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Still no Co-Op Commander Guide on Tychus, Zeratul?

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PShin92
Profile Joined September 2018
6 Posts
December 21 2018 18:57 GMT
#1
I guess Team Liquid still needs more time?
imJealous
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1382 Posts
December 22 2018 03:32 GMT
#2
Those guides are made by community members on the speed running discord. TL is just nice enough to feature them and give them a platform for all their hard work.
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
December 22 2018 08:47 GMT
#3
I know both are missing but I would understand that there are no guides. Many guides were published before revamps and are not updated at all.

I would not write a guide because they will be outdated anyway, the same with buildorders guides.
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billynasty
Profile Joined October 2014
United States260 Posts
December 22 2018 22:27 GMT
#4
Perhaps the guides are delayed due to how much depth there is to both commanders?
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[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
December 26 2018 12:48 GMT
#5
I rather have a good guide later, than a rushed one. The guides so far show a lot of in-depth experience, having the players thinking outside the box and actually trying different options. This takes time.
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imJealous
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1382 Posts
December 27 2018 16:05 GMT
#6
I think the community team that came together to make these happen has mostly moved on to other things.

If I understand correctly, these guides were originally Monk's pet project, gathering input and collaboration from the speed running community. With him now busy working at Blizzard, a few of the team members took over and pushed through to finish the commander lineup prior to the release of Tychus.

But I don't think anyone has really stepped forward to take over the lead organizer role going forward. I peeked in the discord channel where they worked on these and it looks like there are a few people posting bits and pieces of data and strategies about Tychus and Zeratul sporadically every now and then, but it doesn't look like anyone is currently taking the reins to collect and organize everything, coordinate reviews of the contributions and confirm quality of submissions, proof read everything, coordinate with the layout artist, follow up with people to get things completed in a timely manner, etc etc etc.

These were a pretty major effort that involved dozens of people behind the scenes just self organizing and volunteering some pretty significant time and effort just because they felt like making something awesome for the community. Maybe momentum on these guides will pick up again at some point, but I wouldn't hold your breath in the mean time.

These were a DIY community effort, so if it really irks you that there hasn't been a new one, get off your ass and start coordinating your own effort to put create what you want to see.
... In life very little goes right. "Right" meaning the way one expected and the way one wanted it. One has no right to want or expect anything.
Chimaron
Profile Joined November 2017
Denmark25 Posts
December 27 2018 19:21 GMT
#7
Hey there,

The team we used to build these guides was broken up with the completion of the Han and Horner guide. We have had theorycrafters work on Tychus and Zeratul out of their own choice, but we've been missing several key folks in order to actually get any work done, including an artist, dedicated speedrunners, and people willing to put in time to provide new current content and review what we already have. We also do not currently have any agreement with TeamLiquid about the publishing of these guides.

But more people have been putting in work as of late. It is still possible that these guides may release... eventually. Just don't hold your breath.

Essentially, imJealous is right on the money with his above post.
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CaffeineCaffeine
Profile Joined December 2018
16 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-27 19:26:37
December 27 2018 19:25 GMT
#8
@imJealous @Chimaron is this an open Discord channel I could jump into?
Chimaron
Profile Joined November 2017
Denmark25 Posts
December 27 2018 19:35 GMT
#9
On December 28 2018 04:25 CaffeineCaffeine wrote:
@imJealous @Chimaron is this an open Discord channel I could jump into?


It is kept as a private Discord channel by tradition of monk, to have a place where more dedicated players can theorycraft, talk about speedruns, share resources, or contribute to those guides.

If you wanted somewhere to just hang out and talk smack, YuriPrime's public discord (https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft2coop/comments/95w92p/ingame_group_discord_server/) may be more to your liking. If you were interested in speedrunning or contributing to the guides, shoot me a PM.
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