raynor a suave looking, but internally tortured, hero. Pretty cliché. Just make Raynor look ordinary again, and have his actions be dramatic; as they are in SC. It's far more sophisticated that way, and that's why Blizzard is choosing the other route. For the kiddies.

If you want an example of how this works, think of Alien. Would the series be as interesting if a more blandly beautiful actress played Ripley? No, because your first reaction would've been, "Oh I get it. Another beautiful woman is getting chased a monster/killer/stalker." And you would've stopped actively watching the movie. Now obviously, there are other things that make Alien a good movie, but the look of the all the actors and the sets and everything affect how your expectations and how you feel when you're watching it. Do a thought experiment for yourself. Take any movie you like and in your mind imagine how the certain scenes would go if you replaced the original actors with different ones.

I guess this isn't super important since the single player story is more like a minor feature to the multiplayer part, but I think it's a boring, safer artistic direction to take.

Shade692003

Canada702 Posts

January 31 2008 01:25 GMT

#55

I fail to see how looking ordinary = more sophisticated. Hating mainstream does not make you "sophisticated".

TheOvermind77

United States923 Posts

January 31 2008 01:35 GMT

#56

Lol SC fans argue about the silliest things.

A3iL3r0n

United States2196 Posts

January 31 2008 01:52 GMT

#57

On January 31 2008 10:25 Shade692003 wrote:
I fail to see how looking ordinary = more sophisticated. Hating mainstream does not make you "sophisticated".

It's a slightly more sophisticated way of molding a hero. The first thing most people think of are handsome, muscular heroes; look at comic books for christ sake. Having a physically ordinary hero in the middle of great drama is a little less expected. Try thinking sometime, you might enjoy it

Shade692003

Canada702 Posts

January 31 2008 01:52 GMT

#58

You clearly never saw the protoss "chins" topic lol

Shade692003

Canada702 Posts

January 31 2008 02:02 GMT

#59

Well I think Raynor still fits in the ordinary hero "in the middle of great drama" (while I don't really think starcraft constitutes great drama anyway). I remember Christ Metzen's note on the lore and remember how he liked Raynor because of his ordinaryness. He wasn't the brightest man around, nor the most strong, only a man with convictions. I still think that's how Christ will represent Raynor in the sequel and I don't worry at all for him being "mainstream".