Actually, pro Terran builds a wall-depot in front of their B2 or B3 (do they B4 wall ? i don t remember ...).
Clem building an armory in his wall
It makes sense, it s a quality of top tier Terran and most of them stack their units in the wall. We can say walls in front of the bases is a caracteristic of the metagame but despite his usefulness, we never see any bunker inside walls ? Pro Terran doesn t need to make a bunker cause they have no interest in doing so.. Indeed, these building have the same cost, the same amount of structure points and also depot needs 30 seconds time while bunker needs 41.5 seconds...
I would like to see bunker in wall, it could be more styl-ish.
This is not the only advantage, Terran could control the map faster (as i ve asked multiples times../ at least at casual level)
Of course this upgrade to build faster his bunker won t be allowed during proxy racks cheese...
For Pro, it s not a big buff (stuff ??), cause they have APM to control map with widow mines (upgrade seems mandatory for them now). But for casual, it would be great.
Please, just type what you want to say in French and then google translate it already. At this point you are deliberately mispelling and mistyping. It's hard to understand you.
You are wrong anyways, since pros do build bunkers. Then they salvage it when they feel they no longer want it. Where they feel they need permanent defence they build a supply free planetary fortress anyways.
Edit: OMG, stop editing your OP. How hard is it to type what needs to be said in an OP once?
I'd like to apologize on behalf of all the French here. This TL operator is a prime exemple of decades of a decaying French education system and a complete failure to promote English learning.
Regarding the actual content of the post, I honestly understood more of the text present in your hilarious 140p screenshot (what is this? a screenshot for ANTS?) than in your rambling, incoherent response.
but despite his usefulness, we never see any bunker inside walls ?
Then what the hell is THIS? I tried to set the quality level of my screenshot on par with yours to keep a consistent theme, I hope you can spot the bunker.
On April 09 2020 06:03 Dangermousecatdog wrote: Please, just type what you want to say in French and then google translate it already. At this point you are deliberately mispelling and mistyping. It's hard to understand you.
You are wrong anyways, since pros do build bunkers. Then they salvage it when they feel they no longer want it. Where they feel they need permanent defence they build a supply free planetary fortress anyways.
Edit: OMG, stop editing your OP. How hard is it to type what needs to be said in an OP once?
you are letting yourself get irrationally upset about this guy's threads lol
On April 09 2020 10:34 fastr wrote: I'd like to apologize on behalf of all the French here. This TL operator is a prime exemple of decades of a decaying French education system and a complete failure to promote English learning.
Regarding the actual content of the post, I honestly understood more of the text present in your hilarious 140p screenshot (what is this? a screenshot for ANTS?) than in your rambling, incoherent response.
but despite his usefulness, we never see any bunker inside walls ?
Then what the hell is THIS? I tried to set the quality level of my screenshot on par with yours to keep a consistent theme, I hope you can spot the bunker.
On April 09 2020 10:34 fastr wrote: I'd like to apologize on behalf of all the French here. This TL operator is a prime exemple of decades of a decaying French education system and a complete failure to promote English learning.
Regarding the actual content of the post, I honestly understood more of the text present in your hilarious 140p screenshot (what is this? a screenshot for ANTS?) than in your rambling, incoherent response.
but despite his usefulness, we never see any bunker inside walls ?
Then what the hell is THIS? I tried to set the quality level of my screenshot on par with yours to keep a consistent theme, I hope you can spot the bunker.
Amazing response. No need to apologize, I think most people know, how bad french 2nd language education is (almost as bad as US American one ) and as it s not your fault, but your teachers and your education System ones. I once talked with a french guy, who said, he didn t know you have pronounce the words differently in english than you would in french until he went to another Country. Imagine how you d feel, going to Country and realizing when you re there, that you actually can t speak and can t understand the language.. And HE had like 3-4 years of english education at school.. makes me sad to think about it..
On April 09 2020 10:34 fastr wrote: I'd like to apologize on behalf of all the French here. This TL operator is a prime exemple of decades of a decaying French education system and a complete failure to promote English learning.
Regarding the actual content of the post, I honestly understood more of the text present in your hilarious 140p screenshot (what is this? a screenshot for ANTS?) than in your rambling, incoherent response.
but despite his usefulness, we never see any bunker inside walls ?
Then what the hell is THIS? I tried to set the quality level of my screenshot on par with yours to keep a consistent theme, I hope you can spot the bunker.
Amazing response. No need to apologize, I think most people know, how bad french 2nd language education is (almost as bad as US American one ) and as it s not your fault, but your teachers and your education System ones. I once talked with a french guy, who said, he didn t know you have pronounce the words differently in english than you would in french until he went to another Country. Imagine how you d feel, going to Country and realizing when you re there, that you actually can t speak and can t understand the language.. And HE had like 3-4 years of english education at school.. makes me sad to think about it..
Seems a bit much to entirely blame the education system when someone's thick enough not to realize the words are pronounced differently...
On the contrary to most/all people here I understood the OP perfectly. Which or course does not change that he is wrong and all his threads are poorly thought out.
On April 09 2020 10:34 fastr wrote: I'd like to apologize on behalf of all the French here. This TL operator is a prime exemple of decades of a decaying French education system and a complete failure to promote English learning.
Regarding the actual content of the post, I honestly understood more of the text present in your hilarious 140p screenshot (what is this? a screenshot for ANTS?) than in your rambling, incoherent response.
but despite his usefulness, we never see any bunker inside walls ?
Then what the hell is THIS? I tried to set the quality level of my screenshot on par with yours to keep a consistent theme, I hope you can spot the bunker.
Amazing response. No need to apologize, I think most people know, how bad french 2nd language education is (almost as bad as US American one ) and as it s not your fault, but your teachers and your education System ones. I once talked with a french guy, who said, he didn t know you have pronounce the words differently in english than you would in french until he went to another Country. Imagine how you d feel, going to Country and realizing when you re there, that you actually can t speak and can t understand the language.. And HE had like 3-4 years of english education at school.. makes me sad to think about it..
Seems a bit much to entirely blame the education system when someone's thick enough not to realize the words are pronounced differently...
Well that means that in all his english courses they never actually listend to someone actually *speaking* english and also the teacher didn t know how to pronounce the words. Obviously he could have done something himselfe to improve his english, but if the teacher can t speak the language, how are the students supposed to learn it?
On April 09 2020 10:34 fastr wrote: I'd like to apologize on behalf of all the French here. This TL operator is a prime exemple of decades of a decaying French education system and a complete failure to promote English learning.
Regarding the actual content of the post, I honestly understood more of the text present in your hilarious 140p screenshot (what is this? a screenshot for ANTS?) than in your rambling, incoherent response.
but despite his usefulness, we never see any bunker inside walls ?
Then what the hell is THIS? I tried to set the quality level of my screenshot on par with yours to keep a consistent theme, I hope you can spot the bunker.
Amazing response. No need to apologize, I think most people know, how bad french 2nd language education is (almost as bad as US American one ) and as it s not your fault, but your teachers and your education System ones. I once talked with a french guy, who said, he didn t know you have pronounce the words differently in english than you would in french until he went to another Country. Imagine how you d feel, going to Country and realizing when you re there, that you actually can t speak and can t understand the language.. And HE had like 3-4 years of english education at school.. makes me sad to think about it..
Seems a bit much to entirely blame the education system when someone's thick enough not to realize the words are pronounced differently...
Well that means that in all his english courses they never actually listend to someone actually *speaking* english and also the teacher didn t know how to pronounce the words. Obviously he could have done something himselfe to improve his english, but if the teacher can t speak the language, how are the students supposed to learn it?
I don't think my English teachers were necessarily bad at English, but most of them were terrible teachers in general. Being a native English speaker and being good at teaching English are almost completely unrelated.
Most of my English classes were written-based. Endless grammar exercises without context, mindbogglingly repetitive lessons about preterit and past principle forms of irregular verbs, etc. Also, like you mentioned, teachers would speak French 90%+ of the time to explain an exercise or translate something because student's level is so bad that they don't understand basic English (as a direct consequence of this method of course). As a result, you'd hear maybe 10 minutes of actual English in a one hour lesson, and most students wouldn't utter a single word in English on most days.
Add to this the world class smugness of French people and their perceived superiority of the French language over English (or any other one for that matter), and you end up with a country where the only fluent English speakers are for the large majority self-taught, like myself.
Now I don't want to leave the impression that this post is stupid just because of the terrible English. I'm afraid that OP's point is proof enough.
Dedicated static defense is just expensive. When they build structures like supply depots or engineering bays, these structures must be built anyway so it's considered better to use them as defensive walls than to just put them in a corner somewhere.
On April 09 2020 16:01 fastr wrote: Add to this the world class smugness of French people and their perceived superiority of the French language over English (or any other one for that matter),
That's very weird about France and other European countries, IMO. It's like they see England as a rival so many people deliberately don't want to answer you in English, even if you're a tourist there and they do know English and have the option to reply to you in English (but they decide not to reply to you because of their disdain for English). Of course, as a tourist, if you're traveling throughout Europe, it's impossible to master the language of every country you visit.
Outside of Europe, this problem isn't as prevalent. Most people understand that English is the international language of communication and usually, they will do their best to reply to you in English if you're a tourist. It's just some European countries where some people don't like to reply to you in English, even if they understand you and their English is good enough to reply to you.
On April 09 2020 17:07 Cyro wrote: Dedicated static defense is just expensive. When they build structures like supply depots or engineering bays, these structures must be built anyway so it's considered better to use them as defensive walls than to just put them in a corner somewhere.
In the idea of keeping buildings useful, you re right but i m now questionning if they haven t stop to use enginerring bay like that ?? We ll see, but it remains a default solution since you take risks to cancel your upgrade (especially with enginerring bay)
Maru's bunker was not built to create a wall initially. The wall (consisting of engineering bays, a supply depot and the already-made bunker) was built around the bunker when Maru spotted adept shades coming for his natural expansion.
On April 09 2020 17:07 Cyro wrote: Dedicated static defense is just expensive. When they build structures like supply depots or engineering bays, these structures must be built anyway so it's considered better to use them as defensive walls than to just put them in a corner somewhere.
In the idea of keeping buildings useful, you re right but i m now questionning if they haven t stop to use enginerring bay like that ?? We ll see, but it remains a default solution since you take risks to cancel your upgrade (especially with enginerring bay)
Yeah that can suck. It helps more often than it hurts though
I'd take this a step further and make buildings stop shots (direct fire, that is, sieged tanks or corrosive bile isn't affected), so one has to build a bunker in the wall to shoot units outside the wall (from inside the bunker).
It's pretty sad to see folks making fun of this guy for his English. His English is totally fine, and he will only improve if he continues to practice. Whether his SC2 analysis is on par is a different matter.
If you have friends or family who speak English as a second language, you know that many people have insecurities about their English language skills. We should be encouraging people to practice in other languages, not making fun of their attempts to do so.
On April 09 2020 16:01 fastr wrote: Add to this the world class smugness of French people and their perceived superiority of the French language over English (or any other one for that matter),
That's very weird about France and other European countries, IMO. It's like they see England as a rival so many people deliberately don't want to answer you in English, even if you're a tourist there and they do know English and have the option to reply to you in English (but they decide not to reply to you because of their disdain for English). Of course, as a tourist, if you're traveling throughout Europe, it's impossible to master the language of every country you visit.
Outside of Europe, this problem isn't as prevalent. Most people understand that English is the international language of communication and usually, they will do their best to reply to you in English if you're a tourist. It's just some European countries where some people don't like to reply to you in English, even if they understand you and their English is good enough to reply to you.
You think so? In my experience its often either A) they want to practice their English skills with you and actively seek conversation or B) they are too embarrassed about their English skills so actively avoid it. Once I had a relationship with a girl that didn't talk to me in English because she was too embarrassed about her skills. Needless to say it didn't last very long.
On April 09 2020 20:53 rwala wrote: It's pretty sad to see folks making fun of this guy for his English. His English is totally fine, and he will only improve if he continues to practice. Whether his SC2 analysis is on par is a different matter.
If you have friends or family who speak English as a second language, you know that many people have insecurities about their English language skills. We should be encouraging people to practice in other languages, not making fun of their attempts to do so.
Oh I agree, we should encourage him to post more! And its not really Visions English that is so funny... He is the whole package, one of the best shitposters/trolls if not the best on this site. I am looking forward to all his posts, a good laugh always makes a day nicer.
On April 09 2020 20:53 rwala wrote: It's pretty sad to see folks making fun of this guy for his English. His English is totally fine, and he will only improve if he continues to practice. Whether his SC2 analysis is on par is a different matter.
If you have friends or family who speak English as a second language, you know that many people have insecurities about their English language skills. We should be encouraging people to practice in other languages, not making fun of their attempts to do so.
Oh I agree, we should encourage him to post more! And its not really Visions English that is so funny... He is the whole package, one of the best shitposters/trolls if not the best on this site. I am looking forward to all his posts, a good laugh always makes a day nicer.
Oh I didn't know he was joking (I was like hmmm...I'm a pretty bad SC2 player, but even I understand these bunker/wall dynamics). That's some advanced trolling right there! I still don't like trashing him for his English tho.
The problem isn't really his english, although it certainly doesn't help that it's legitimately difficult to understand what he's even saying. The probelm really is that he just keeps making these threads of balance suggestions or strategy suggestions that just don't even make sense, over and over and over again. Basically as far as I can tell from the post (which again is very difficult for me to understand), he's suggesting that T players should make a bunker in their wall because it helps them..control the map? Somehow? Not sure.
He's also made threads suggesting that combatshield should give more HP and stim should give less of an attack speed buff, comparing the timing of completely separate builds from HotS and LotV as if it means something significant, suggesting removing the ability for creep tumors to expand without a queen, and several other threads that I can't decipher the point of at all, if there even is one. I'm about 80% sure at this point that he's trolling.
On April 09 2020 20:53 rwala wrote: It's pretty sad to see folks making fun of this guy for his English. His English is totally fine, and he will only improve if he continues to practice. Whether his SC2 analysis is on par is a different matter.
If you have friends or family who speak English as a second language, you know that many people have insecurities about their English language skills. We should be encouraging people to practice in other languages, not making fun of their attempts to do so.
Oh I agree, we should encourage him to post more! And its not really Visions English that is so funny... He is the whole package, one of the best shitposters/trolls if not the best on this site. I am looking forward to all his posts, a good laugh always makes a day nicer.
Oh I didn't know he was joking (I was like hmmm...I'm a pretty bad SC2 player, but even I understand these bunker/wall dynamics). That's some advanced trolling right there! I still don't like trashing him for his English tho.
I regret veering this thread towards English speaking. You're totally right, We (I) shouldn't trash him for his English. But we should and will make fun of his ludicrous ideas about the game.
I agree with everyone though, like I said in his first thread, please keep them coming, this is by far the most entertaining content on the TL forums lately.
On April 09 2020 20:53 rwala wrote: It's pretty sad to see folks making fun of this guy for his English. His English is totally fine, and he will only improve if he continues to practice. Whether his SC2 analysis is on par is a different matter.
If you have friends or family who speak English as a second language, you know that many people have insecurities about their English language skills. We should be encouraging people to practice in other languages, not making fun of their attempts to do so.
Oh I agree, we should encourage him to post more! And its not really Visions English that is so funny... He is the whole package, one of the best shitposters/trolls if not the best on this site. I am looking forward to all his posts, a good laugh always makes a day nicer.
Oh I didn't know he was joking (I was like hmmm...I'm a pretty bad SC2 player, but even I understand these bunker/wall dynamics). That's some advanced trolling right there! I still don't like trashing him for his English tho.
I regret veering this thread towards English speaking. You're totally right, We (I) shouldn't trash him for his English. But we should and will make fun of his ludicrous ideas about the game.
I agree with everyone though, like I said in his first thread, please keep them coming, this is by far the most entertaining content on the TL forums lately.
Man your response (especially the screenshot part) killed me, I am still laughing inside :D
On April 10 2020 02:06 insitelol wrote: This thread is golden
Vision does set the golden standard of a troll post.
I am not saying he is trolling. In fact, I am exactly 50% torn between "this is too exaggerated to be true, he must be a troll" and "nobody would put that much effort into a troll post, he must be serious". And that 50% is the perfect balance any troll would want to achieve. But again, it's the perfect balance because someone who is not trolling can equally achieve it!
On April 09 2020 22:05 Psychonian wrote: he's suggesting that T players should make a bunker in their wall because it helps them..control the map? Somehow? Not sure.
My take on it is that with a bunker, there will be a lesser need for units at home. Instead of 10 marines, 4 will suffice. This means that a small troop would be able to wrest for map control.
I am wondering about the timings and effects in the different match ups. Important notices: A) bunkers cost resources. B) tanks/cyclones are usually what repels an aggressor. C) medivacs or tanks almost always accompany the first bio moving out. D) 4-6 hellions moving out are not affected by this. Hellions move out as soon as they are created. E) reaper scout happens before this matters.
Looking at D, this post cannot be about generally being out on the map early. This is 1) specifically bio or 2) a more dangerous mech battalion. If it is 2), then this is like point C. You need to wait for higher tier. This means that you are at home and there is no need for the extra bunker.
So, I have reasoned my way to understand this as a bio move out before tanks. This could mean 1) delaying making tanks at all, rushing starport or 2) investing in a dedicated bio push. These two option both rule out point B) and are leaving the base reliant on newly produced units as defense.
Looking at this 1), we see this quite often. People rush medivac and pick up every bio unit and boost across the map, leaving the base defenceless. Having the extra bunker AND extra units inside would have a negative impact on this. Meaning this is not what Vision intended. Therefore 2), should be the intention of Vision. We already see players do this from time to time, though. Does Vision want this to happen more often?
The downside of the bunker while doing a dedicated push is point A). With the bunker, the push is weaker.
Conclusion: changing bunker build time would not have the intended effect. There is no current build that would have a benefit that Vision claims to want. This is without taking match ups into consideration.
terran can make a wall anywhere on the map, so my theory is that vision is suggesting rushing a bunch of scv across the map to wall in zerg's natural with depots and a bunker before he can spread creep. this will accomplish the stated goal of map control by physically preventing the zerg from ever leaving his base until he makes ravagers, banelings, spines, or anything else t1.5 or above
Vision is 100% a Troll. When you dig a little in his older posts, you can see, that his english is actually pretty fine:
On August 07 2019 20:48 Vision_ wrote: Sc2 asks to much to his professionnal players. Comparing to others games like Moba or FPS, players need to handle long game with a high APM... It s not surprising to me Sc2 is dying, i have some issue but i already know community will never accept changes as i know how fans players dislike modifications of their sacred races...
Changes could be done with unit tester to reduce most of the box size units (about 70%), then reducing their speed movement. Then it s logic, first you have to adjust them against units with the biggest range,.. then you have to adjust area damage units. You can also remove the sight of creep tumors in compensation of some tools or mecanics.
I could work on that but i have not enought time for now.
So most likely the oppinions, he states are as trollish as his "bad" english Keep up the good content Especially in these challenging times it s great to have distractions like these..
On April 09 2020 15:00 Ej_ wrote: Which or course does not change that he is wrong and all his threads are poorly thought out.
Pfft. He's starting discussions about the game. How often do we have threads like this nowadays? Browsing the sc2 forum it's mostly about progamers, bug complaints and what someone named their daughter. Vision threads are by far the most interesting threads to read nowadays. Troll or not
On April 10 2020 18:06 dbRic1203 wrote: Vision is 100% a Troll. When you dig a little in his older posts, you can see, that his english is actually pretty fine:
On August 07 2019 20:48 Vision_ wrote: Sc2 asks to much to his professionnal players. Comparing to others games like Moba or FPS, players need to handle long game with a high APM... It s not surprising to me Sc2 is dying, i have some issue but i already know community will never accept changes as i know how fans players dislike modifications of their sacred races...
Changes could be done with unit tester to reduce most of the box size units (about 70%), then reducing their speed movement. Then it s logic, first you have to adjust them against units with the biggest range,.. then you have to adjust area damage units. You can also remove the sight of creep tumors in compensation of some tools or mecanics.
I could work on that but i have not enought time for now.
So most likely the oppinions, he states are as trollish as his "bad" english Keep up the good content Especially in these challenging times it s great to have distractions like these..
Well, troll confirmed. I guess I should feel foolish for my naviety, being played for by a wish for discussion.
On April 09 2020 15:00 Ej_ wrote: Which or course does not change that he is wrong and all his threads are poorly thought out.
Pfft. He's starting discussions about the game. How often do we have threads like this nowadays? Browsing the sc2 forum it's mostly about progamers, bug complaints and what someone named their daughter. Vision threads are by far the most interesting threads to read nowadays. Troll or not
How can one have a discussion, when most of that discussion become a bunch of people arguing over the interpretation and translation of what the OP has written? (Which btw was changed after I wrote my original post as it didn't have that low res picture originally, so that reply may or may not make as much sense).
I had thought he was trying to say that terrans should build bunkers. Another thinks he was talking about taking map control. Another thinks it is about the particulars of building a wall. Another thinks it is about rushing with SCVs. None of the people claiming they can understand him offer their own interpretation of what they think he meant. The OP himself prefers to just insult everybody else. And now it is revealed as a troll, which must surely also make all those defending his deliberately mangled words just as foolish.
If genuine anyways, how can one have a discussion when it's from someone who fundamentally doesn't seem to even play/watch the game, doesn't know how to read build orders, and mistakes damage for DPS?
On April 11 2020 01:43 Vision_ wrote: I m actually quite happy Clem is using Bunker as nobody does before (for example Clem Harstem / StayHome Cup)...
The bunker is a ressource which is clearly under used...
The bunker is poorly built because the work is being contracted out to lazy, unmotivated, overweight SCVs from a lousy union in the Korprula sector. This needs to change.
In order for the bunker to work, we need to start building it with reinforced concrete and steel beams that are properly heat treated, and for the love of god it needs to be stocked with adequate insect repellent supplies. Anything effective against the zerg queen would be helpful so as to avoid any further terran infestations. Is this the right subforum for this bit?
On April 11 2020 01:43 Vision_ wrote: I m actually quite happy Clem is using Bunker as nobody does before (for example Clem Harstem / StayHome Cup)...
The bunker is a ressource which is clearly under used...
The bunker is poorly built because the work is being contracted out to lazy, unmotivated, overweight SCVs from a lousy union in the Korprula sector. This needs to change.
In order for the bunker to work, we need to start building it with reinforced concrete and steel beams that are properly heat treated, and for the love of god it needs to be stocked with adequate insect repellent supplies. Anything effective against the zerg queen would be helpful so as to avoid any further terran infestations. Is this the right subforum for this bit?
Let me know if any questions.
I ve some answers to your pathetic fear of marines.
On April 11 2020 01:43 Vision_ wrote: I m actually quite happy Clem is using Bunker as nobody does before (for example Clem Harstem / StayHome Cup)...
The bunker is a ressource which is clearly under used...
The bunker is poorly built because the work is being contracted out to lazy, unmotivated, overweight SCVs from a lousy union in the Korprula sector. This needs to change.
In order for the bunker to work, we need to start building it with reinforced concrete and steel beams that are properly heat treated, and for the love of god it needs to be stocked with adequate insect repellent supplies. Anything effective against the zerg queen would be helpful so as to avoid any further terran infestations. Is this the right subforum for this bit?
Let me know if any questions.
I ve some answers to your pathetic fear of marines.
I'd be fine with the marines if the combat shield was being constructed to the industry standard, however it is not. The tech lab is producing substandard shields that couldn't protect a soldier from a fart in the wind. To rectify this, I propose that we stop using cardboard bases and fire all personnel that voted for Trump, and bring in Farvacola to oversee the overhaul of the research department.
On April 11 2020 01:43 Vision_ wrote: I m actually quite happy Clem is using Bunker as nobody does before (for example Clem Harstem / StayHome Cup)...
The bunker is a ressource which is clearly under used...
The bunker is poorly built because the work is being contracted out to lazy, unmotivated, overweight SCVs from a lousy union in the Korprula sector. This needs to change.
In order for the bunker to work, we need to start building it with reinforced concrete and steel beams that are properly heat treated, and for the love of god it needs to be stocked with adequate insect repellent supplies. Anything effective against the zerg queen would be helpful so as to avoid any further terran infestations. Is this the right subforum for this bit?
Let me know if any questions.
I ve some answers to your pathetic fear of marines.
I'd be fine with the marines if the combat shield was being constructed to the industry standard, however it is not. The tech lab is producing substandard shields that couldn't protect a soldier from a fart in the wind. To rectify this, I propose that we stop using cardboard bases and fire all personnel that voted for Trump, and bring in Farvacola to oversee the overhaul of the research department.
On April 09 2020 15:00 Ej_ wrote: Which or course does not change that he is wrong and all his threads are poorly thought out.
Pfft. He's starting discussions about the game. How often do we have threads like this nowadays? Browsing the sc2 forum it's mostly about progamers, bug complaints and what someone named their daughter. Vision threads are by far the most interesting threads to read nowadays. Troll or not
How can one have a discussion, when most of that discussion become a bunch of people arguing over the interpretation and translation of what the OP has written? (Which btw was changed after I wrote my original post as it didn't have that low res picture originally, so that reply may or may not make as much sense).
I had thought he was trying to say that terrans should build bunkers. Another thinks he was talking about taking map control. Another thinks it is about the particulars of building a wall. Another thinks it is about rushing with SCVs. None of the people claiming they can understand him offer their own interpretation of what they think he meant. The OP himself prefers to just insult everybody else. And now it is revealed as a troll, which must surely also make all those defending his deliberately mangled words just as foolish.
If genuine anyways, how can one have a discussion when it's from someone who fundamentally doesn't seem to even play/watch the game, doesn't know how to read build orders, and mistakes damage for DPS?
EPT![[image loading]](https://i.ibb.co/tpv9hbP/wall.png)
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) and as it s not your fault, but your teachers and your education System ones.
