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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France11704 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-11-30 10:37:24
November 30 2022 10:36 GMT
#21
On November 30 2022 19:33 Drahkn wrote:
Can we put this " post military" meme to bed once and for all please?

Men can be in their physical prime even into their 40s in some cases if they stay in shape mentally and physically.

"I'm getting to old" is just some poor excuse guys make when they start loosing skill because they just cba to put in the same effort as they used to because they just don't have the same amount of passion they had when they were younger. It's not because they are physically or mentally unable to do so.

I'm 38 years old and still a have an average reaction speed of 176ms same as in my early 20s. I was never super gifted at multi tasking but it has not gotten any worse either.

As a guy gamer pushing 40 it is hard not to get annoyed ;D

It is not a meme though?
It is not only about age but also about the body being too worn out: it is very probable future KR / foreign esport players will last longer than the current pros because they will develop healthy habits from better knowledge (ie. staff / medic etc) from an earlier age.
But at this point the current gen of pros players kinda destroyed their body some way or another more than they could have I am willing to bet.
It is similar as in MMA: if you have a 30yo guy with no MMA experience, his body will be considered "fresher" for the sport than that of a 25yo who started competing at 19yo.

So even if technically you could play at 20yo level in your 30s as a progamer, the current generation probably won't have that luxury (imho, I could be totally wrong about this subject)
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Drahkn
Profile Joined June 2021
107 Posts
November 30 2022 12:07 GMT
#22
On November 30 2022 19:36 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2022 19:33 Drahkn wrote:
Can we put this " post military" meme to bed once and for all please?

Men can be in their physical prime even into their 40s in some cases if they stay in shape mentally and physically.

"I'm getting to old" is just some poor excuse guys make when they start loosing skill because they just cba to put in the same effort as they used to because they just don't have the same amount of passion they had when they were younger. It's not because they are physically or mentally unable to do so.

I'm 38 years old and still a have an average reaction speed of 176ms same as in my early 20s. I was never super gifted at multi tasking but it has not gotten any worse either.

As a guy gamer pushing 40 it is hard not to get annoyed ;D

It is not a meme though?
It is not only about age but also about the body being too worn out: it is very probable future KR / foreign esport players will last longer than the current pros because they will develop healthy habits from better knowledge (ie. staff / medic etc) from an earlier age.
But at this point the current gen of pros players kinda destroyed their body some way or another more than they could have I am willing to bet.
It is similar as in MMA: if you have a 30yo guy with no MMA experience, his body will be considered "fresher" for the sport than that of a 25yo who started competing at 19yo.

So even if technically you could play at 20yo level in your 30s as a progamer, the current generation probably won't have that luxury (imho, I could be totally wrong about this subject)




No it is not about being worn out, what people say is they are 2 slow, cant concentrate the same and can't be competitive because of it , it has nothing to do with ailments as a result of wear and tear. Some people have bad wrists but that is not age related , they are just more prone to wrist injury.

As for MMA, many MMA fighters hit their prime in their late 30s and have been fighting most of their life.


Also what is a meme? An image, video, piece of text, etc., typically humorous in nature, that is copied and spread rapidly by internet users, often with slight variations.



In SC:BNW/2 terms the post military , you are to old to dominate again is 100% a meme.

In other e sports you have the age reference quite a lot as well in different ways.


While I am 38 and I will probably feel it soon, when I hear people not even 30 talking about being to old to compete in e-sports I is frustrating to listen 2



dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
760 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-11-30 19:04:20
November 30 2022 19:03 GMT
#23
On November 30 2022 19:33 Drahkn wrote:
Can we put this " post military" meme to bed once and for all please?

Men can be in their physical prime even into their 40s in some cases if they stay in shape mentally and physically.

"I'm getting to old" is just some poor excuse guys make when they start loosing skill because they just cba to put in the same effort as they used to because they just don't have the same amount of passion they had when they were younger. It's not because they are physically or mentally unable to do so.

I'm 38 years old and still a have an average reaction speed of 176ms same as in my early 20s. I was never super gifted at multi tasking but it has not gotten any worse either.

As a guy gamer pushing 40 it is hard not to get annoyed ;D

I think it's wrong to talk about post-military as an age issue, it's more a lost practice issue. Losing 1.5 years of practice in a game as mechanical as SC2 is a huge issue no matter your age. I imagine younger pros who took 1.5 years completely off would also struggle to bounce back.
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Moonerz
Profile Joined March 2014
United States336 Posts
December 01 2022 00:41 GMT
#24
Its also just as you get older there is other priorities in your life, not just grinding games.

Though I also do believe the current sc2 scene is far more conducive to older players being able to compete. If team houses were still in full swing and you have these kids playing 10 hrs a day I just dont really feel like an older player would be able to keep up.
atchosvk
Profile Joined April 2018
53 Posts
December 12 2022 18:53 GMT
#25
Pretty much a miracle run, especially as he plays protoss. Hopefully the patch will bring up some balance and we will get to see more protosses at the highest level.
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