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Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-11 16:59:52
August 11 2007 16:57 GMT
#21
On August 12 2007 01:15 NeoIllusions wrote:
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On August 12 2007 01:11 [X]Ken~D wrote:
Does anyone know why this feature was taken out of WC3?

It add a lot to BW, so I thought it was strange that they taken it out in WC3.


In a gist, watching reps on b.net adds to server stress.

Can you elaborate, please? I find that hard to believe. I don't see why a replay should be any more "stressful" than any other private game.

Personally, being able to watch replays together with friends online makes them a lot more enjoyable. Even though you don't get as much information, SC's replay system is easily superior to WC3's replay system because of this. Besides, thanks to 3rd party programs like Penguin Plug (before it stopped working in 1.15), we could see stuff like what the players were clicking on, and we had replays where all the in-game text was saved. So I'd be surprised if these features were somehow incompatible with viewing replays online with other people.

Like Ken~D, I really have no idea why this feature had to be removed from WC3. I mean, they already had observers as a feature for games (which I assume SC2 will have as well ). So if multiple people were watching a replay, I imagine they could've been treated as observers (in contrast to SC1 which treats them as players, which is why we're limited to 2 replay-viewing slots for 2-player maps, e.g.). So I don't think it was a technical limitation in the game's programming.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 11 2007 17:07 GMT
#22
On August 12 2007 01:57 Bill307 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2007 01:15 NeoIllusions wrote:
On August 12 2007 01:11 [X]Ken~D wrote:
Does anyone know why this feature was taken out of WC3?

It add a lot to BW, so I thought it was strange that they taken it out in WC3.


In a gist, watching reps on b.net adds to server stress.

Can you elaborate, please? I find that hard to believe. I don't see why a replay should be any more "stressful" than any other private game.

Personally, being able to watch replays together with friends online makes them a lot more enjoyable. Even though you don't get as much information, SC's replay system is easily superior to WC3's replay system because of this. Besides, thanks to 3rd party programs like Penguin Plug (before it stopped working in 1.15), we could see stuff like what the players were clicking on, and we had replays where all the in-game text was saved. So I'd be surprised if these features were somehow incompatible with viewing replays online with other people.

Like Ken~D, I really have no idea why this feature had to be removed from WC3. I mean, they already had observers as a feature for games (which I assume SC2 will have as well ). So if multiple people were watching a replay, I imagine they could've been treated as observers (in contrast to SC1 which treats them as players, which is why we're limited to 2 replay-viewing slots for 2-player maps, e.g.). So I don't think it was a technical limitation in the game's programming.


I don't quite understand the technical problem with allowing replays for WC3 but this was the vague answer Blizzard gave a few years ago when RoC was first released. There was a shitload of people that urged Blizzard to implement b.net replay viewing but obviously that never enabled.

I do agree with you that watching reps with friends is worthwhile. It is a pity we might not be able to do so when SC2 comes out.
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SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-11 20:05:16
August 11 2007 20:03 GMT
#23
Worthwhile?!?

Come on, it's neccesary.
I don't even play for shit with my friends anymore cuz we get really into a intense 1v1 series often.
And the intensity is something a high mind can't handle.

However, in the last 2 years or so, most of my time on Bnet has been with replays with friends and big team games. I still consider myself a serious player and when the need arises I can get back into 1v1 grind mode, but there are other kinds of gamers out there and replay sharing is such a big part fo Bnet for me and I'm sure others.

On August 10 2007 13:43 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Omg...Thats why i still play BW to this day...Replays online...-.-...Watching ancient games with my friends...I still have the replay of my first game ever online -.-...I'm sad every time I watch it...


See? This is the kinda shit I relate with too. Man, I still wish I had my first replays, me and my friends (yes some of them have played this game with me for over 8 years) would fuckn cry laughin at some of our first "epic" games.
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