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Vision_
870 Posts
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knotfun
41 Posts
Tbf I'm even more excited about the BW tournament than the SC2 one. | ||
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Booze
7 Posts
On March 30 2023 20:00 Creager wrote: money bags will lose interest shortly after and move to the next thing, so this kind of circuit will be a one-time thing, but yeah, that's quite the 'cup is half-empty' take, of course. $500,000 is nothing to them. They are just going for the low hanging fruit with this one. Google the prize pool for 'The Land of Heroes'. | ||
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vyzion
308 Posts
On March 30 2023 08:25 Waxangel wrote: Whataboutism is so comical. When normal people realize many entities (countries, companies, etc.) in the world are bad, they choose which ones not to support as best as they reasonably can. It's actually an INSANE take to say that if you accept one bad entity, you must accept all the others. It's virtue signaling and wokeism, which for whatever has taken over the western world...it's a mind virus | ||
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Balnazza
Germany1249 Posts
On March 31 2023 06:01 vyzion wrote: It's virtue signaling and wokeism, which for whatever has taken over the western world...it's a mind virus True. I feel like the UN should come up with a quota. Like you are allowed to opress women if you atleast sponsor 2 billion dollars per year for sport-events. Want to wage war against a neighbor? Damn, that's like 4-6 billion per year. Planning to make slavery legal again? Shit bro, we just hit double-digits! | ||
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
On March 31 2023 06:01 vyzion wrote: It's virtue signaling and wokeism, which for whatever has taken over the western world...it's a mind virus There's a mind virus taking over the western world... that causes them to not support foreign dictatorships whose values are inimical to those of western civilisation? Can someone confirm? | ||
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Glorfindelio
221 Posts
On March 31 2023 06:01 vyzion wrote: It's virtue signaling and wokeism, which for whatever has taken over the western world...it's a mind virus Yeah, sooo much wokeism and virtue-signaling to feel conflicted about supporting a regime that literally chopped an opposition figure into little tiny pieces after luring him to a location under false pretenses. That's pretty normal, right? Or maybe not everything is like every other thing. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10366 Posts
It's not like the US doesn't commit war crimes either (assassination of a top military leader especially without declaring war, drone attacks in cities where innocent civilians live, these are categorized as terrorist attacks). What about the US selling a lot of weapons to Saudi Arabia, and being allies? Does South Koreans playing in US sc2 tournaments mean they condone that? Is everyone in the US bad? Should everyone who disagrees with the gov suddenly leave for another country? What if you don't have the means to? If the World Olympics still hosts events in countries where there is a lot of political tension / possible war ongoing (like the USSR back then, or Germany), then i think it's OK for esports fans to come together for this too, as long as the people hosting this aren't the ones directly responsible for anything atrocious. | ||
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Elantris
66 Posts
On March 31 2023 16:12 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: If the World Olympics still hosts events in countries where there is a lot of political tension / possible war ongoing (like the USSR back then That's not a good example since 66 countries boycotted the games entirely. | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4376 Posts
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datastuff
31 Posts
On March 31 2023 16:12 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: Does the esports organizers have anything to do with the oil industry or the war crimes? Yes. The organisers are Saudi royalty. This tournament is literally a play by the government to improve their rep. https://saudiesports.sa/en/board-members/ | ||
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Incomplete..ReV
Norway637 Posts
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
On March 31 2023 16:12 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: I'm confused, i understand if you take issue with the country or its government, but what's wrong with what they're doing here? Do you boycott everything the country does? Is everyone in the country bad? Does the esports organizers have anything to do with the oil industry or the war crimes? It's not like the US doesn't commit war crimes either (assassination of a top military leader especially without declaring war, drone attacks in cities where innocent civilians live, these are categorized as terrorist attacks). What about the US selling a lot of weapons to Saudi Arabia, and being allies? Does South Koreans playing in US sc2 tournaments mean they condone that? Is everyone in the US bad? Should everyone who disagrees with the gov suddenly leave for another country? What if you don't have the means to? If the World Olympics still hosts events in countries where there is a lot of political tension / possible war ongoing (like the USSR back then, or Germany), then i think it's OK for esports fans to come together for this too, as long as the people hosting this aren't the ones directly responsible for anything atrocious. 1- This isn't a tournament organised by some StarCraft fans who happen to be Saudi, it's an image laundering project owned, paid for and chaired by the Saudi royals. 2- Trying to compare the United States and Saudi Arabia is completely oblivious, but even granted that ridiculous premise, you would be completely entitled to criticise American government propaganda utilising esports, as indeed people have. 3- People have criticised StarCraft tournaments for a multitude of things like broadcast time, payout format, ad time, bracket formation, casting talent, being held online, map pool, region locking, etc. but being used as image laundering by an awful dictatorship is somehow off-limits? What next, will I not be allowed to criticise that scumbag Luxury 'cause he's an MSL champion? If people want to be oblivious to what's happening, it's their responsibility to keep their heads buried in the sand, can't just accuse everyone actually talking about basic facts of being infected by a "mind virus". | ||
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Vision_
870 Posts
On March 31 2023 19:32 datastuff wrote: Yes. The organisers are Saudi royalty. This tournament is literally a play by the government to improve their rep. https://saudiesports.sa/en/board-members/ Yeah, now people think that if problems are too far from their country, they won t affect them. | ||
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od1himself
Austria7 Posts
On March 30 2023 01:47 Haku wrote: Glad about SC2 getting some love, but really don't like where the money for this is coming from. This. | ||
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Swisslink
2954 Posts
On March 31 2023 22:00 Fanatic-Templar wrote: 1- This isn't a tournament organised by some StarCraft fans who happen to be Saudi, it's an image laundering project owned, paid for and chaired by the Saudi royals. 2- Trying to compare the United States and Saudi Arabia is completely oblivious, but even granted that ridiculous premise, you would be completely entitled to criticise American government propaganda utilising esports, as indeed people have. 3- People have criticised StarCraft tournaments for a multitude of things like broadcast time, payout format, ad time, bracket formation, casting talent, being held online, map pool, region locking, etc. but being used as image laundering by an awful dictatorship is somehow off-limits? What next, will I not be allowed to criticise that scumbag Luxury 'cause he's an MSL champion? If people want to be oblivious to what's happening, it's their responsibility to keep their heads buried in the sand, can't just accuse everyone actually talking about basic facts of being infected by a "mind virus". Do you therefore not watch any ESL tournaments anymore? Remember that the entire freaking thing is owned by Saudi Arabia. And the entire thing was bought for image laundering purposes. I agree that it's shit. But whether we like it or not, without ESL (Saudi) or Gamers8 (Saudi) SC2 would be completely dead. | ||
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tigera6
3450 Posts
On March 31 2023 22:04 Vision_ wrote: Yeah, now people think that if problems are too far from their country, they won t affect them. Oh people think that they cant really control everything in life, and have to live with the "shame" of their choice. Like if the people of the country arent doing a thing about it, or they are not doing enough, then why are we trying to be the hero of justice all of a sudden? | ||
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MineraIs
United States846 Posts
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tlnetuser108
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
On April 01 2023 02:06 Swisslink wrote: Do you therefore not watch any ESL tournaments anymore? Remember that the entire freaking thing is owned by Saudi Arabia. And the entire thing was bought for image laundering purposes. I agree that it's shit. But whether we like it or not, without ESL (Saudi) or Gamers8 (Saudi) SC2 would be completely dead. Watch it, or don't, it's not my responsibility and I'm sure you're old enough to make your own choices without needing me to validate them. It's not people who watch this event I'm here to judge, it's the crybabies who want to pretend that this was an apolitical event until the woke virtue signalling mind virus of the western world caused people to mention who was funding it and why. It's impossible to achieve moral purity in our consumer habits, and it isn't like the StarCraft fanbase is large enough to launder the Sauds' reputation even if we wanted to and actively tried. Watching this tournament won't make you a bad person. But complaining that other people won't pretend everything's fine, or are willing to take action within the means available to them as though they're the problem? As though they're "bringing politics into this"? I absolutely despise that fucking cowardice. | ||
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