EPTWhich run was more impressive? TaeJa '12 vs Clem '24
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Yoshi Kirishima
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Winning several premiere tournaments in a short time is much more rare Clem did dominate a Serral who was in his peak form this year, but he also was in the military by EWC and that definitely gave him a disadvantage compared to early 2024 when he was in actual top form Also, Serral is just 1 person, and Clem only got a few other wins at EWC too Though, Taeja's tournies in 2012 did not entail him beating lots of top HotS players like MC, Life, MMA, Innovation, sOs, Zest, etc. like his later results in 2013-2015 did... so, it's not that big of a difference and I could agree with Clem dominating Serral in a Bo9 at the biggest tournament ever being more impressive too | ||
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If TaeJa had gotten a code S during that summer we could talk. | ||
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WombaT
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On September 13 2024 17:28 MJG wrote: I see that recency bias is doing well in the polling... As someone who thinks Taeja is massively underrated these days by many, the one thing he never nailed was a giant tourney like a WC or a GSL, which Clem did pull off this summer. | ||
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Gemini_19
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I picked TaeJa mostly because of that and how team leagues in general back then felt like they had more weight/importance and how that one was also an offline finals which made it even cooler. But Clem's total dominance at EWC probably is the real answer. But I'll let my old TL Korean bias take over a bit. | ||
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On September 14 2024 13:22 Gemini_19 wrote: To me the craziest thing about the TaeJa run in 2012 was after winning those 3 big tournaments back to back and looking on top of the world, then he goes into the IPL Team League and just carries TL so hard with so many back to back matches of him winning like 4-5 games straight, and to do it as their teams last life in the first set of the finals to get the full reset for the 2nd match was so hype back then. Even though they barely lost in the 2nd set it was a crazy thing to witness back then. I picked TaeJa mostly because of that and how team leagues in general back then felt like they had more weight/importance and how that one was also an offline finals which made it even cooler. But Clem's total dominance at EWC probably is the real answer. But I'll let my old TL Korean bias take over a bit. Still one of the all-time great feats in SC2 IMO that IPLTAC performance That was a really cool tournament too. It’s a shame they didn’t persist with it | ||
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Similar_Fix
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On September 14 2024 13:22 Gemini_19 wrote: To me the craziest thing about the TaeJa run in 2012 was after winning those 3 big tournaments back to back and looking on top of the world, then he goes into the IPL Team League and just carries TL so hard with so many back to back matches of him winning like 4-5 games straight, and to do it as their teams last life in the first set of the finals to get the full reset for the 2nd match was so hype back then. Even though they barely lost in the 2nd set it was a crazy thing to witness back then. I picked TaeJa mostly because of that and how team leagues in general back then felt like they had more weight/importance and how that one was also an offline finals which made it even cooler. But Clem's total dominance at EWC probably is the real answer. But I'll let my old TL Korean bias take over a bit. I was in the audience of IPL TAC 3, and the day summary is still carved in my mind : IM beats Team Taeja 1-7 | ||
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Waxangel
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On September 14 2024 23:55 WombaT wrote: Still one of the all-time great feats in SC2 IMO that IPLTAC performance That was a really cool tournament too. It’s a shame they didn’t persist with it Well, IPL itself died not long after IPL TAC3 ended—an early canary in the coal mine about what a money burner live esports could be. TakeTV's Acer TeamStory Cup is the more unfortunate casualty to me. It had a nice three-season run for hardcore fans, but it was trying to compete in an era where the SC2 calendar was more densely packed, and it couldn't avoid comparisons to Proleague as the real team competition of relevance. In a way, WTL picked up where ATC left off once Proleague died and the scene reorganized around ESL. | ||
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