The grand finals card for WESG 2018 is set, with Finland's Serral due to face Korea's INnoVation for the $150,000 1st place prize. WCS Global Champion Serral previously defeated INnoVation in two, high-profile series in 2018, eliminating him in GSL vs. The World RO8 (3-0) and in the HomeStory Cup 18 finals (4-3). However, INnoVation was able to gain a modicum of revenge at IEM Katowice 2019, winning 2-1 in a group stage match—albeit one without any stakes for either competitor.
Meanwhile, Scarlett and Maru will play in the third place match, with a difference of $10,000 in prize money lying in the balance. The third place match is set to begin on Sunday, Mar 17 6:15am GMT (GMT+00:00) while the grand finals is scheduled to start at Sunday, Mar 17 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (times are subject to change depending on matches in other WESG disciplines).
On March 17 2019 02:33 Sc2Nebula wrote: Wonder if there's any chance we have a Serral vs Maru match some day...Well.
I saw this coming. I was hoping to be wrong. But INnoVation has been in better shape than Maru since November, if you ask me. Right now he looks like the best Terran in the world.
Honestly I’m done. Serral has more than lived up to his end of the bargain it’s always been Maru who has fallen short. I have enough evidence now to tell me that Maru is not as good a player as Serral. The guy keeps choking every weekender tournament. He couldn’t even get out of his Ro16 Group in first place in the GSL; a group he designed himself!
The debate is over for THE CURRENT PERIOD OF TIME, because one player has always delivered since this narrative started; while the other has consistently failed to hold up his end if the bargain. The only evidence we have directly is a 1 map beat down during their show match at GSL vs the World. (Btw Team Serral also beat Team Maru showing that Serral made better picks as well).
(Maru still thinks Rogue is a better Zerg than Serral too even though all evidence points to the contrary...)
These truths are self evident. For now, by virtue of not qualifying for the contest multiple times when we could’ve gotten the matchup; this debate is over. Serral wins. Talk to me again when Maru actually delivers in a non GSL style weekend marathon tournament. Consistency MATTERS.
On March 17 2019 02:26 Kitai wrote: Oh, good. Now the Serral/Maru debate can stretch to eternity.
Well, Serral kept up his end of the bargain, Maru just needs to stop dodging Serral in the finals
I don't know why people are still waiting for these two to play it out. I mean it would've been great at Blizzcon to see who was the best player in 2018, but now? Maru hasn't been the god he used to be since september last year and he failed to prove his skill over and over again when it mattered since then.
I think Innovation vs Serral is a much better matchup and I'm happy for either of them to take the win.
On March 17 2019 02:26 Kitai wrote: Oh, good. Now the Serral/Maru debate can stretch to eternity.
Well, Serral kept up his end of the bargain, Maru just needs to stop dodging Serral in the finals
I don't know why people are still waiting for these two to play it out. I mean it would've been great at Blizzcon to see who was the best player in 2018, but now? Maru hasn't been the god he used to be since september last year and he failed to prove his skill over and over again when it mattered since then.
I think Innovation vs Serral is a much better matchup and I'm happy for either of them to take the win.
Maru's TvZ is the best? Who's gonna try Serral if not TY/Maru? Althought Inno appears to be getting back in shape, so he may.
On March 17 2019 02:26 Kitai wrote: Oh, good. Now the Serral/Maru debate can stretch to eternity.
Well, Serral kept up his end of the bargain, Maru just needs to stop dodging Serral in the finals
And Serral needs to stop dodging the GSL
Serral is not dodging the GSL; the GSL is dodging Serral. :-)
We might’ve seen him play S1 but Blizzard put that rule in restricting players to either pick GSL or Challenger Season 1 so there was no reason for any foreigner to risk giving up Circuit points. Yes, Scarlett stayed, and that rule has since been revoked when they realized that none of the foreigners were willing to risk it points for BlizzCon to play in a prestigious tournament that honestly doesn’t benefit any of them point wise.
However, I think you may get your wish before the year is out but it also depends on his schedule. Participation in a GSL requires an extended stay in Korea as well. Hopefully we have a few more foreigners play down the line: Scarlett plays all the time, would like to see Neeb and Reynor - maybe Lambo and ShoWTimE? back as well - as I think those are clearly the best Circuit players that are capable of making noise in that tourney.
On March 17 2019 02:26 Kitai wrote: Oh, good. Now the Serral/Maru debate can stretch to eternity.
Well, Serral kept up his end of the bargain, Maru just needs to stop dodging Serral in the finals
And Serral needs to stop dodging the GSL
Serral is not dodging the GSL; the GSL is dodging Serral. :-)
We might’ve seen him play S1 but Blizzard put that rule in restricting players to either pick GSL or Challenger Season 1 so there was no reason for any foreigner to risk giving up Circuit points. Yes, Scarlett stayed, and that rule has since been revoked when they realized that none of the foreigners were willing to risk it points for BlizzCon to play in a prestigious tournament that honestly doesn’t benefit any of them point wise.
However, I think you may get your wish before the year is out but it also depends on his schedule. Participation in a GSL requires an extended stay in Korea as well. Hopefully we have a few more foreigners play down the line: Scarlett plays all the time, would like to see Neeb and Reynor - maybe Lambo and ShoWTimE? back as well - as I think those are clearly the best Circuit players that are capable of making noise in that tourney.
It's not liek Serral cannot sacrifice a season in WCS as he will get the points anyway. And he's the best, so what risking are we talking about? C'mon, it's Serral dodging GSL. You can fly to Korea repeatadly and pretend it's multiple weekenders. You can't do this as a Korean citizen in WCS(you need to live there 30 days before the event once you get the visa).
Do we really ahve to go there every time? Also it's laughable foreigners need protection and when Koreans asked for one it's cancelled because too many good foreigners are scared about their easy points and especially funny it is when it's about t THE BEST PLAYER. Doesn't THE BEST mean THE BEST should win the tournament? So where's the risk? I cannot see it. Or is someone else the best then?
Soooo, nope. He's dodging Code S. (which is fine, I can see why, but don't defend the best dodging code S because the best is risking something...)
On March 17 2019 02:26 Kitai wrote: Oh, good. Now the Serral/Maru debate can stretch to eternity.
Well, Serral kept up his end of the bargain, Maru just needs to stop dodging Serral in the finals
And Serral needs to stop dodging the GSL
Serral is not dodging the GSL; the GSL is dodging Serral. :-)
We might’ve seen him play S1 but Blizzard put that rule in restricting players to either pick GSL or Challenger Season 1 so there was no reason for any foreigner to risk giving up Circuit points. Yes, Scarlett stayed, and that rule has since been revoked when they realized that none of the foreigners were willing to risk it points for BlizzCon to play in a prestigious tournament that honestly doesn’t benefit any of them point wise.
However, I think you may get your wish before the year is out but it also depends on his schedule. Participation in a GSL requires an extended stay in Korea as well. Hopefully we have a few more foreigners play down the line: Scarlett plays all the time, would like to see Neeb and Reynor - maybe Lambo and ShoWTimE? back as well - as I think those are clearly the best Circuit players that are capable of making noise in that tourney.
It's not liek Serral cannot sacrifice a season in WCS as he will get the points anyway. And he's the best, so what risking are we talking about? C'mon, it's Serral dodging GSL. You can fly to Korea repeatadly and pretend it's multiple weekenders. You can't do this as a Korean citizen in WCS(you need to live there 30 days before the event once you get the visa).
Do we really ahve to go there every time? Also it's laughable foreigners need protection and when Koreans asked for one it's cancelled because too many good foreigners are scared about their easy points and especially funny it is when it's about t THE BEST PLAYER. Doesn't THE BEST mean THE BEST should win the tournament? So where's the risk? I cannot see it. Or is someone else the best then?
Soooo, nope. He's dodging Code S. (which is fine, I can see why, but don't defend the best dodging code S because the best is risking something...)
Choice A: Fly multiple times to Korea over several months and deal with the jet lag, different living conditions, language barrier, etc. to play a tournament to appease some nobodies on the internet.
Choice B: Keep playing the WCS circuit and rack up money like he has been doing.
Hmmm yeah... I can't see why Serral wouldn't fly to Korea to play in the GSL. Must be because he's scared of Maru.
On March 17 2019 02:26 Kitai wrote: Oh, good. Now the Serral/Maru debate can stretch to eternity.
Well, Serral kept up his end of the bargain, Maru just needs to stop dodging Serral in the finals
And Serral needs to stop dodging the GSL
Serral is not dodging the GSL; the GSL is dodging Serral. :-)
We might’ve seen him play S1 but Blizzard put that rule in restricting players to either pick GSL or Challenger Season 1 so there was no reason for any foreigner to risk giving up Circuit points. Yes, Scarlett stayed, and that rule has since been revoked when they realized that none of the foreigners were willing to risk it points for BlizzCon to play in a prestigious tournament that honestly doesn’t benefit any of them point wise.
However, I think you may get your wish before the year is out but it also depends on his schedule. Participation in a GSL requires an extended stay in Korea as well. Hopefully we have a few more foreigners play down the line: Scarlett plays all the time, would like to see Neeb and Reynor - maybe Lambo and ShoWTimE? back as well - as I think those are clearly the best Circuit players that are capable of making noise in that tourney.
It's not liek Serral cannot sacrifice a season in WCS as he will get the points anyway. And he's the best, so what risking are we talking about? C'mon, it's Serral dodging GSL. You can fly to Korea repeatadly and pretend it's multiple weekenders. You can't do this as a Korean citizen in WCS(you need to live there 30 days before the event once you get the visa).
Do we really ahve to go there every time? Also it's laughable foreigners need protection and when Koreans asked for one it's cancelled because too many good foreigners are scared about their easy points and especially funny it is when it's about t THE BEST PLAYER. Doesn't THE BEST mean THE BEST should win the tournament? So where's the risk? I cannot see it. Or is someone else the best then?
Soooo, nope. He's dodging Code S. (which is fine, I can see why, but don't defend the best dodging code S because the best is risking something...)
So let’s see... you’re saying he should give up playing in the tournament designated for his country just to answer your whims. You might as well ask a NA FIFA team to qualify through Europe instead.
There are things we want him to do and things he actually HAS to do. WCS Circuit is something he has to do as a Circuit player. If you actually READ what I said, I pointed out that I think we will see him do this before the year is out: the question is how it fits into his schedule because it is a massive time investment.
It should be noted however, that he has been asked about this directly: he basically said he doesn’t think it’s fair to take spots away from Koreans in their own tournament. (Different debate.)
Serral hasn’t “dodged” anything... the timing hasn’t worked out yet. So slow your roll, he has two more seasons of GSL he could try for yet.
But no player, no matter how good they are, even Serral, will risk qualification points for BlizzCon - that is a ridiculous ask -this game is hard enough as it is without forfeiting those and who knows how long he will be in his current form? There is simply too much on the line to risk, even for Serral.
You’re more likely to see him try after he’s secured a spot, so if I were going to guess I think we will see him try Season 3.
On March 17 2019 02:26 Kitai wrote: Oh, good. Now the Serral/Maru debate can stretch to eternity.
Well, Serral kept up his end of the bargain, Maru just needs to stop dodging Serral in the finals
And Serral needs to stop dodging the GSL
Serral is not dodging the GSL; the GSL is dodging Serral. :-)
We might’ve seen him play S1 but Blizzard put that rule in restricting players to either pick GSL or Challenger Season 1 so there was no reason for any foreigner to risk giving up Circuit points. Yes, Scarlett stayed, and that rule has since been revoked when they realized that none of the foreigners were willing to risk it points for BlizzCon to play in a prestigious tournament that honestly doesn’t benefit any of them point wise.
However, I think you may get your wish before the year is out but it also depends on his schedule. Participation in a GSL requires an extended stay in Korea as well. Hopefully we have a few more foreigners play down the line: Scarlett plays all the time, would like to see Neeb and Reynor - maybe Lambo and ShoWTimE? back as well - as I think those are clearly the best Circuit players that are capable of making noise in that tourney.
It's not liek Serral cannot sacrifice a season in WCS as he will get the points anyway. And he's the best, so what risking are we talking about? C'mon, it's Serral dodging GSL. You can fly to Korea repeatadly and pretend it's multiple weekenders. You can't do this as a Korean citizen in WCS(you need to live there 30 days before the event once you get the visa).
Do we really ahve to go there every time? Also it's laughable foreigners need protection and when Koreans asked for one it's cancelled because too many good foreigners are scared about their easy points and especially funny it is when it's about t THE BEST PLAYER. Doesn't THE BEST mean THE BEST should win the tournament? So where's the risk? I cannot see it. Or is someone else the best then?
Soooo, nope. He's dodging Code S. (which is fine, I can see why, but don't defend the best dodging code S because the best is risking something...)
That just sounds like a bad financial decision. Why would he sacrifice playing in tourneys he can win hundreds of thousands for a tournament that lasts 2-3 months that's worth 26k for first place? All that traveling, relocating, adapting to new environments seem a bit much for someone who has consistently placed higher than Maru in their recent tournaments. Don't think of it as Serral dodging Code S, think of it as Serral not participating because it isn't worth his time due to the low $. Serral has nothing to prove really. If Maru really wants to prove that he's better, then he should show it through results. This isn't to say Maru isn't a top tier player, I still think he's the second best player in the world atm, but idk man, Maru is doing a great job at dodging Serral.
I'm actually very excited to see Inno vs Serral. The group matches at Katowice were amazing. Thumbs up to "StarcraftSqall"s first post, that's really what I was thinking too
On March 17 2019 02:26 Kitai wrote: Oh, good. Now the Serral/Maru debate can stretch to eternity.
Well, Serral kept up his end of the bargain, Maru just needs to stop dodging Serral in the finals
And Serral needs to stop dodging the GSL
Serral is not dodging the GSL; the GSL is dodging Serral. :-)
We might’ve seen him play S1 but Blizzard put that rule in restricting players to either pick GSL or Challenger Season 1 so there was no reason for any foreigner to risk giving up Circuit points. Yes, Scarlett stayed, and that rule has since been revoked when they realized that none of the foreigners were willing to risk it points for BlizzCon to play in a prestigious tournament that honestly doesn’t benefit any of them point wise.
However, I think you may get your wish before the year is out but it also depends on his schedule. Participation in a GSL requires an extended stay in Korea as well. Hopefully we have a few more foreigners play down the line: Scarlett plays all the time, would like to see Neeb and Reynor - maybe Lambo and ShoWTimE? back as well - as I think those are clearly the best Circuit players that are capable of making noise in that tourney.
It's not liek Serral cannot sacrifice a season in WCS as he will get the points anyway. And he's the best, so what risking are we talking about? C'mon, it's Serral dodging GSL. You can fly to Korea repeatadly and pretend it's multiple weekenders. You can't do this as a Korean citizen in WCS(you need to live there 30 days before the event once you get the visa).
Do we really ahve to go there every time? Also it's laughable foreigners need protection and when Koreans asked for one it's cancelled because too many good foreigners are scared about their easy points and especially funny it is when it's about t THE BEST PLAYER. Doesn't THE BEST mean THE BEST should win the tournament? So where's the risk? I cannot see it. Or is someone else the best then?
Soooo, nope. He's dodging Code S. (which is fine, I can see why, but don't defend the best dodging code S because the best is risking something...)
That just sounds like a bad financial decision. Why would he sacrifice playing in tourneys he can win hundreds of thousands for a tournament that lasts 2-3 months that's worth 26k for first place? All that traveling, relocating, adapting to new environments seem a bit much for someone who has consistently placed higher than Maru in their recent tournaments. Don't think of it as Serral dodging Code S, think of it as Serral not participating because it isn't worth his time due to the low $. Serral has nothing to prove really. If Maru really wants to prove that he's better, then he should show it through results. This isn't to say Maru isn't a top tier player, I still think he's the second best player in the world atm, but idk man, Maru is doing a great job at dodging Serral.
That's not entirely true: prize money isn't everything, history and glory do matter and Code S still retains its prestige; to Serral as well, even if he is not obsessed by them. Serral said living in Korea(in 2017) was overall a positive experience and that he would do it again, he didn't exclude he'll play in Code S one day. However, he said after HSC it was dumb that he could even play in GSL and that he had no plans to compete in korean leagues in 2019; moreover, the key point is that he wouldn't like to leave Finland for more than one month so it's unlikely he'll spend three abroad. If Code S format was monthly like it was in 2011, we'll for sure see Serral try.
Maybe a direct invitation could help him in that regard or maybe he'll be more likely to try when he has already secured Blizzcon as suggested in the post above yours. I would love to see him in Code S but that's a decision only Serral can take and he is not expected nor obliged to.
its a good thing that INno got through, Serral was most of the time sitting behind Maru while he was practicing and it's quite likely that he figured something out, either way Maru needs to change his playstyle if he wants to keep winning, he has been studied now for too long and sheer mechanics can't carry him all the time anymore, everyone knows what Maru is going to do, as we could see in the series vs INno
On March 17 2019 02:26 Kitai wrote: Oh, good. Now the Serral/Maru debate can stretch to eternity.
Well, Serral kept up his end of the bargain, Maru just needs to stop dodging Serral in the finals
And Serral needs to stop dodging the GSL
Serral is not dodging the GSL; the GSL is dodging Serral. :-)
We might’ve seen him play S1 but Blizzard put that rule in restricting players to either pick GSL or Challenger Season 1 so there was no reason for any foreigner to risk giving up Circuit points. Yes, Scarlett stayed, and that rule has since been revoked when they realized that none of the foreigners were willing to risk it points for BlizzCon to play in a prestigious tournament that honestly doesn’t benefit any of them point wise.
However, I think you may get your wish before the year is out but it also depends on his schedule. Participation in a GSL requires an extended stay in Korea as well. Hopefully we have a few more foreigners play down the line: Scarlett plays all the time, would like to see Neeb and Reynor - maybe Lambo and ShoWTimE? back as well - as I think those are clearly the best Circuit players that are capable of making noise in that tourney.
Then why didn't he participate GSL Code S (not GSLvsWorld) last year when every foreigners could participate? Top foreigners like Neeb, Scarlett, SpeCial, Reynor, Elazer, Lambo, Ptitdrogo participated Code S last year even when they were playing for WCS Circuit. (although Lambo and Ptitdrogo didn't make to ro32) It is true Serral always dodged Code S even when he had chances in 2017-2018.
On March 17 2019 02:26 Kitai wrote: Oh, good. Now the Serral/Maru debate can stretch to eternity.
Well, Serral kept up his end of the bargain, Maru just needs to stop dodging Serral in the finals
And Serral needs to stop dodging the GSL
Serral is not dodging the GSL; the GSL is dodging Serral. :-)
We might’ve seen him play S1 but Blizzard put that rule in restricting players to either pick GSL or Challenger Season 1 so there was no reason for any foreigner to risk giving up Circuit points. Yes, Scarlett stayed, and that rule has since been revoked when they realized that none of the foreigners were willing to risk it points for BlizzCon to play in a prestigious tournament that honestly doesn’t benefit any of them point wise.
However, I think you may get your wish before the year is out but it also depends on his schedule. Participation in a GSL requires an extended stay in Korea as well. Hopefully we have a few more foreigners play down the line: Scarlett plays all the time, would like to see Neeb and Reynor - maybe Lambo and ShoWTimE? back as well - as I think those are clearly the best Circuit players that are capable of making noise in that tourney.
It's not liek Serral cannot sacrifice a season in WCS as he will get the points anyway. And he's the best, so what risking are we talking about? C'mon, it's Serral dodging GSL. You can fly to Korea repeatadly and pretend it's multiple weekenders. You can't do this as a Korean citizen in WCS(you need to live there 30 days before the event once you get the visa).
Do we really ahve to go there every time? Also it's laughable foreigners need protection and when Koreans asked for one it's cancelled because too many good foreigners are scared about their easy points and especially funny it is when it's about t THE BEST PLAYER. Doesn't THE BEST mean THE BEST should win the tournament? So where's the risk? I cannot see it. Or is someone else the best then?
Soooo, nope. He's dodging Code S. (which is fine, I can see why, but don't defend the best dodging code S because the best is risking something...)
dude you already made this argument before and could not provide a single real proof of this. Stop selling your opinions as facts, especially in a repetitive manner without improvements.
lol serral fan boys talking it up again after elimination from IEM, watch them jump on the band wagon when he wins, but when he loses the good old " but he gave them a run for his money imo, next time Serral!" haha. just enjoy the games happening and display of skill and be happy regardless.
Before a Serral-Maru matchup gets interesting again they first have to climb the hill of greatness again, because they're not as great anymore. Maru sadly seems to struggle quite a bit while Serral just isn't as great anymore but still shows the potential for starting a year of dominance again. But he also still has to prove the likelihood of that possibility. So far, 2019 just has no clear favorites and therefore a match between Serral and Maru only would've caused many wrong conclusions which probably would've been anachronistically projected back onto the question of greatest of 2018.
Registering account after some 7-8 months active lurking on trails of Serral. Played few hours of some SC2 campaign half decade or so ago (that campaign where one map has periodic lava flow). No SC2 account yet, and probably won't ever have either. But watching the game a lot. So, no tactical advice from me, and zero comments of imbalance whining!
Hoping that Serral will find his high end game and consistency (that's relative thing in SC2 generally, and with Serral particularly). I think Inno will win this one, even I root for Serral, as he seems to be in top form currently, being also the player whom has seemingly managed crack Serral's game best.
What ever, adversity will do only good for Joona!
Btw. When people always require that Serral should move to Korea to compete against Koreans, why not require equally that some top Koreans (including Maru) would move to EU/NA to compete against foreigners? If it's so damn hard to some Koreans to make a trip and acclimatize to the foreign scenes, why it should be easy and obvious choice to make, and move for foreigners?
Like Korean mass immigration (or Maru's individual) to WCS Circuit scene would somehow lower overall level of the circuit, or if that's most important the World's overall level. It's obvious that if Serral would go to compete GSL, the competitive level of it would rise. Why expect thing other way, but not another around?
Time for revenge after the loss in IEM? I love both players, I think it is epic to see them in a final like this. I cannot be one bit disappointed with Serral vs Inno in the final.
On March 17 2019 08:04 pvsnp wrote: Just realized that the scheduling is such that we can watch the ASL finals between the WESG 3rd place and finals.
WESG's schedule has been horrible to be honest. Not especially bad times for Finns per se, but those gaps between matches.
few days ago I took a nap after that day's matches, only to dramatically waking up from a dream where I was standing against the wall before execution squad, them asking my last wish....
I asked "Let me watch this WESG 2019 to it's conclusion, please."
The dream was very vivid, and awakening rabid.
Better be worth of all idle waiting! Serral! Serral!
On March 17 2019 07:57 BaneRiders wrote: Time for revenge after the loss in IEM? I love both players, I think it is epic to see them in a final like this. I cannot be one bit disappointed with Serral vs Inno in the final.
You know, I wonder how much the "revenge" aspect plays out in a weekender tournament such as this. In a GSL format where you might have a week+ to prepare, I could see players spending that extra time and effort to prepare for a revenge match. But in this case, how much can one prepare given the fast turnaround between opponents?
I'd also imagine for some players, getting too amped on the revenge angle could cause them to play emotionally / undisciplined. It might be the "robotic" players who shut down any potentially distracting emotions (e.g., Innovation, Taeja, Serral) that end up being the most devastating players in this format
Honestly I think most people believe Serral doesn't look as good as last year so they think his level dropped. I actually think he's pretty much the same player and the other guys are just playing better now. Will be interesting to see what he can do against Innovation who looks like he might finally be back in great form and reclaiming his title as the best terran in the world.
On March 17 2019 08:04 pvsnp wrote: Just realized that the scheduling is such that we can watch the ASL finals between the WESG 3rd place and finals.
Not necessarily true. The games may start early as it is dependent on the games being played leading up to it. Seems kinda silly not to just play both series back to back... and as anyone who watches Brood War matches knows those matches can take quite a while to finish. It’s quite possible you’d have to stop mid match.
On March 17 2019 09:54 Waxangel wrote: Grudges and biases aside, everyone should be excited for this match. 3-4 at HSC, 2-1 at IEM -- it could be that TvZ epic we all want.
That means it's gonna be a 4-0 blowout overshadowed by technical difficulties and everyone goes home disappointed
On March 17 2019 09:54 Waxangel wrote: Grudges and biases aside, everyone should be excited for this match. 3-4 at HSC, 2-1 at IEM -- it could be that TvZ epic we all want.
That means it's gonna be a 4-0 blowout overshadowed by technical difficulties and everyone goes home disappointed
Serral 4-0 or 4-1 confirmed.
I agree with this it's a real tendency lmao. Hopefully we can have a typical awesome Serral vs Inno series =). If they both bring their A-game this will be a fantastic final.
On March 17 2019 09:54 Waxangel wrote: Grudges and biases aside, everyone should be excited for this match. 3-4 at HSC, 2-1 at IEM -- it could be that TvZ epic we all want.
I would be, if it wasn't in the middle of the night .
On March 17 2019 03:45 DevilDriver wrote: I'm actually very excited to see Inno vs Serral. The group matches at Katowice were amazing. Thumbs up to "StarcraftSqall"s first post, that's really what I was thinking too
On paper, this should be really close. I really hope that ends up being the case, luckily WESG has a decent track record when it comes to entertaining finals.
I also wouldn't be surprised if Scarlett vs Maru is closer than expected.
On March 17 2019 09:54 Waxangel wrote: Grudges and biases aside, everyone should be excited for this match. 3-4 at HSC, 2-1 at IEM -- it could be that TvZ epic we all want.
I would be, if it wasn't in the middle of the night .
On March 17 2019 08:54 NinjaNight wrote: Honestly I think most people believe Serral doesn't look as good as last year so they think his level dropped. I actually think he's pretty much the same player and the other guys are just playing better now. Will be interesting to see what he can do against Innovation who looks like he might finally be back in great form and reclaiming his title as the best terran in the world.
Well, just look at the capital errors Serral made at IEM, you would not find similar ones in the matches he played last year in tournaments of similar importance. His decision making seemed a little off as well as he defended well but did not press the advantage when he needed to and most likely lost because of that.
He still has top notch mechanics and multitasking, at WESG he played at his average level after that very hard start, a very top player still being the most consistent and probably best in the world ; however, Serral is not on par with the unstoppable juggernaut he was at BlizzCon and GSL vs the World where he utterly crushed the competition.
By the way, the next Premier tournament that is not currently ongoing is GSL Super Tournament I, starting the 18th of April.
All this GSL talk here for Serral. Why hasn't he gone? Oh, because this or that?
All this talk is dumb and gets tiring to read. Serral probably doesn't care about any of this, and as far as we can tell has no real desire to go stay in Korea. TL users can obsess over it all they want, but apart from it being a cool idea in theory, I don't think it is worth arguing over because the argument conflates TL users desire to confirm who is best with Serral's personal goals which don't apparently align.
Having said that, since his brother already lives there it does seem like his road to GSL would be easier than it is for most foreigners since he would at least have a piece of home there. I would love to see him try a few seasons, but I totally get him not feeling any need to do it.
In all seriousness, he doesn't seem as motivated. I mean he won tons of money and 3 GSLs in a row. He's probably taking a little break. He's still great, though. He just doesn't want it as badly as he did. It's time for someone else to be the greatest in Korea for a while until he regains his lust for the game or pursues something else.
On March 17 2019 13:03 RogerChillingworth wrote: Maru lost his passion.
In all seriousness, he doesn't seem as motivated. I mean he won tons of money and 3 GSLs in a row. He's probably taking a little break. He's still great, though. He just doesn't want it as badly as he did. It's time for someone else to be the greatest in Korea for a while until he regains his lust for the game or pursues something else.
Maru is a choker, i feel he gets tilted very easily. He messed up against sOs at Blizzcon and got 3-0ed, he was styling on Scarlett in game one, messed up, then played very poorly in the rest of the series. Inno has way more mental fortitude than Maru, even if his mechanics aren't as good.
On March 17 2019 09:54 Waxangel wrote: Grudges and biases aside, everyone should be excited for this match. 3-4 at HSC, 2-1 at IEM -- it could be that TvZ epic we all want.
I would be, if it wasn't in the middle of the night .
You act like you have to sleep. Stay up noob. =)
I did that back in the day, stayed up for some Proleague or OSL finals, was so tired that watching Effort's amazing comeback against Flash all I could think of was "god damn it, if this had ended 3-0 I could be sleeping now" .
On March 17 2019 09:54 Waxangel wrote: Grudges and biases aside, everyone should be excited for this match. 3-4 at HSC, 2-1 at IEM -- it could be that TvZ epic we all want.
I would be, if it wasn't in the middle of the night .
You act like you have to sleep. Stay up noob. =)
I did that back in the day, stayed up for some Proleague or OSL finals, was so tired that watching Effort's amazing comeback against Flash all I could think of was "god damn it, if this had ended 3-0 I could be sleeping now" .
Thank goodness we have VODs on Twitch now / otherwise I don’t think I’d be able to keep up with the ASL KSL or GSL.
Not to mention this past month and a half we have been ridiculously slammed with SC2 events between WCS GSL IEM and WESG, one can’t hope to keep up if they’re living a somewhat normal life without the Replay options. 😉
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