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On January 27 2019 03:21 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2019 03:14 yuisaka wrote:On January 27 2019 03:09 Charoisaur wrote:On January 27 2019 03:07 yuisaka wrote:On January 27 2019 03:02 Charoisaur wrote:On January 27 2019 02:55 Puosu wrote:On January 27 2019 02:45 Charoisaur wrote:
Everyone here bashing TIME should post the most political incorrect conversation they've ever held publicly right now.
But I guess you're all angels and have never held a political incorrect conversation, right? Never used a slur word while talking to friends? is your point that because this isn't the first time someone is saying horrible shit we should just shrug it off ? you'd think the prevalence of this kind of speech would get you more pissed off! My point is that he has done something probably 90+ % of the poulation have done at one point (even if not as extreme) but because it got leaked and people like to play white knight SJW on the internet he gets crucified for it. Even the current US president was recorded making derogatory comments about women. I believe most people never said fuk a country's women and kill them,I dont know how German people think propably 90+ % of the poulation have done at one point that's why I said "even if not as extreme" but the point is the same. Dark humor is really common. fuk a girl is common fuk the whole country's women is not common fuck the whole country's women and kill them is unacceptable. you want kill a chicken and eat it is common you want kill a human and eat it is unacceptable.There have a bottom line.Not everything can use the excuse "Dark humor" You seem to not get the concept of a joke. If I say I want to kill and eat a human to someone their reaction certainly wouldn't be "whoa saying that is unacceptable, I don't want to have anything to do with you anymore"
I mean normal people will not accept those jokes,I know people hang around with same kind of people,they think it is funny .Nazi don't think they are doing wrong but we are normal people, we know what are acceptable what aren't.
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On January 27 2019 03:25 William paradise wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2019 03:23 quilajino wrote:On January 27 2019 02:12 7hincat wrote:On January 27 2019 02:05 gpanda.sc2 wrote:On January 27 2019 01:31 Silvanel wrote:
Its not the proper way to vent Your anger.
I mean it reveals a lot about him that when he is angry he thinks and says about raping and killing of Korean women, rather than venting specifically about GSL/WCS/SC2/persons directly responsible(or even Koreans in general) for his anger/problems, which would be much more understable and easier (at least in my book) to forgive. The fact that he is targeting something which isnt directly connected to the source of anger is very troubling for me. OK, It *reveals*... so it must be proved to be genuine at first, right? And even if it's real, circumstance and context is required, right? What if somebody point a gun at his head and force him to type those? What if after all those messages, he actually added another line "If I chat like this and get exposed on the web, will I get destroyed?" but was omitted by the one did the screenshot? if they are to set TIME up there's no use saying anything. Anyone from China can see that this is very misleading translation. Someone know they cant ruin TIME in China so they try to ruin his career oversea. After there's a Chinese Team League upcoming and killing TIME, the best player in China, may be the right way to ruin the League I wonder why anyone would actively try to ruin TIME's career. Not that people need reasons to do this kind of stuff to famous people, but still. Anyway, even Google Translate being trash for chinese, people don't seem to care too much about it on Weibo, so I wouldn't worry either. not really weibo concern should be wcs though he is being paid by them so.
I mean, if the chinese community (who could grasp the meaning of whatever he said way better than us) isn't reacting too hard, I think there isn't much to it. Foreigner community backlash, however, is seriously dangerous as we are just guessing whether his words are ok or not based on what other people tell us.
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On January 27 2019 03:29 yuisaka wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2019 03:21 Charoisaur wrote:On January 27 2019 03:14 yuisaka wrote:On January 27 2019 03:09 Charoisaur wrote:On January 27 2019 03:07 yuisaka wrote:On January 27 2019 03:02 Charoisaur wrote:On January 27 2019 02:55 Puosu wrote:On January 27 2019 02:45 Charoisaur wrote:
Everyone here bashing TIME should post the most political incorrect conversation they've ever held publicly right now.
But I guess you're all angels and have never held a political incorrect conversation, right? Never used a slur word while talking to friends? is your point that because this isn't the first time someone is saying horrible shit we should just shrug it off ? you'd think the prevalence of this kind of speech would get you more pissed off! My point is that he has done something probably 90+ % of the poulation have done at one point (even if not as extreme) but because it got leaked and people like to play white knight SJW on the internet he gets crucified for it. Even the current US president was recorded making derogatory comments about women. I believe most people never said fuk a country's women and kill them,I dont know how German people think propably 90+ % of the poulation have done at one point that's why I said "even if not as extreme" but the point is the same. Dark humor is really common. fuk a girl is common fuk the whole country's women is not common fuck the whole country's women and kill them is unacceptable. you want kill a chicken and eat it is common you want kill a human and eat it is unacceptable.There have a bottom line.Not everything can use the excuse "Dark humor" You seem to not get the concept of a joke. If I say I want to kill and eat a human to someone their reaction certainly wouldn't be "whoa saying that is unacceptable, I don't want to have anything to do with you anymore" I mean normal people will not accept those jokes,I know people hang around with same kind of people,they think it is funny .Nazi don't think they are doing wrong but we are normal people, we know what are acceptable what aren't.
When I challenged you on this nonsense last time you stopped posting for a while. I guess you're back.
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On January 27 2019 03:04 William paradise wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2019 03:02 Charoisaur wrote:On January 27 2019 02:55 Puosu wrote:On January 27 2019 02:45 Charoisaur wrote:
Everyone here bashing TIME should post the most political incorrect conversation they've ever held publicly right now.
But I guess you're all angels and have never held a political incorrect conversation, right? Never used a slur word while talking to friends? is your point that because this isn't the first time someone is saying horrible shit we should just shrug it off ? you'd think the prevalence of this kind of speech would get you more pissed off! My point is that he has done something probably 90+ % of the poulation have done at one point (even if not as extreme) but because it got leaked and people like to play white knight SJW on the internet he gets crucified for it. Even the current US president was recorded making derogatory comments about women. And the #metomovement was born out of that
#metoo = me + too, me = victim
Is this OP a victim?
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On January 27 2019 03:18 William paradise wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2019 03:12 Elmonti wrote:
The OP must be really pleased with the thread: not only he makes all of this public (clearly he doesn't like TIME), but he makes people argue for 10+ pages. Seriously, like he's laughing his ass off. so he doesnt like TIME does that excuse that kind of language. does that mean trump gets a pass for the bus tape?
Are you 100% sure the chat speech are from Time?
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On January 27 2019 03:36 quilajino wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2019 03:25 William paradise wrote:On January 27 2019 03:23 quilajino wrote:On January 27 2019 02:12 7hincat wrote:On January 27 2019 02:05 gpanda.sc2 wrote:On January 27 2019 01:31 Silvanel wrote:
Its not the proper way to vent Your anger.
I mean it reveals a lot about him that when he is angry he thinks and says about raping and killing of Korean women, rather than venting specifically about GSL/WCS/SC2/persons directly responsible(or even Koreans in general) for his anger/problems, which would be much more understable and easier (at least in my book) to forgive. The fact that he is targeting something which isnt directly connected to the source of anger is very troubling for me. OK, It *reveals*... so it must be proved to be genuine at first, right? And even if it's real, circumstance and context is required, right? What if somebody point a gun at his head and force him to type those? What if after all those messages, he actually added another line "If I chat like this and get exposed on the web, will I get destroyed?" but was omitted by the one did the screenshot? if they are to set TIME up there's no use saying anything. Anyone from China can see that this is very misleading translation. Someone know they cant ruin TIME in China so they try to ruin his career oversea. After there's a Chinese Team League upcoming and killing TIME, the best player in China, may be the right way to ruin the League I wonder why anyone would actively try to ruin TIME's career. Not that people need reasons to do this kind of stuff to famous people, but still. Anyway, even Google Translate being trash for chinese, people don't seem to care too much about it on Weibo, so I wouldn't worry either. not really weibo concern should be wcs though he is being paid by them so. I mean, if the chinese community (who could grasp the meaning of whatever he said way better than us) isn't reacting too hard, I think there isn't much to it. Foreigner community backlash, however, is seriously dangerous as we are just guessing whether his words are ok or not based on what other people tell us.
Yea, it can't possibly be due to the fact that he is trashing a country that has had a tumultuous history with China and thus Chinese people are more likely to shrug it off. Also can't be the brand of jingoism that Chinese nationals are known to espouse in times of such public issues.
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On January 27 2019 03:42 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2019 03:29 yuisaka wrote:On January 27 2019 03:21 Charoisaur wrote:On January 27 2019 03:14 yuisaka wrote:On January 27 2019 03:09 Charoisaur wrote:On January 27 2019 03:07 yuisaka wrote:On January 27 2019 03:02 Charoisaur wrote:On January 27 2019 02:55 Puosu wrote:On January 27 2019 02:45 Charoisaur wrote:
Everyone here bashing TIME should post the most political incorrect conversation they've ever held publicly right now.
But I guess you're all angels and have never held a political incorrect conversation, right? Never used a slur word while talking to friends? is your point that because this isn't the first time someone is saying horrible shit we should just shrug it off ? you'd think the prevalence of this kind of speech would get you more pissed off! My point is that he has done something probably 90+ % of the poulation have done at one point (even if not as extreme) but because it got leaked and people like to play white knight SJW on the internet he gets crucified for it. Even the current US president was recorded making derogatory comments about women. I believe most people never said fuk a country's women and kill them,I dont know how German people think propably 90+ % of the poulation have done at one point that's why I said "even if not as extreme" but the point is the same. Dark humor is really common. fuk a girl is common fuk the whole country's women is not common fuck the whole country's women and kill them is unacceptable. you want kill a chicken and eat it is common you want kill a human and eat it is unacceptable.There have a bottom line.Not everything can use the excuse "Dark humor" You seem to not get the concept of a joke. If I say I want to kill and eat a human to someone their reaction certainly wouldn't be "whoa saying that is unacceptable, I don't want to have anything to do with you anymore" I mean normal people will not accept those jokes,I know people hang around with same kind of people,they think it is funny .Nazi don't think they are doing wrong but we are normal people, we know what are acceptable what aren't. When I challenged you on this nonsense last time you stopped posting for a while. I guess you're back.
I just feel waste my time to reply you thats all,if you feel you win or happy thats good for you
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On January 27 2019 03:43 gpanda.sc2 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2019 03:04 William paradise wrote:On January 27 2019 03:02 Charoisaur wrote:On January 27 2019 02:55 Puosu wrote:On January 27 2019 02:45 Charoisaur wrote:
Everyone here bashing TIME should post the most political incorrect conversation they've ever held publicly right now.
But I guess you're all angels and have never held a political incorrect conversation, right? Never used a slur word while talking to friends? is your point that because this isn't the first time someone is saying horrible shit we should just shrug it off ? you'd think the prevalence of this kind of speech would get you more pissed off! My point is that he has done something probably 90+ % of the poulation have done at one point (even if not as extreme) but because it got leaked and people like to play white knight SJW on the internet he gets crucified for it. Even the current US president was recorded making derogatory comments about women. And the #metomovement was born out of that #metoo = me + too, me = victim Is this OP a victim?
I think the OP/others should post this to Korean community to see what Korean would think, we just think this is offensive conversation and it is bad that's all as none of us are victim
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On January 27 2019 03:59 yuisaka wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2019 03:43 gpanda.sc2 wrote:On January 27 2019 03:04 William paradise wrote:On January 27 2019 03:02 Charoisaur wrote:On January 27 2019 02:55 Puosu wrote:On January 27 2019 02:45 Charoisaur wrote:
Everyone here bashing TIME should post the most political incorrect conversation they've ever held publicly right now.
But I guess you're all angels and have never held a political incorrect conversation, right? Never used a slur word while talking to friends? is your point that because this isn't the first time someone is saying horrible shit we should just shrug it off ? you'd think the prevalence of this kind of speech would get you more pissed off! My point is that he has done something probably 90+ % of the poulation have done at one point (even if not as extreme) but because it got leaked and people like to play white knight SJW on the internet he gets crucified for it. Even the current US president was recorded making derogatory comments about women. And the #metomovement was born out of that #metoo = me + too, me = victim Is this OP a victim? I think the OP/others should post this to Korean community to see what Korean would think, we just think this is offensive conversation and it is bad that's all as none of us are victim
Based on existing evidence, I think testing whether the Korean community will be offended by anything is a great waste of time. They will.
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On January 27 2019 02:45 Charoisaur wrote:
Everyone here bashing TIME should post the most political incorrect conversation they've ever held publicly right now.
But I guess you're all angels and have never held a political incorrect conversation, right? Never used a slur word while talking to friends?
I'm no angel, but I sure haven't ethnically slurred anybody while talking to friends. Maybe it's normal to you; it certainly isn't to me.
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On January 27 2019 04:04 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2019 03:59 yuisaka wrote:On January 27 2019 03:43 gpanda.sc2 wrote:On January 27 2019 03:04 William paradise wrote:On January 27 2019 03:02 Charoisaur wrote:On January 27 2019 02:55 Puosu wrote:On January 27 2019 02:45 Charoisaur wrote:
Everyone here bashing TIME should post the most political incorrect conversation they've ever held publicly right now.
But I guess you're all angels and have never held a political incorrect conversation, right? Never used a slur word while talking to friends? is your point that because this isn't the first time someone is saying horrible shit we should just shrug it off ? you'd think the prevalence of this kind of speech would get you more pissed off! My point is that he has done something probably 90+ % of the poulation have done at one point (even if not as extreme) but because it got leaked and people like to play white knight SJW on the internet he gets crucified for it. Even the current US president was recorded making derogatory comments about women. And the #metomovement was born out of that #metoo = me + too, me = victim Is this OP a victim? I think the OP/others should post this to Korean community to see what Korean would think, we just think this is offensive conversation and it is bad that's all as none of us are victim Based on existing evidence, I think testing whether the Korean community will be offended by anything is a great waste of time. They will.
Victims have the right to know what is going on so it is not waste of time
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On January 27 2019 03:59 yuisaka wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2019 03:43 gpanda.sc2 wrote:On January 27 2019 03:04 William paradise wrote:On January 27 2019 03:02 Charoisaur wrote:On January 27 2019 02:55 Puosu wrote:On January 27 2019 02:45 Charoisaur wrote:
Everyone here bashing TIME should post the most political incorrect conversation they've ever held publicly right now.
But I guess you're all angels and have never held a political incorrect conversation, right? Never used a slur word while talking to friends? is your point that because this isn't the first time someone is saying horrible shit we should just shrug it off ? you'd think the prevalence of this kind of speech would get you more pissed off! My point is that he has done something probably 90+ % of the poulation have done at one point (even if not as extreme) but because it got leaked and people like to play white knight SJW on the internet he gets crucified for it. Even the current US president was recorded making derogatory comments about women. And the #metomovement was born out of that #metoo = me + too, me = victim Is this OP a victim? I think the OP/others should post this to Korean community to see what Korean would think, we just think this is offensive conversation and it is bad that's all as none of us are victim
In criminal case, the plaintiff has not to be the victim. But this not, this is more like civil cases, the OP should be a victim. And what's the most important, no matter criminal or civil cases, the plaintiff has the burden of proof. if the OP/other post this to KR community, can they prove anything?
Don't you think the whole OP just waste TL community's time？
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China6329 Posts
1) it's not a joke, it's TIME's rant on a situation he has no control over, but his language of choice was not something he would use in a public manner, since he was in a private conversation. He is furious but he is not on malicious intentions. Progamers of his age, and to be honest Chinese players as a whole tend to be not very sensitive, and this should be a harsh lesson, but again, this is not something meant to be taken at face value and do not represent TIME as a personality.
2) I do not, in anyway condone racism and misogyny against women, and I will not defend TIME's words, but I want to emphasize that it was a private conversation among "friends", which was not supposed to see the light of day. It's also incredibly STUPID for the certain one to release it. There is no explanation other than pure in-sensitiveness and, well, stupidity.
3) This thread just smells fishy to me. I think you probably can see it by now. The translation was also extremely misleading, a lot of his words are not to be understood in a literal sense.
It's fucking 3am and I'm utterly dumbfounded by how this end up.
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On January 27 2019 04:09 yuisaka wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2019 04:04 opisska wrote:On January 27 2019 03:59 yuisaka wrote:On January 27 2019 03:43 gpanda.sc2 wrote:On January 27 2019 03:04 William paradise wrote:On January 27 2019 03:02 Charoisaur wrote:On January 27 2019 02:55 Puosu wrote:On January 27 2019 02:45 Charoisaur wrote:
Everyone here bashing TIME should post the most political incorrect conversation they've ever held publicly right now.
But I guess you're all angels and have never held a political incorrect conversation, right? Never used a slur word while talking to friends? is your point that because this isn't the first time someone is saying horrible shit we should just shrug it off ? you'd think the prevalence of this kind of speech would get you more pissed off! My point is that he has done something probably 90+ % of the poulation have done at one point (even if not as extreme) but because it got leaked and people like to play white knight SJW on the internet he gets crucified for it. Even the current US president was recorded making derogatory comments about women. And the #metomovement was born out of that #metoo = me + too, me = victim Is this OP a victim? I think the OP/others should post this to Korean community to see what Korean would think, we just think this is offensive conversation and it is bad that's all as none of us are victim Based on existing evidence, I think testing whether the Korean community will be offended by anything is a great waste of time. They will. Victims have the right to know what is going on so it is not waste of time
Who is the victim? Are you 100% sure the chat speech were from Time? However we are 100% sure that Time is a victim of the OP.
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On January 27 2019 04:09 yuisaka wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2019 04:04 opisska wrote:On January 27 2019 03:59 yuisaka wrote:On January 27 2019 03:43 gpanda.sc2 wrote:On January 27 2019 03:04 William paradise wrote:On January 27 2019 03:02 Charoisaur wrote:On January 27 2019 02:55 Puosu wrote:On January 27 2019 02:45 Charoisaur wrote:
Everyone here bashing TIME should post the most political incorrect conversation they've ever held publicly right now.
But I guess you're all angels and have never held a political incorrect conversation, right? Never used a slur word while talking to friends? is your point that because this isn't the first time someone is saying horrible shit we should just shrug it off ? you'd think the prevalence of this kind of speech would get you more pissed off! My point is that he has done something probably 90+ % of the poulation have done at one point (even if not as extreme) but because it got leaked and people like to play white knight SJW on the internet he gets crucified for it. Even the current US president was recorded making derogatory comments about women. And the #metomovement was born out of that #metoo = me + too, me = victim Is this OP a victim? I think the OP/others should post this to Korean community to see what Korean would think, we just think this is offensive conversation and it is bad that's all as none of us are victim Based on existing evidence, I think testing whether the Korean community will be offended by anything is a great waste of time. They will. Victims have the right to know what is going on so it is not waste of time
Now you are being ridiculous. What "victims" for fuck sake?
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Fun fact: apparently Scboy deleted all the posts about this event in their own Chinese SC2 forum and banned everyone that comments on this TL post in their own channel.
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I don't have account for TL before, but as I see this 10 page long topic about TIME's issue, I would like to say someting for him so I just registed this account.
It is more than three years that I have followed TIME's match. As far as know about TIME, he has got a lot of KR friends including byun, while getting good relation with Scarlett (otherwise Scarlett would not have joined Newbee after TIME). I think he is definitely NOT a racist against KR or anti-female anyway.
I am still not sure if that screenshot is a real stuff, anyway it is very easy to make such pictures with a PS or even simpler software. If it turn out to be ture, it is really a misconduct for TIME and he should apologize for that. But even in that case I still believe he is just very angry about the GSL modification at the last moment when he is already at airport with a ticket of hundreds of dollars to be wasted.
It is not possible to convince all of you, but I really trust TIME and think he is a good guy. (But he should apopogize if he really said that nasty words.)
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On January 27 2019 04:22 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2019 04:09 yuisaka wrote:On January 27 2019 04:04 opisska wrote:On January 27 2019 03:59 yuisaka wrote:On January 27 2019 03:43 gpanda.sc2 wrote:On January 27 2019 03:04 William paradise wrote:On January 27 2019 03:02 Charoisaur wrote:On January 27 2019 02:55 Puosu wrote:On January 27 2019 02:45 Charoisaur wrote:
Everyone here bashing TIME should post the most political incorrect conversation they've ever held publicly right now.
But I guess you're all angels and have never held a political incorrect conversation, right? Never used a slur word while talking to friends? is your point that because this isn't the first time someone is saying horrible shit we should just shrug it off ? you'd think the prevalence of this kind of speech would get you more pissed off! My point is that he has done something probably 90+ % of the poulation have done at one point (even if not as extreme) but because it got leaked and people like to play white knight SJW on the internet he gets crucified for it. Even the current US president was recorded making derogatory comments about women. And the #metomovement was born out of that #metoo = me + too, me = victim Is this OP a victim? I think the OP/others should post this to Korean community to see what Korean would think, we just think this is offensive conversation and it is bad that's all as none of us are victim Based on existing evidence, I think testing whether the Korean community will be offended by anything is a great waste of time. They will. Victims have the right to know what is going on so it is not waste of time Now you are being ridiculous. What "victims" for fuck sake?
I dont know why you so emotional, calm down, ok? is there anything to do with you or what?
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On January 27 2019 04:24 parrotpitaya wrote:
I don't have account for TL before, but as I see this 10 page long topic about TIME's issue, I would like to say someting for him so I just registed this account.
It is more than three years that I have followed TIME's match. As far as know about TIME, he has got a lot of KR friends including byun, while getting good relation with Scarlett (otherwise Scarlett would not have joined Newbee after TIME). I think he is definitely NOT a racist against KR or anti-female anyway.
I am still not sure if that screenshot is a real stuff, anyway it is very easy to make such pictures with a PS or even simpler software. If it turn out to be ture, it is really a misconduct for TIME and he should apologize for that. But even in that case I still believe he is just very angry about the GSL modification at the last moment when he is already at airport with a ticket of hundreds of dollars to be wasted.
It is not possible to convince all of you, but I really trust TIME and think he is a good guy. (But he should apopogize if he really said that nasty words.)
as i have not followed TIME as long as you ill take your word on him and yes if this a false smear then I would apologize to him but if true then yes i think he would need to at least apologies and yea I don't think Scarlett would join a team with a person who truly believes these things but you never know.
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On January 27 2019 04:20 gpanda.sc2 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2019 04:09 yuisaka wrote:On January 27 2019 04:04 opisska wrote:On January 27 2019 03:59 yuisaka wrote:On January 27 2019 03:43 gpanda.sc2 wrote:On January 27 2019 03:04 William paradise wrote:On January 27 2019 03:02 Charoisaur wrote:On January 27 2019 02:55 Puosu wrote:On January 27 2019 02:45 Charoisaur wrote:
Everyone here bashing TIME should post the most political incorrect conversation they've ever held publicly right now.
But I guess you're all angels and have never held a political incorrect conversation, right? Never used a slur word while talking to friends? is your point that because this isn't the first time someone is saying horrible shit we should just shrug it off ? you'd think the prevalence of this kind of speech would get you more pissed off! My point is that he has done something probably 90+ % of the poulation have done at one point (even if not as extreme) but because it got leaked and people like to play white knight SJW on the internet he gets crucified for it. Even the current US president was recorded making derogatory comments about women. And the #metomovement was born out of that #metoo = me + too, me = victim Is this OP a victim? I think the OP/others should post this to Korean community to see what Korean would think, we just think this is offensive conversation and it is bad that's all as none of us are victim Based on existing evidence, I think testing whether the Korean community will be offended by anything is a great waste of time. They will. Victims have the right to know what is going on so it is not waste of time Who is the victim? Are you 100% sure the chat speech were from Time? However we are 100% sure that Time is a victim of the OP.
I think it should be true as the original poster is his sugar daddy/godfather , just dont know what kind of relationship between them but close enough
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