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Team NV announces Maru has a shoulder injury

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ZAWGURN
Profile Joined July 2018
96 Posts
December 10 2020 15:47 GMT
#1
Team NV official announcement.

Today, NVT's Bunny(T) qualified to DH 2020 Last chances but it has been a hard day for us to endure announce this statement. Team NV officially determined to announce that Cho Seong Ju (Maru,T) was injured in the shoulder with serious pain and he will be in the injury treatment period. Team NV will prepare to support connecting the specialized hospital to treat him and reducing financial burdens. Cho Seong Ju had appealed about his pain before entering the team and his physical condition is not good enough to continue the ordinary life. We, Team NV will not spare any support until Maru is in his best condition. Now, Team NV could not certain that Maru continue the remained matches of TSL6 but he would definitely participate in "Theatre of Dreams". at 18,Dec,2020. Thank you for reading this statement and we Team NV will do our best for Maru to recovery his condition as soon as fast.


Hopefully Maru can recover as fast as possible.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-10 15:54:50
December 10 2020 15:54 GMT
#2
Hope he takes it seriously. Too many of these sc2 players getting injured because it's such a demanding game but I feel that the physical science side of things hasn't caught up with it yet, so we have guys with a lot of drive mistreating their bodies and then not fully recovering.
ZAWGURN
Profile Joined July 2018
96 Posts
December 10 2020 15:58 GMT
#3
On December 11 2020 00:54 travis wrote:
Hope he takes it seriously. Too many of these sc2 players getting injured because it's such a demanding game but I feel that the physical science side of things hasn't caught up with it yet, so we have guys with a lot of drive mistreating their bodies and then not fully recovering.


Yeah, so many top terrans such as Maru and ByuN getting injured, either wrists or shoulders. I know PartinG has back issues too.
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Steelghost1
Profile Joined June 2019
43 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-10 16:18:37
December 10 2020 16:13 GMT
#4
I have a questionable theory which proposes that, because top Terran players have to focus in fights where tiny boxing selection commands are key to win (marine marauder splitting, individual reaper micro if you are Byun, etc), their wrist/hand and body movements tend to be more abrupt and tense than if we compare the kind of micro requirements players of other races have to make; for example, spellcasting is micro intensive but it does not require the player to manually box and split units.

If these players are training for several hours a day hundreds of days a year, these tiny differences in mouse movement styles pile up and in the long run create problems for Terran players like Taeja, Maru, Byun, etc...

Btw, I am not advocating for Terran superiority in any form over the other races. I am just pointing out that control requirements are different and they may explain why players of a certain race are better known to have hand, wrist or joint problems.
rogzardo_
Profile Joined October 2020
24 Posts
December 10 2020 16:21 GMT
#5
Damn. First the GOAT MVP, and now the runner-up GOAT Maru.
tommey.liang
Profile Joined November 2020
United States363 Posts
December 10 2020 16:34 GMT
#6
This is so sad to read; wonder if his shoulder injury can ever be completely healed. Wishing him a speedy recovery. Hope a physical therapist can alleviate the pain and get him back on the right track.

I was wondering on how he was doing given his recent performances after ASUS ROG Online 2020.

Time and time again we're seeing this kind of trend.. with Mvp, Taeja, now ByuN and Maru.
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SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
December 10 2020 16:35 GMT
#7
I fucking hate these injuries poor Maru
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Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-10 16:52:56
December 10 2020 16:41 GMT
#8
I hope he will recover and get well soon. Team NV being supportive is nice to ear.

I don't understand why he will play those "Theatre of Dreams" games of all games left for him to play, but I hope he will not overplay his hand (or shoulder...)
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ZAWGURN
Profile Joined July 2018
96 Posts
December 10 2020 16:58 GMT
#9
On December 11 2020 01:41 Serimek wrote:
I hope he will recover and get well soon. Team NV being supportive is nice to ear.

I don't understand why he will play those "Theatre of Dreams" games of all games left for him to play, but I hope he will not overplay his hand (or shoulder...)


(Wiki)Theatre of Dreams

Seems like it's a smaller event so he will have to exert himself less? It has a pretty sizeable prize pool though.
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swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2450 Posts
December 10 2020 17:09 GMT
#10
I am sad this happens to Maru and Byun. I pray for their fast recovery.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-10 17:24:00
December 10 2020 17:21 GMT
#11
On December 11 2020 01:13 Steelghost1 wrote:
I have a questionable theory which proposes that, because top Terran players have to focus in fights where tiny boxing selection commands are key to win (marine marauder splitting, individual reaper micro if you are Byun, etc), their wrist/hand and body movements tend to be more abrupt and tense than if we compare the kind of micro requirements players of other races have to make; for example, spellcasting is micro intensive but it does not require the player to manually box and split units.

If these players are training for several hours a day hundreds of days a year, these tiny differences in mouse movement styles pile up and in the long run create problems for Terran players like Taeja, Maru, Byun, etc...

Btw, I am not advocating for Terran superiority in any form over the other races. I am just pointing out that control requirements are different and they may explain why players of a certain race are better known to have hand, wrist or joint problems.

Sc2 Players of all races have had injurie related Problems, it s not just/mostly Terran.

Realy good to see Team NV taking care for their Players here.
Lets hope for Maru to recover as soon as possible
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
December 10 2020 17:25 GMT
#12
Sad to hear but expected given his recent results, and the pain displayed during KoB and other tournaments with facecam...
The Terran greats catch no break
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MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
December 10 2020 17:32 GMT
#13
I wonder how many injures would have been avoided if Blizzard had made mech viable on pro level 8 years ago.

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Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
December 10 2020 17:32 GMT
#14
Watching the Bunny vs Maru series was painful, didn't seem like the usual Maru. We have known about this issue for a long time but it doesn't make it less sad. Both Maru and ByuN har having serious problems and I hope somehow they can improve but it seems unlikely if they dont stop playing.
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ilax30
Profile Joined November 2019
720 Posts
December 10 2020 17:51 GMT
#15
On December 11 2020 02:21 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2020 01:13 Steelghost1 wrote:
I have a questionable theory which proposes that, because top Terran players have to focus in fights where tiny boxing selection commands are key to win (marine marauder splitting, individual reaper micro if you are Byun, etc), their wrist/hand and body movements tend to be more abrupt and tense than if we compare the kind of micro requirements players of other races have to make; for example, spellcasting is micro intensive but it does not require the player to manually box and split units.

If these players are training for several hours a day hundreds of days a year, these tiny differences in mouse movement styles pile up and in the long run create problems for Terran players like Taeja, Maru, Byun, etc...

Btw, I am not advocating for Terran superiority in any form over the other races. I am just pointing out that control requirements are different and they may explain why players of a certain race are better known to have hand, wrist or joint problems.

Sc2 Players of all races have had injurie related Problems, it s not just/mostly Terran.

Realy good to see Team NV taking care for their Players here.
Lets hope for Maru to recover as soon as possible


Eh, I agree players of all races can get injured, but there is a reason most of them are terran, there is no reason to look away. Ofc this is something that cant be fixed anymore, hope everyone recovers.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33592 Posts
December 10 2020 17:51 GMT
#16
Good to hear they're taking care of this sooner rather than later. Better miss some stuff now so he can get in shape for Katowice
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
December 10 2020 17:51 GMT
#17
On December 11 2020 02:32 MockHamill wrote:
I wonder how many injures would have been avoided if Blizzard had made mech viable on pro level 8 years ago.

Since it’s utterly boring to play and watch the game would probably be dead for real already
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
December 10 2020 17:57 GMT
#18
On December 11 2020 02:51 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2020 02:32 MockHamill wrote:
I wonder how many injures would have been avoided if Blizzard had made mech viable on pro level 8 years ago.

Since it’s utterly boring to play and watch the game would probably be dead for real already


So making mech viable would have, by killing the game, avoided a lot of Starcraft related injuries.
StaNi
Profile Joined June 2011
Ukraine54 Posts
December 10 2020 18:07 GMT
#19
Mvp, ByuN, now Maru
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
December 10 2020 18:19 GMT
#20
On December 11 2020 03:07 StaNi wrote:
Mvp, ByuN, now Maru


Wouldn't it be funny if they all recovered and turned up to GSL next year with rulers to measure their keyboard setups
maru G5L pls
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