Sidenote: I am confused about the warning that tilhorizon got. Is the bad tone the reason? The contents are a bit hyperbolic but it is all clearly opinion without any personal attacks. tilhorizon is attacking a common argument, not any one poster. The tone is a bit aggressive, but not overly excessive. That shouldn't be enough of a reason unless tilhorizon has established a pattern and this post got warned as a cumulative result.
I'm assuming he got warned because of this:
but all this comentator talk about the big 3 is just stupid trash talk
I would put dark and hero ahead of clem, I think they stand a better chance of winning the tournament right now. Otherwise, this is pretty much spot on.
Since we don't have a thread yet, I'd just like to point out that NA has a 100% win rate vs EU in group stage 1. That some sweet sweet revenge from all those years of the fly in fly out European
On July 01 2022 21:29 Nakajin wrote: Since we don't have a thread yet, I'd just like to point out that NA has a 100% win rate vs EU in group stage 1. That some sweet sweet revenge from all those years of the fly in fly out European
Group stage 1 is so formidable that I don't even know all the players.
On July 01 2022 21:49 gleed wrote: I haven't been following the scene at all the past decade. Are non-koreans on an even footing with koreans now?|
Depends on who you ask Most would probably say that the top foreigners are even with top koreans. Some would say no and some others would even say the GOAT is non Korean
On July 01 2022 21:49 gleed wrote: I haven't been following the scene at all the past decade. Are non-koreans on an even footing with koreans now?|
pretty much due to all the retirements, military duty and also there being zero new blood in the korean scene. The korean scene probably still has way more depth but this depth is also shrinking rapidly
Sidenote: I am confused about the warning that tilhorizon got. .
i am confused as well , is it because i have a different opinion than the writer ? or was any word i sayd on some kind of a ban list i dont know
Any “negative” post about terrans gets a very short leash here on TL
Meanwhile shitpost on Zergs and protoss usually gets no warnings
MarinoSC constant shitpost about Reynor vs Maru 2 years about was a perfect example. In summary he was talking so much trash and shitted reynor when Maru was up 2-0. Then he went on suicide watch once reynor won 3-2
On July 01 2022 23:18 MarianoSC2 wrote: My rank would be: Reynor, Maru, Dark, herO, Clem, Heromarine, Bunny, Neeb, Ragnarok, Creator
some may not agree but this is a list you could work with its reasonable and maybe just slightly off
but putting clem on 3 , is , how do i put it , i try not to get warned again , so i try to use only nice words by all respect a professionell powerrank should reflect what is most likely true, what will be the most likely outcome what is most logical backed by data and past results ,not personal preferences
clem on 3 when you check his offline records when you check how he is doing vs koreans in similar tournaments and compare that to dark how on lovely earth could you put him in front of dark the bookmakers dont want to lose money dark is way ahead alligulac not perfect but a indicator agrees also on a possible h2h outcome history agrees
if you make a list with all the players in valencia ,if all of them have to face clem and dark the most likely outcome will be that dark wins more games than clem it has nothing to do with disrespect just beeing objectiv
i wonder why sc2 casters ore powerrank makers almost never check with bookmakers and ignore past results statistics and propable outcome imagine a football game when you ask the reporter who will be favorite who will most likely win normaly thay say what the bookmakers say like in almost any other sport , but not in sc2
On July 02 2022 01:37 CicadaSC wrote: no neeb on this list? I think he will win the tournament honestly. his condition is kind of scarily good right now.
If by "win the tournament" you mean "get eliminated in the group stages," sure. I mean seriously, have you seen his performance in any international tournament of late? He's not even the NA player with the best chance.
Edit: okay, my Neeb hate was misplaced. But I still don't think he's anywhere near being a title contender.
On July 01 2022 23:18 MarianoSC2 wrote: My rank would be: Reynor, Maru, Dark, herO, Clem, Heromarine, Bunny, Neeb, Ragnarok, Creator
some may not agree but this is a list you could work with its reasonable and maybe just slightly off
but putting clem on 3 , is , how do i put it , i try not to get warned again , so i try to use only nice words by all respect a professionell powerrank should reflect what is most likely true, what will be the most likely outcome what is most logical backed by data and past results ,not personal preferences
clem on 3 when you check his offline records when you check how he is doing vs koreans in similar tournaments and compare that to dark how on lovely earth could you put him in front of dark the bookmakers dont want to lose money dark is way ahead alligulac not perfect but a indicator agrees also on a possible h2h outcome history agrees
if you make a list with all the players in valencia ,if all of them have to face clem and dark the most likely outcome will be that dark wins more games than clem it has nothing to do with disrespect just beeing objectiv
i wonder why sc2 casters ore powerrank makers almost never check with bookmakers and ignore past results statistics and propable outcome imagine a football game when you ask the reporter who will be favorite who will most likely win normaly thay say what the bookmakers say like in almost any other sport , but not in sc2
I mean I agree with Dark > Clem but it's definitely not as clear as you seem to think, I think both opinions are legitimate. Clem doesn't have the best track record with international tournaments but we know his skill is right up there and does reputation / track record in a particular tournament circuit really hold a higher value than current skill level? It's definitely arguable.
Btw herO also hasn't shown the track record of being able to perform in premier tournaments since his return
On July 02 2022 04:37 StaNi wrote: Can someone tell me where is Serral? What happened to him?
He didn't get an automatic invite because he got knocked out of a tournament too early, then he chose not to participate via open qualifiers, citing "personal reasons". He did say he still plans on participating in the rest of the major tournaments throughout the year.
EPT
