EPTTIME's Controversial Comments - Page 13
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uiotui
United States54 Posts
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William paradise
1753 Posts
On January 27 2019 10:10 Mountain_Lee wrote: Misleading translations. the post of Weibo just means that "ooops ,@newbee, he's not a cute boy~" although Time's words made some people feel uncomfortable, but basicly he just chose wrong words and driven by anger. He's not a perfect, but as I know, he is a good teenager, and almost all the chinese starcraft fans like him, not just because of his game skills. He have lots of korean friends, just like TY Soo Parting.... also have good relationship with Scarlett and Special, he's not a racist or a female hater, which is highlighted by some acconts and tried to use it attack him. I believe some other shits was involved. Competitions of game and commerce are not always clean. Considering of his age, this is a big mistake but it's not unforgivable. And it's a lesson, as the best SC2 pro player of China, Time should take care of his behavior much more. this basically this and if the translation is wrong or misleading then that needs to be corrected. | ||
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-Kyo-
Japan1927 Posts
On January 27 2019 01:51 NonY wrote: i'd watch a murderer play starcraft. i dont care.... ... Well, I wasn't gonna post again... but I, at the very least, need to leave this as a stand alone quote xD | ||
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7hincat
12 Posts
He has some korean friends and Scarlett is his good friend. He will pay for the bill every time when they hang out having meal. So plz don't say he's a racist or female hater with only a screenshot that could even be PSed. If it's true, TIME should apologize but that does not mean he should be banned. After all he just heard the new GSL rules and wasted a plane ticket. Most importantly, this is a private conversation with real close friends. Think anout it, did you ever say anything like this when you're really angry with ur friends? The words are very dirty but that can only prove TIME is not very educated, after all a young boy who started to play professional game when he was 14 may be uneducated.He'll learn a lesson from this. | ||
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William paradise
1753 Posts
On January 27 2019 10:30 7hincat wrote: TIME is not a racist or female hater. He has some korean friends and Scarlett is his good friend. He will pay for the bill every time when they hang out having meal. So plz don't say he's a racist or female hater with only a screenshot that could even be PSed. If it's true, TIME should apologize but that does not mean he should be banned. After all he just heard the new GSL rules and wasted a plane ticket. Most importantly, this is a private conversation with real close friends. Think anout it, did you ever say anything like this when you're really angry with ur friends? The words are very dirty but that can only prove TIME is not very educated, after all a young boy who started to play professional game when he was 14 may be uneducated.He'll learn a lesson from this. well for the hole wasted plane ticket gsl should pay him back or something that was just not right. as for the texts I hope he just takes a lesson as you never know what someone even if you think is a good friend might post of what you think might be private talks. | ||
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a1005747470
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On January 27 2019 10:30 7hincat wrote: TIME is not a racist or female hater. He has some korean friends and Scarlett is his good friend. He will pay for the bill every time when they hang out having meal. So plz don't say he's a racist or female hater with only a screenshot that could even be PSed. If it's true, TIME should apologize but that does not mean he should be banned. After all he just heard the new GSL rules and wasted a plane ticket. Most importantly, this is a private conversation with real close friends. Think anout it, did you ever say anything like this when you're really angry with ur friends? The words are very dirty but that can only prove TIME is not very educated, after all a young boy who started to play professional game when he was 14 may be uneducated.He'll learn a lesson from this. Cant agree more. | ||
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EpochSoC
China10 Posts
poor speaking English join TL forum a few minutes ago (so it's OK if you guys don't believe this,but please judge after watching the whole thing I posted) ---- I'm gonna tell you something about today's post about TIME's controversial and what's the chinese truly see this whole thing first of all you should see this pictures ![[image loading]](https://i.loli.net/2019/01/26/5c4c744f23847.png) ![[image loading]](https://i.loli.net/2019/01/26/5c4c744f2542f.jpg) ![[image loading]](https://i.loli.net/2019/01/26/5c4c7529a11b5.png) yes,these three accounts is newly registered(to be clearly it's today) and only have a few post posted(just like me) it's not hard for Chinese people to see these accounts is registered JUST FOR THE POST TIME'SCONTROVERSIAL and what did they do? ![[image loading]](https://i.loli.net/2019/01/26/5c4c75731a8f0.png) ![[image loading]](https://i.loli.net/2019/01/26/5c4c75733d6f7.png) In chinese websites and forums,a clearly consensus is made that some chinese want this thing to happen and want to ruin time's career even time as a famous player shouldn't say something as that but the angry can be comprehend and the private conversation should not be posted,in private IM chinese usually speak more And in the origin picture from WEIBO.com,it's true,but the only reason why put this picture out there is FOR FUN,the word'爸爸 (I'm your)dad'can be offence when you said to stranger but to friends it's just like a bad nickname,and of course WEIBO is not runs by barbarian and won't allow a offence "爸爸" show for long The ugly words and sentences is basiclly Chinese's moth3rfuck3r or something like that basiclly,chinese abuse is all around female relatives of the targit,and use the word "Cao操/Gan干" for both "fu`ck" and "beat" in english When translate this sentences literal,it means fu`ck Korean women fu`ck those Korean all gonna to die and more that seems to be sexism But in Chinese environment,it's only a angry guy who's banned from GSL and said something attack the country where the GSL is hold(guess more abuse about blizzard) In chinese thie sentences is completely NON-SEXISM When some chinese translate the PRIVATE CONVERSATION with some strange or even vicious thoughts like end a chinese player's career the only thing i can tell is in chinese internet this kind of stupid thing(for post the pictures in to tl and reddit knowing they'll make great misunderstanding ever get people ruined) can really happen and most the chinese is really bothered by this kind of things | ||
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ChinClassic
19 Posts
On January 27 2019 11:23 EpochSoC wrote: from China poor speaking English join TL forum a few minutes ago (so it's OK if you guys don't believe this,but please judge after watching the whole thing I posted) ---- I'm gonna tell you something about today's post about TIME's controversial and what's the chinese truly see this whole thing first of all you should see this pictures yes,these three accounts is newly registered(to be clearly it's today) and only have a few post posted(just like me) it's not hard for Chinese people to see these accounts is registered JUST FOR THE POST TIME'SCONTROVERSIAL and what did they do? In chinese websites and forums,a clearly consensus is made that some chinese want this thing to happen and want to ruin time's career even time as a famous player shouldn't say something as that but the angry can be comprehend and the private conversation should not be posted,in private IM chinese usually speak more And in the origin picture from WEIBO.com,it's true,but the only reason why put this picture out there is FOR FUN,the word'爸爸 (I'm your)dad'can be offence when you said to stranger but to friends it's just like a bad nickname,and of course WEIBO is not runs by barbarian and won't allow a offence "爸爸" show for long The ugly words and sentences is basiclly Chinese's moth3rfuck3r or something like that basiclly,chinese abuse is all around female relatives of the targit,and use the word "Cao操/Gan干" for both "fu`ck" and "beat" in english When translate this sentences literal,it means fu`ck Korean women fu`ck those Korean all gonna to die and more that seems to be sexism But in Chinese environment,it's only a angry guy who's banned from GSL and said something attack the country where the GSL is hold(guess more abuse about blizzard) In chinese thie sentences is completely NON-SEXISM When some chinese translate the PRIVATE CONVERSATION with some strange or even vicious thoughts like end a chinese player's career the only thing i can tell is in chinese internet this kind of stupid thing(for post the pictures in to tl and reddit knowing they'll make great misunderstanding ever get people ruined) can really happen and most the chinese is really bothered by this kind of things LOL, now "fk korean women until they pass out" is not sexist. Good for you. | ||
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William paradise
1753 Posts
On January 27 2019 11:23 EpochSoC wrote: well I will say gsl is partly at fault for not informing him he's not allowed to play before buying plane ticket and such that really wasn't right and to the hole trying to destroy a person career since this really might a smear campaign by someone against TIME I am just going to sincerely apologize.though that isn't going to help if there's damage to his reputation already. His team needs to maybe takes steps with him to make sure this doesn't happen again. I am saying this as there's some people with different translation or what was said.from China poor speaking English join TL forum a few minutes ago (so it's OK if you guys don't believe this,but please judge after watching the whole thing I posted) ---- I'm gonna tell you something about today's post about TIME's controversial and what's the chinese truly see this whole thing first of all you should see this pictures yes,these three accounts is newly registered(to be clearly it's today) and only have a few post posted(just like me) it's not hard for Chinese people to see these accounts is registered JUST FOR THE POST TIME'SCONTROVERSIAL and what did they do? In chinese websites and forums,a clearly consensus is made that some chinese want this thing to happen and want to ruin time's career even time as a famous player shouldn't say something as that but the angry can be comprehend and the private conversation should not be posted,in private IM chinese usually speak more And in the origin picture from WEIBO.com,it's true,but the only reason why put this picture out there is FOR FUN,the word'爸爸 (I'm your)dad'can be offence when you said to stranger but to friends it's just like a bad nickname,and of course WEIBO is not runs by barbarian and won't allow a offence "爸爸" show for long The ugly words and sentences is basiclly Chinese's moth3rfuck3r or something like that basiclly,chinese abuse is all around female relatives of the targit,and use the word "Cao操/Gan干" for both "fu`ck" and "beat" in english When translate this sentences literal,it means fu`ck Korean women fu`ck those Korean all gonna to die and more that seems to be sexism But in Chinese environment,it's only a angry guy who's banned from GSL and said something attack the country where the GSL is hold(guess more abuse about blizzard) In chinese thie sentences is completely NON-SEXISM When some chinese translate the PRIVATE CONVERSATION with some strange or even vicious thoughts like end a chinese player's career the only thing i can tell is in chinese internet this kind of stupid thing(for post the pictures in to tl and reddit knowing they'll make great misunderstanding ever get people ruined) can really happen and most the chinese is really bothered by this kind of things | ||
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7hincat
12 Posts
On January 27 2019 11:30 ChinClassic wrote: LOL, now "fk korean women until they pass out" is not sexist. Good for you. thats not the main idea of his post. are you trying to misleading the topic so u can attack him more easily? | ||
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EpochSoC
China10 Posts
On January 27 2019 11:32 William paradise wrote: well I will say gsl is partly at fault for not informing him he's not allowed to play before buying plane ticket and such that really wasn't right and to the hole trying to destroy a person career since this really might a smear campaign by someone against TIME I am just going to sincerely apologize.though that isn't going to help if there's damage to his reputation already. His team needs to maybe takes steps with him to make sure this doesn't happen again. I am saying this as there's some people with different translation or what was said. well in china the "sexist" words and "racist" words is common in even public forums the "racist" word bangzi can be used by fans of the korean singer if the word is only in the circle of the fans in fact chinese has a -zi or other form word for nearly all the neighbouring and close country ,like maozi for russians,houzi for vietnamese and guizi for japanese it's basiclly slangs even memes in these years and this is nothing like the n word to black people and for the "sexist" words,well,when people say moth3rfuck3r,nobody will think"why they don't speak 'fath3rfuck3r,it;s sexist!'",right? | ||
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gbzwg
4 Posts
Definitly the OP posted some missleading translation and wants to destroy TIME, same as certain posters here. It's just like to translate "I f*k you" into "I want some sexual interaction with you". To be honest, these "sexism" words are similar to F word and do not really have sexism meaning. And for the "racism" word "bangzi", I believe it's similar to "John Bull", not polite of course but also not that serious. After all, these are really PRIVATE comments. However TIME's comments are offensive (F word offensive of course) and easy to be misunderstood. I believe he should apologize for these comments, but to ban TIME is definetly beyond neccessary. As a young boy, TIME lacks good education and needs to learn the art of speaking. | ||
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William paradise
1753 Posts
On January 27 2019 12:11 gbzwg wrote: Chinese palyer. Just registered. Definitly the OP posted some missleading translation and wants to destroy TIME, same as certain posters here. It's just like to translate "I f*k you" into "I want some sexual interaction with you". To be honest, these "sexism" words are similar to F word and do not really have sexism meaning. And for the "racism" word "bangzi", I believe it's similar to "John Bull", not polite of course but also not that serious. After all, these are really PRIVATE comments. However TIME's comments are offensive (F word offensive of course) and easy to be misunderstood. I believe he should apologize for these comments, but to ban TIME is definetly beyond neccessary. As a young boy, TIME lacks good education and needs to learn the art of speaking. yea no theres not a need for a ban a warning yea but ban no. | ||
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tcb
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Mountain_Lee
87 Posts
On January 27 2019 12:38 tcb wrote: It‘s funny that several CHINESE talking IN ENGLISH in the forum. well，maybe teamliquid can add an sever in China，now is unstable and rely on VPN. oh, I see, you are chinese... | ||
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tcb
49 Posts
On January 27 2019 12:46 Mountain_Lee wrote: well，maybe teamliquid can add an sever in China，now is unstable and rely on VPN. oh, I see, you are chinese... But I never intentionally join an argument.Someone join tl only aim to create disturbance. | ||
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tcb
49 Posts
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Mountain_Lee
87 Posts
On January 27 2019 13:02 tcb wrote: loool. we can't speak chinese there, but we can post pictures, right? | ||
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v5872012
35 Posts
First, TIME does not have any sexism or racism toward women or korean. Instead of this, he have a good friendship with Scarlett and many korean progamer such as sOO, Innovation and TY. Second, the reason why he said something racism about korean is mostly because the region-lock by GSL, just before he gonna depart to Korea. He almost stayed up all night and had to cancel his flight since the region-lock email which Blizzard still not confirm. Third, the person who made this private communication to public is a notorious guy named Shenkui (that's actually his nickname). He is a pretty successful person in business but he always post out something improper comment in public. He is a relative of Xiaose and have a good relationship with TIME. TIME thinks he is a trustworthy guy so he said words like that to him, just to complain what region-lock done to him. However Shenkui post this on his weibo and been re-post in here without context. I think it's a huge misunderstanding between what he just said and what he originally meant to. Though he need to apologize for it, I don't think he should be severly punished by GSL or Blizzard once he apologize. Sry about my bad English skill. | ||
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