competitive play issues - Page 13

I've just read through this entire thread. A lot of interesting points brought up. Let me remind everyone that this discussion is not JUST about MBS and automining. It's about making these features a setting that can only be used in public games. Thus keeping the good people still able to compete in the manner they did in the original SC

You can break all sports into two basic parts: The strategic element and the physical aspect

there is incredible strategy weaved within all sports: baseball, soccer, football, tennis, racket ball, boxing, wrestling, starcraft etc

SC2 has less of a physical aspect than SC. They've turned baseball into tee ball. That ball is a lot easier to hit when it isn't moving huh? Well maybe one fun part of the game was the challenge of hitting a moving ball. As we all know, baseball > tee ball as far as skill and competition goes. But making a game that requires less dexterity (lower apm) they are reducing physical aspect which made the original starcraft so fucking awsome.

Let me use another sport, this time with pictures:

Starcraft as golf


Starcraft 2 turned into minature golf due to MBS and auto mining.


Before you respond to this, look at your keyboard. Does it have missing keys?... like the windows ones? You might not even be playing starcraft correctly... This is what mine looks like:



At the bare minimum do you have your windows keys missing? are you using your entire keyboard when you play (i'm talking about the keys that actually work in sc)? Do you bind all the number keys when you play?... from 1 to 0? do you know every hotkey for your race? I mean everything--from special upgrades to unit hot keys. Do you use all five fingers? Do you know which fingers to use on which keys? Most starcraft players don't. Even the die hard ones. They spend too much time looking at the screen and less time looking at their hands. There's a reason why those koreans have such high apm. I just want that same feel in the new starcraft. I'll be sad if new players pick up starcraft 2 and start laddering with the computer playing the game for them. This is essentially the autocast of macroing.

Again, i only care about this for ladder/competitive play. If you want your buildings all bound to one key and your probes going to minerals the second they get out--fine, but don't expect to be a progamer. Don't expect to be the best. MBS and auto mining deter from the very elements that make the game competitive.

What about all these progamers, people who devoted their lives to starcraft, mastering these skills and falling in love with them. MBS and automining is a spit in the face for these people, the ones who know the game far better than Blizzard does. Blizzard should be building off what made the game successful, not "fixing" it. I can only assume that Blizzard wants MBS to bring a new type of macro into starcraft. However that macro type seems to be a much slower, much easier one. One that involves less apm and less concentration. One that is centered around memorizing when different unit combos are coming up and then rebinding gateways accordingly. Hmm... Should be quite easy to master with the computer making sure my probes mine for me when they pop out.

Again, if you don't like the difficulty and demanding dexterity of starcraft then that's fine. But don't fuck up Starcraft because this game was too hard for you. Play another game. Keep MBS and automining as a setting and keep it out of the esports scene.