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Super Tournament #3 - Semifinal bracket set (2021)

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TL.net ESPORTS
Profile Joined July 2011
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-30 21:18:07
November 30 2021 17:39 GMT
#1

(Wiki)2021 AfreecaTV GSL Super Tournament 3

The final day of Super Tournament 3 looks to be a Terran vs Zerg extravaganza, with (Wiki)Cure vs (Wiki)Rogue and (Wiki)Solar vs (Wiki)Maru being set as our semifinal matches.

The Super Tournament will conclude on Thursday, Dec 02 8:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) with the semifinals and grand finals, bringing an end to the 2021 GSL season.

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The quarterfinal matches came up on the cheesy side, starting with (Wiki)Rogue and his 3-1 victory over (Wiki)Dark. The first map on Blackburn was quite the spectacle, with Rogue no-scout countering Dark's fast gold expansion with his own gold expansion... directly behind Dark's own gold minerals! Yet, despite destroying Dark's fast gold base with Spine Crawlers from his proxy-hatch/expansion, it took Rogue quite a while to close the game out. Dark somehow forced Rogue into a 20+ minute macro game before finally tapping out due to the resource disadvantage. The rest of the games in the series were rather quick and one-sided, with the success or failure of all-ins determining the victor.

(Wiki)Cure vs (Wiki)Trap picked up where their GSL semifinals series left off, with proxy-tactics figuring heavily on both sides. Still, not all the games were directly decided by who got a leg up in the early mind-games, and Cure took his 3-1 victory with all-around superior play. All-in-all, it was a series that once again reminded us of how different GSL matches and all other tournament matches can look.

Is the wife-buff for real? With his wife in attendance for his second straight match (the AfreecaTV studio recently opened back up), (Wiki)Solar took his second 3-0 sweep of the tournament against (Wiki)Zoun. No Queen-walks were required to defeat the 2-Stargate style, as Solar overpowered Zoun with great control of his Viper-Brood Lord-Hydra swarm in one game, and with Muta-Corruptor in another. Zoun tried to throw in one of his oft-used strategies in [Disruptor-drop -> Colossus all-in], but Solar was perfect on defense as well.

Finally, (Wiki)Maru took his expected 3-0 sweep over (Wiki)herO, but the DPG Protoss did manage to keep Maru on his toes with a variety of unorthodox openers. Despite herO's intent to flummox Maru early, the most memorable game of the series was a 30+ minute split-map war. Having given up the smallest of early leads to herO on Glittering Ashes, Maru seemed to think 'f*** it' and switched to all-out turtle mode. As is most often the case when Maru turtles, his opponent couldn't find a way to unlock the Terran defenses and was eventually worn down.
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Elantris
Profile Joined June 2018
66 Posts
November 30 2021 17:55 GMT
#2
toss op btw
KarlSiegt
Profile Joined December 2011
Italy35 Posts
November 30 2021 18:16 GMT
#3
Protoss good race.
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tommey.liang
Profile Joined November 2020
United States362 Posts
November 30 2021 18:26 GMT
#4
When did Solar get married?! Congrats to Kang Min-Soo on tying the knot with his forever love. That could be why his play has been phenomenal so far in this tournament. Wonder if he can pull off the upset vs. The Fourth Race.

Was expecting Trap to at least make it to the semis, but he's been in a bit of a slump the past two months.

Predicting for Rogue and Maru to advance.
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
November 30 2021 20:28 GMT
#5
Trap is a shaky player even when he's winning, and did anyone ACTUALLY think that herO had a chance in hell vs Maru? I mean seriously? He barely came back from the military and Maru is on one of the most dominant streaks he's ever had.

Zoun vs Solar was unexpected to be a 3-0 IMO, but Solar is a really good player and Zoun isn't that great vs Zerg in the first place.

It's not game balance that's causing these outcomes. It's a lack of actually good Protoss players, especially in Korea, especially with Parting leaving.

The well of talent in Korea is not very strong right now since most of the most skilled upcoming players are playing other games. So if we want to see a resurgence of new talent playing Protoss it has to come from Europe or North America. Either that, or we wait for the players that just came back like Classic and herO to get their skill back.
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CaRn1FeX
Profile Joined January 2003
Germany203 Posts
November 30 2021 21:46 GMT
#6
This is why I basically stopped playing SC2
coolguy_704
Profile Joined May 2020
5 Posts
December 01 2021 02:53 GMT
#7
Man, protoss is really struggling right now. Looks like this is Maru's tournament to lose. I think we see him 3-0 Solar. Cure v Rogue should be a wild Bo5
Huzure38
Profile Joined December 2018
1 Post
December 01 2021 05:22 GMT
#8
On December 01 2021 05:28 Vindicare605 wrote:
Trap is a shaky player even when he's winning, and did anyone ACTUALLY think that herO had a chance in hell vs Maru? I mean seriously? He barely came back from the military and Maru is on one of the most dominant streaks he's ever had.

Zoun vs Solar was unexpected to be a 3-0 IMO, but Solar is a really good player and Zoun isn't that great vs Zerg in the first place.

It's not game balance that's causing these outcomes. It's a lack of actually good Protoss players, especially in Korea, especially with Parting leaving.

The well of talent in Korea is not very strong right now since most of the most skilled upcoming players are playing other games. So if we want to see a resurgence of new talent playing Protoss it has to come from Europe or North America. Either that, or we wait for the players that just came back like Classic and herO to get their skill back.

I think Zoun's PvZ is very strong still. But to be very strong, that doesn't mean he will always win in every match against top KR Zerg because everyone would keep playing with each other and be able to read their playstyles. Zoun vs Solar was actually super close in head-to-head record too. Last time before Super Tournament, Zoun dismantled Solar 0-2 in NEXT, but then got avenged in Super Tournament. While Zoun is at the top, everyone else is also at the top as well. It's never an easy fight.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4495 Posts
December 01 2021 06:16 GMT
#9
The toss golden years continue. Maru looking dominant as ever.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
December 01 2021 09:42 GMT
#10
On December 01 2021 15:16 FataLe wrote:
The toss golden years continue. Maru looking dominant as ever.

You do realize that after 2020 this year is actually a great year for Protoss? Did you miss the first half?
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Elantris
Profile Joined June 2018
66 Posts
December 01 2021 14:54 GMT
#11
On December 01 2021 18:42 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2021 15:16 FataLe wrote:
The toss golden years continue. Maru looking dominant as ever.

You do realize that after 2020 this year is actually a great year for Protoss? Did you miss the first half?


You say protoss but it's actually just Trap.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
December 01 2021 17:36 GMT
#12
On December 01 2021 23:54 Elantris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2021 18:42 deacon.frost wrote:
On December 01 2021 15:16 FataLe wrote:
The toss golden years continue. Maru looking dominant as ever.

You do realize that after 2020 this year is actually a great year for Protoss? Did you miss the first half?


You say protoss but it's actually just Trap.

Ah, we count only victories and not 2nd places(e.g.). That makes sense, because why bother to the finals if you lose them, damn losers. (FYI Zoun didn't have a bad year either)
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Elantris
Profile Joined June 2018
66 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-01 18:10:08
December 01 2021 18:09 GMT
#13
You know what they say, the winner takes it all.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4400 Posts
December 01 2021 19:23 GMT
#14
I agree that Protoss actually had a great first half of the year (and it wasn't just Trap) but if you just look at the last 5-6 major international events there's no denying they are doing terrible across the board right now. Code S season 3 was the only good event for Protoss since like July or August and they still lost. This is definitely the worst any race has done in a string of events since Terran in 2019. It could just be a blip but I doubt it. It seems like Zerg has just figured the matchup out.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
December 01 2021 19:37 GMT
#15
On December 02 2021 04:23 JJH777 wrote:
I agree that Protoss actually had a great first half of the year (and it wasn't just Trap) but if you just look at the last 5-6 major international events there's no denying they are doing terrible across the board right now. Code S season 3 was the only good event for Protoss since like July or August and they still lost. This is definitely the worst any race has done in a string of events since Terran in 2019. It could just be a blip but I doubt it. It seems like Zerg has just figured the matchup out.


It could also be a maps issue. That's the thing that always gets forgotten in the SC2 community.
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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10055 Posts
December 02 2021 01:31 GMT
#16
agree
On December 01 2021 05:28 Vindicare605 wrote:
Trap is a shaky player even when he's winning, and did anyone ACTUALLY think that herO had a chance in hell vs Maru? I mean seriously? He barely came back from the military and Maru is on one of the most dominant streaks he's ever had.

Zoun vs Solar was unexpected to be a 3-0 IMO, but Solar is a really good player and Zoun isn't that great vs Zerg in the first place.



Rogue vs Dark was pretty cool too. Blackburn was a sick surprise in how it went thanks to Rogue. And Cure TvP was great.
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
December 02 2021 04:20 GMT
#17
Rogue vs Dark is always a good match. But it's a ZvZ so people rarely talk about them.
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FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4495 Posts
December 02 2021 05:07 GMT
#18
On December 01 2021 18:42 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2021 15:16 FataLe wrote:
The toss golden years continue. Maru looking dominant as ever.

You do realize that after 2020 this year is actually a great year for Protoss? Did you miss the first half?

Emphasis on years deacon, years. As in multiple.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-02 14:24:38
December 02 2021 14:21 GMT
#19
On December 02 2021 14:07 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2021 18:42 deacon.frost wrote:
On December 01 2021 15:16 FataLe wrote:
The toss golden years continue. Maru looking dominant as ever.

You do realize that after 2020 this year is actually a great year for Protoss? Did you miss the first half?

Emphasis on years deacon, years. As in multiple.

if you insist on YEARS, MUTLIPLE, then do your research.

Between Rogues Blizzcon and november 2020(that's when I stopped updating my sheet according to windows)
Zerg won 32 premiers, Protoss 8, Terran 13. Protoss is the weakest, right? Well, let's check 2nd places, Zerg 19, Terran 11, Protoss 23.

So, in that time slot, MULTIPLE YEARS, Zerg has 51 representatives in the finals, Terran 24, Protoss 31. But somehow PROTOSS HAS THE WORST!!!#!!!

Let's check personal statistics, if you remove the most winning Zerg of that phase(Serral, 13 titles), Zerg still has the most titles - 19 and with 38 they still have the biggest representation in the finals. While If you remove Maru(7) suddenly you get 6 Terran titles(oh noez) and 18 Terrans in the finals.

Compare that to Protoss from those MULTIPLE YEARS who don't have anyone who you could call a statistic outlier like Maru or Serral.

So yes, 2020 was a bad year for Protoss, yes, singular, yes Protoss didn't had such bad representation in the finals.

I wonder if I added up the missing tourneys how bad it would look for Terran, especially without Maru.

Edit> And yes, as long as everybody insists that NA is a premier tournaments number wise it will be skewed and I am really lazy to remove Astrea and Neeb from the equation, especially since Scarlett has good runs there too.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4495 Posts
December 04 2021 01:13 GMT
#20
On December 02 2021 23:21 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2021 14:07 FataLe wrote:
On December 01 2021 18:42 deacon.frost wrote:
On December 01 2021 15:16 FataLe wrote:
The toss golden years continue. Maru looking dominant as ever.

You do realize that after 2020 this year is actually a great year for Protoss? Did you miss the first half?

Emphasis on years deacon, years. As in multiple.

if you insist on YEARS, MUTLIPLE, then do your research.

Between Rogues Blizzcon and november 2020(that's when I stopped updating my sheet according to windows)
Zerg won 32 premiers, Protoss 8, Terran 13. Protoss is the weakest, right? Well, let's check 2nd places, Zerg 19, Terran 11, Protoss 23.

So, in that time slot, MULTIPLE YEARS, Zerg has 51 representatives in the finals, Terran 24, Protoss 31. But somehow PROTOSS HAS THE WORST!!!#!!!

Let's check personal statistics, if you remove the most winning Zerg of that phase(Serral, 13 titles), Zerg still has the most titles - 19 and with 38 they still have the biggest representation in the finals. While If you remove Maru(7) suddenly you get 6 Terran titles(oh noez) and 18 Terrans in the finals.

Compare that to Protoss from those MULTIPLE YEARS who don't have anyone who you could call a statistic outlier like Maru or Serral.

So yes, 2020 was a bad year for Protoss, yes, singular, yes Protoss didn't had such bad representation in the finals.

I wonder if I added up the missing tourneys how bad it would look for Terran, especially without Maru.

Edit> And yes, as long as everybody insists that NA is a premier tournaments number wise it will be skewed and I am really lazy to remove Astrea and Neeb from the equation, especially since Scarlett has good runs there too.

I think you made my point for me. I'm more of a wins matter most type of guy. So I'll happily say it for you again, the Toss golden years continue.
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