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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24971 Posts
July 02 2022 01:36 GMT
#41
Dark looked god tier in GSL Ro10, I’d promote him based on that

I’ve no real quibbles though, there’s a lot of question marks with various players. Can herO get his first big result since military? Can Clem transfer his EU results to the international sphere? Etc etc
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 02 2022 02:58 GMT
#42
If Reynor becomes a top 10 player with his P can we put him twice on future lists (One Z one P)?
uselless
Profile Joined April 2021
92 Posts
July 02 2022 03:53 GMT
#43
On July 02 2022 08:30 mark_lenders wrote:
After day 1 i would never put Solar and Byun in the top 10. Ragnarok and Neeb deserve to be there

I tried to maintain impartiality to day 1 results, but I'd agree about Ragnarok and Neeb. I think DRG manages to keep his spot even though he lost to Ragnarok, because his wins against ShoWTimE should boot the protoss from the top 10.
maru :D
warnull
Profile Joined February 2016
United States280 Posts
July 02 2022 06:04 GMT
#44
I think this power ranking could have been better if it extended to the top 16 or 24 players.

People have strong opinions about their favorite players or rivals, and love to argue about whether player X is top Y. The longer the list, the more ink spilled over it. Win-win-win for everyone.
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1569 Posts
July 03 2022 01:06 GMT
#45
On July 02 2022 01:50 QOGQOG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2022 01:37 CicadaSC wrote:
no neeb on this list? I think he will win the tournament honestly. his condition is kind of scarily good right now.

If by "win the tournament" you mean "get eliminated in the group stages," sure. I mean seriously, have you seen his performance in any international tournament of late? He's not even the NA player with the best chance.

Edit: okay, my Neeb hate was misplaced. But I still don't think he's anywhere near being a title contender.


How about now?
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
Starcloud
Profile Joined September 2018
137 Posts
July 03 2022 01:44 GMT
#46
The only right and final list is;

10. Neeb
9. Bunny
8. Ragnarok
7. Clem
6. HeroMarine
5. hero
4. Dark
3. Maru
2. Serral
1. Raynor

User was warned for this post.
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
July 03 2022 02:02 GMT
#47
On July 03 2022 10:44 Starcloud wrote:
The only right and final list is;

10. Neeb
9. Bunny
8. Ragnarok
7. Clem
6. HeroMarine
5. hero
4. Dark
3. Maru
2. Serral
1. Raynor


Your power list contains a player who didn't participate in the tournament, so I don't know about "right and final". Of course, I suppose this may just be your own personal list of top 10 players that excludes Rogue... shrug
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13972 Posts
July 03 2022 02:03 GMT
#48
On July 03 2022 10:06 CicadaSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2022 01:50 QOGQOG wrote:
On July 02 2022 01:37 CicadaSC wrote:
no neeb on this list? I think he will win the tournament honestly. his condition is kind of scarily good right now.

If by "win the tournament" you mean "get eliminated in the group stages," sure. I mean seriously, have you seen his performance in any international tournament of late? He's not even the NA player with the best chance.

Edit: okay, my Neeb hate was misplaced. But I still don't think he's anywhere near being a title contender.


How about now?

Yes, let's use the current tournament to judge where to put neeb on the pretournament list. Upsets happen. Neeb hasn't performed recently.
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sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-03 02:07:12
July 03 2022 02:06 GMT
#49
Double post sorry
Year of MaxPax
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1569 Posts
July 03 2022 06:23 GMT
#50
On July 03 2022 11:03 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2022 10:06 CicadaSC wrote:
On July 02 2022 01:50 QOGQOG wrote:
On July 02 2022 01:37 CicadaSC wrote:
no neeb on this list? I think he will win the tournament honestly. his condition is kind of scarily good right now.

If by "win the tournament" you mean "get eliminated in the group stages," sure. I mean seriously, have you seen his performance in any international tournament of late? He's not even the NA player with the best chance.

Edit: okay, my Neeb hate was misplaced. But I still don't think he's anywhere near being a title contender.


How about now?

Yes, let's use the current tournament to judge where to put neeb on the pretournament list. Upsets happen. Neeb hasn't performed recently.

i said this before the current tournament?
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3453 Posts
July 03 2022 11:45 GMT
#51
On July 03 2022 15:23 CicadaSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2022 11:03 Cricketer12 wrote:
On July 03 2022 10:06 CicadaSC wrote:
On July 02 2022 01:50 QOGQOG wrote:
On July 02 2022 01:37 CicadaSC wrote:
no neeb on this list? I think he will win the tournament honestly. his condition is kind of scarily good right now.

If by "win the tournament" you mean "get eliminated in the group stages," sure. I mean seriously, have you seen his performance in any international tournament of late? He's not even the NA player with the best chance.

Edit: okay, my Neeb hate was misplaced. But I still don't think he's anywhere near being a title contender.


How about now?

Yes, let's use the current tournament to judge where to put neeb on the pretournament list. Upsets happen. Neeb hasn't performed recently.

i said this before the current tournament?

Yeah still neeb is so hard to judge result wise as he mostly plays NA and maybe some open cups sometimes and in NA there are just scarlett and astrea to judge him by.
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1569 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-03 12:25:38
July 03 2022 12:25 GMT
#52
On July 03 2022 20:45 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2022 15:23 CicadaSC wrote:
On July 03 2022 11:03 Cricketer12 wrote:
On July 03 2022 10:06 CicadaSC wrote:
On July 02 2022 01:50 QOGQOG wrote:
On July 02 2022 01:37 CicadaSC wrote:
no neeb on this list? I think he will win the tournament honestly. his condition is kind of scarily good right now.

If by "win the tournament" you mean "get eliminated in the group stages," sure. I mean seriously, have you seen his performance in any international tournament of late? He's not even the NA player with the best chance.

Edit: okay, my Neeb hate was misplaced. But I still don't think he's anywhere near being a title contender.


How about now?

Yes, let's use the current tournament to judge where to put neeb on the pretournament list. Upsets happen. Neeb hasn't performed recently.

i said this before the current tournament?

Yeah still neeb is so hard to judge result wise as he mostly plays NA and maybe some open cups sometimes and in NA there are just scarlett and astrea to judge him by.

i'll agree he's hard to judge, but he clean sweeped open cup and 3-0d byun just before this. his form is nutty. rip his run tho creator played well and clutched that ^^
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
July 03 2022 16:01 GMT
#53
On July 03 2022 10:06 CicadaSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2022 01:50 QOGQOG wrote:
On July 02 2022 01:37 CicadaSC wrote:
no neeb on this list? I think he will win the tournament honestly. his condition is kind of scarily good right now.

If by "win the tournament" you mean "get eliminated in the group stages," sure. I mean seriously, have you seen his performance in any international tournament of late? He's not even the NA player with the best chance.

Edit: okay, my Neeb hate was misplaced. But I still don't think he's anywhere near being a title contender.


How about now?

Now he absolutely did not win the tournament and didn't get anywhere close. Even if he'd beaten Creator, Maru or Reynor would have absolutely destroyed him. Sure, I underestimated him a little, but you overestimated him quite a lot. He's not a title contender until he, you know, contends for a title.
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