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Nathanias
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xsnac
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StarStruck
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That is typical in sports. Just because you are a great player in another game doesn't mean you will be a great coach. In fact, more often than not it is the opposite. | ||
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Fildun
Netherlands4123 Posts
On November 04 2020 10:28 Nathanias wrote: Polt has always been a fantastic LoL player afaik. Dude is super smart and maybe didn't have the talent but certainly has the brains to be an interesting coaching component. Head coach is quite odd tho! He's currently Gold 2 on NA with a not insignificant amount of games, which is probably somewhere around Plat 2 in SC2. At the moment he for sure doesn't have the League skills, but he's obviously a talented learner. I do think someone like Polt with his history is a valuable addition to any team, but the head coach role seems maybe a bit too much for his first job of this type. | ||
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DavidBSantigo801
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Mverdo
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On November 04 2020 18:02 xsnac wrote: baffling mentality from TL community in this thread. What does coaching having to do with being a player? In all sports coaches never played at top level. Except from Zidane I don't know a top coach right now in football, what do you guys think when you say that it is surprising? Polt has a big brain, demands respect with his Diploma and is charismatic enough to be a tremendous coach in any sport, even better comparing his 1v1 achievements in esport that he could fit the coach role for any esport team. Quite a lot of coaches in football have been players themselves, to name a few: - Antonio Conte (played for juve, now coaches Inter Milan) - Solskjaer (played for Manchester United and coaches there) - Mourinho (played for some relatively smaller teams tbf) - Frank Lampard (coaches chelsea now) etc etc Actually quite hard to find a coach who never played as a professional. While I do agree that it is not necessary for a good coach to have been a good player, it's by far not unprecedented. A deep knowledge of the game is however mandatory I would say. | ||
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Whatson
United States5357 Posts
On November 05 2020 03:26 Fildun wrote: He's currently Gold 2 on NA with a not insignificant amount of games, which is probably somewhere around Plat 2 in SC2. At the moment he for sure doesn't have the League skills, but he's obviously a talented learner. I do think someone like Polt with his history is a valuable addition to any team, but the head coach role seems maybe a bit too much for his first job of this type. probably confusing TFT with LoL (which, idk how anybody could possibly confuse the two) he'll be one of many coaches on the team, probably more of a mental coach rather than a strategical one. Being good at LoL isn't necessarily a requirement to be a good coach, but it definitely helps as shown by kkoma, zefa, reapered, cvmax, grabbz, youngbuck, and mithy. | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On November 05 2020 06:59 Whatson wrote: probably confusing TFT with LoL (which, idk how anybody could possibly confuse the two) he'll be one of many coaches on the team, probably more of a mental coach rather than a strategical one. Being good at LoL isn't necessarily a requirement to be a good coach, but it definitely helps as shown by kkoma, zefa, reapered, cvmax, grabbz, youngbuck, and mithy. hard to keep all these casual games apart lol /s | ||
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geokilla
Canada8246 Posts
On November 05 2020 06:59 Whatson wrote: probably confusing TFT with LoL (which, idk how anybody could possibly confuse the two) he'll be one of many coaches on the team, probably more of a mental coach rather than a strategical one. Being good at LoL isn't necessarily a requirement to be a good coach, but it definitely helps as shown by kkoma, zefa, reapered, cvmax, grabbz, youngbuck, and mithy. Polt used to play LoL before switching to TFT after he quit SC2. He was fairly good in bot lane. | ||
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CicadaSC
United States1907 Posts
On November 04 2020 10:28 Nathanias wrote: Polt has always been a fantastic LoL player afaik. Dude is super smart and maybe didn't have the talent but certainly has the brains to be an interesting coaching component. Head coach is quite odd tho! i get this comment is supposed to praise polt but please dont ever say polt lacks talent. if he wanted to he coulda been a lol pro or whatever you are trying to imply his lack of talent caused him to miss | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8855 Posts
On November 05 2020 05:27 Mverdo wrote: Quite a lot of coaches in football have been players themselves, to name a few: - Antonio Conte (played for juve, now coaches Inter Milan) - Solskjaer (played for Manchester United and coaches there) - Mourinho (played for some relatively smaller teams tbf) - Frank Lampard (coaches chelsea now) etc etc Actually quite hard to find a coach who never played as a professional. While I do agree that it is not necessary for a good coach to have been a good player, it's by far not unprecedented. A deep knowledge of the game is however mandatory I would say. the list goes on. henry, gerrard, giggs, pirlo, arteta, gary neville had a stint, guardiola, koeman etc. not all of them are a-tier coaches but it definitely isnt because they lack understanding of the game. what you will never see is clubs like barcelona, man utd, real madrid, juventus etc. picking a coach with no management experience that only played at fking sunday league level. nor will you see them hire michael jordan or lebron james, because their achievements in another sport arent as relevant. thats exactly what polt's appointment to t1 looks like though. a guy with literally zero management experience who plays lol at sunday league level being hired to lead the biggest team in esports history. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26740 Posts
On November 05 2020 14:26 evilfatsh1t wrote: the list goes on. henry, gerrard, giggs, pirlo, arteta, gary neville had a stint, guardiola, koeman etc. not all of them are a-tier coaches but it definitely isnt because they lack understanding of the game. what you will never see is clubs like barcelona, man utd, real madrid, juventus etc. picking a coach with no management experience that only played at fking sunday league level. nor will you see them hire michael jordan or lebron james, because their achievements in another sport arent as relevant. thats exactly what polt's appointment to t1 looks like though. a guy with literally zero management experience who plays lol at sunday league level being hired to lead the biggest team in esports history. Indeed. Polt being some kind of coach given his mentality and use of time is absolute top tier, playing a solo game at a really high level while doing other things in life makes all the sense. Him being the head coach in a game he hasn’t played is bizarre. That said I’m unclear and still are what the roles of coaches actually are and who does what. Perhaps it’s different in League, in SC2 and even BW to a degree I’ve never actually read a breakdown about how everything fits together and what the practice regimen looks like, who’s responsible for what etc. | ||
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geokilla
Canada8246 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8855 Posts
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
On November 05 2020 03:26 Fildun wrote: He's currently Gold 2 on NA with a not insignificant amount of games, which is probably somewhere around Plat 2 in SC2. At the moment he for sure doesn't have the League skills, but he's obviously a talented learner. I do think someone like Polt with his history is a valuable addition to any team, but the head coach role seems maybe a bit too much for his first job of this type. How the fuck is Polt gold 2? I really don't believe one of the smartest players to ever touch this game is gold 2, its shit even by my standards. Lets not even go into the fact that he's on top of TFT ladder. It seems SKT doesn't believe he's ''gold 2'' either since they hired him. I know people will talk about football coaches and how you don't need to win a world cup to be a coach but don't you need to at least know where the goalposts are? | ||
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CicadaSC
United States1907 Posts
On November 09 2020 13:17 Morbidius wrote: How the fuck is Polt gold 2? I really don't believe one of the smartest players to ever touch this game is gold 2, its shit even by my standards. Lets not even go into the fact that he's on top of TFT ladder. It seems SKT doesn't believe he's ''gold 2'' either since they hired him. I know people will talk about football coaches and how you don't need to win a world cup to be a coach but don't you need to at least know where the goalposts are? If magnus carlson started playing league he'd be iron or bronze. Being smart isn't everything to a game, a lot is mechanics and practice. | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
On November 04 2020 18:02 xsnac wrote: baffling mentality from TL community in this thread. What does coaching having to do with being a player? In all sports coaches never played at top level. Except from Zidane I don't know a top coach right now in football, what do you guys think when you say that it is surprising? Polt has a big brain, demands respect with his Diploma and is charismatic enough to be a tremendous coach in any sport, even better comparing his 1v1 achievements in esport that he could fit the coach role for any esport team. In all sports coaches never played at top level? wtf are you talking about mate. Steve nash, Larry Bird, Jason Kid, Steve Kerr, and dozens more. these top level players in basketball all went into coaching at the top level. don't make such a stupid statement. | ||
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nigel
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On November 10 2020 08:52 CicadaSC wrote: If magnus carlson started playing league he'd be iron or bronze. Being smart isn't everything to a game, a lot is mechanics and practice. Which Polt, having had a career playing a game with largely similar mechanics, has plenty of practice with. Is there a source for the Gold 2 claim? I can believe that someone great at one esport isn't necessarily great at an adjacent one. But I would be shocked if Polt has played a significant amount of LoL and hasn't become at least the equivalent to SC2 masters. Just like how I'd expect any professional athlete to pick up almost any other sport and become better than 95% of players. | ||
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geokilla
Canada8246 Posts
On November 10 2020 09:32 nigel wrote: Which Polt, having had a career playing a game with largely similar mechanics, has plenty of practice with. Is there a source for the Gold 2 claim? I can believe that someone great at one esport isn't necessarily great at an adjacent one. But I would be shocked if Polt has played a significant amount of LoL and hasn't become at least the equivalent to SC2 masters. Just like how I'd expect any professional athlete to pick up almost any other sport and become better than 95% of players. Polt used to stream himself playing LoL over the summer before he started playing TFT. He got himself up the ranks pretty quickly. | ||
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Philozovic
France1677 Posts
On November 04 2020 18:02 xsnac wrote: baffling mentality from TL community in this thread. What does coaching having to do with being a player? In all sports coaches never played at top level. Except from Zidane I don't know a top coach right now in football, what do you guys think when you say that it is surprising? Polt has a big brain, demands respect with his Diploma and is charismatic enough to be a tremendous coach in any sport, even better comparing his 1v1 achievements in esport that he could fit the coach role for any esport team. Out of the 29 current NBA coaches : 8 had a meaningfull NBA experience 5 had some pro experience abroad The other 16 all but one (Taylor Jenkins) had a college carrer and were assistant for at least 10 years prior to becoming a headcoach Out of the 16 coaches in the last Ro16 of Champions league : 15 played some kind of Professional football (Maurizio Sarri who had to coach lower team for 28 years before becoming the headcoach of Chelsea) and all but two (Zidane and pep Gardiola who played 10 year for Barcelona and only coach the B team one year) were either assistant or coaching lower team for at least 6-7 Years prior giving a proper headcoaching job. So yeah check your facts | ||
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