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[Interview] Zoun’s Last Message to His Fans
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CicadaSC
United States1469 Posts
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
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lechatnoir
384 Posts
GGs Zoun. Iirc he was the first from the old T1 roster to retire when proleague shut down but wow did he have a comeback later. I wish him a hassle-free military duty and hope to see him again in this game or the next. | ||
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Haku
Germany550 Posts
Probably his best shot at returning to pro gaming, if he desires to do so and we actually have a game with the right amount of fans to make a living out of it. GG Zoun! | ||
Nakajin
Canada8988 Posts
Great interview btw, Zoun sound like he has a good head on his shoulders. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15880 Posts
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Balnazza
Germany1106 Posts
On March 04 2023 20:53 Charoisaur wrote: Strange that pros put this much faith into Stormgate considering we know nothing about the game. They could just as well switch to age of empires if they just want to play another game I think some pros are a bit more involved with the game, like Harstem. Honestly I hope so, because every little thing I've seen so far from Stormgate was super-generic and didn't exactly scream "the next best thing". As for AoE: There is not much money to get in AoE IV and while it is somewhat easy to break through the higher ranks in AoE II, basically everything that happens offline is in Europe. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15880 Posts
On March 04 2023 21:22 Balnazza wrote: I think some pros are a bit more involved with the game, like Harstem. Honestly I hope so, because every little thing I've seen so far from Stormgate was super-generic and didn't exactly scream "the next best thing". As for AoE: There is not much money to get in AoE IV and while it is somewhat easy to break through the higher ranks in AoE II, basically everything that happens offline is in Europe. True but there's little reason to assume there will be more money in Stormgate | ||
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2429 Posts
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Glorfindelio
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2429 Posts
On March 04 2023 21:32 Charoisaur wrote: True but there's little reason to assume there will be more money in Stormgate There must be a thinking that Stormgate will exhibit the similar gaming experience they have in Sc2 so that they won't need much time to study or practice. During the time when Sc2 start launching, the pre-existing Broodwar player transitioned to Sc2 part time or full time, then the new generation player like Maru come in making the pool of talents diversifies. Money starts pouring in as many come to view the tournaments. So, I don't blame that some of them may think these can happen again in Stormgate era later after glimpse hope in Sc2 recently. | ||
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Crocolisk Dundee
870 Posts
Best of luck in the military. I will cheer for you should you decide to return to a progaming career. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15880 Posts
On March 04 2023 22:34 swarminfestor wrote: There must be a thinking that Stormgate will exhibit the similar gaming experience they have in Sc2 so that they won't need much time to study or practice. During the time when Sc2 start launching, the pre-existing Broodwar player transitioned to Sc2 part time or full time, then the new generation player like Maru come in making the pool of talents diversifies. Money starts pouring in as many come to view the tournaments. So, I don't blame that some of them may think these can happen again in Stormgate era later after glimpse hope in Sc2 recently. The difference is that back then RTS games were popular. Today they are just not and I just don't see the same hype happening for Stormgate. Very likely it will be only played by current SC2/WC3/BW players of whom many will switch back to their old game after trying it a bit. | ||
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aringadingding
474 Posts
And also. Damn!.... | ||
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Monochromatic
United States991 Posts
On March 05 2023 00:55 Charoisaur wrote: The difference is that back then RTS games were popular. Today they are just not and I just don't see the same hype happening for Stormgate. Very likely it will be only played by current SC2/WC3/BW players of whom many will switch back to their old game after trying it a bit. I agree with you - there's no way Stormgate gets anywhere near the same amount of hype as SC2. I do not see it being a viable replacement to SC2 as an esport (what advantage does it have that SC2 didn't have?). I think Zoun is dead on in saying that the same people who dominate today will dominate Stormgate. I'm sure they've budgeted for at least a year of professional esports in their business plan, so there will be plenty of money in the scene. I just don't see a market of viewers who shun Starcraft but are open to Stormgate. | ||
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ExpatRights
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QOGQOG
828 Posts
On March 12 2023 20:10 ExpatRights wrote: stormgate is gonna suck because all the 'fans' are sc2 people who hate any kind of change, and the devs are too, it's gonna be super generic and boring without any of the interesting IP I am very dubious of Stormgate, but I'm not sure about how it's both going to fail due to making changes while also failing due to being totally generic. Sad to see Zoun heading off without any sort of big victory, but a couple Super Tournament runners up has to count for something. | ||
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oneill12
Romania1222 Posts
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TheDougler
Canada8302 Posts
However, there are some advantages it has that SC2 didn't: 1. A bigger emphasis on casual play to create a larger audience from the ground up. Including not having the GOD AWFUL arcade system that was the only available way to do SC2 custom games at launch, which I think really held the game back. 2. A plan to funnel a portion of players from less competitive formats to more competitive formats. I think this is brilliant, and it's something that other successful franchises such as MTG do very well. 3. A co-op mode that is designed by people who have experience with the format. I actually think that this is the thing most likely to save Stormgate. Monk knows what he's doing with co-op, and co-op was possibly SC2's most played game mode after the game went free to play, which was after a bunch of systems to make co-op more enjoyable and increase replayability were added (prestiges, mastery, more maps, more commanders). 4. Less lethality meaning more room for error, which is more fun for noobs and pros alike, which I think was an advantage that WC3 and SCBW had that SC2 didn't especially at first. You can see interview after interview of Korean pros, especially after the Kespa transition, that points to this fact. Basically, SC2 design seemed mostly top-down: Blizzard wanted it to be an esport and designed it with that in mind, whereas Stormgate is explicitly being designed from the bottom up, with an emphasis on growing the player base first, and then supporting the competitive scene as it develops, not before. | ||
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-NegativeZero-
United States2141 Posts
On March 12 2023 20:10 ExpatRights wrote: stormgate is gonna suck because all the 'fans' are sc2 people who hate any kind of change, and the devs are too, it's gonna be super generic and boring without any of the interesting IP Starcraft is already a super generic sci-fi setting. Humans vs aliens vs hive-mind swarm - might as well be UNSC vs Covenant vs Flood. The main thing the IP has going for it is the name recognition. | ||
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