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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
On September 19 2018 05:47 Fango wrote: Yeah but he was refering to Dave4 claiming that Serral winning 5 tournaments makes him #1, when four of them were against lesser opponents. Ah ok, I get what you mean. I read the comment more as Serral has never played / won against koreans, which is not exactly the case. | ||
Poopi
France12924 Posts
On September 20 2018 01:54 yht9657 wrote: You're forgetting Reynor, best chance to beat a EU zerg prodigy is another EU zerg prodigy. Reynor didn’t qualify by losing to Serral at WCS. Rogue had troubles against Serral in the past so I don’t think him or Dark would be that hard for Serral. | ||
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
On September 19 2018 07:18 KaiserCommander wrote: Ha, again this. GSL vs The World is NOT a GSL, it's an invitational event where most of it's participants does not even prepare that much. Please be less tacky, Serral is No.2, until proven otherwise in Blizzcon. I had no intention of 'proving' that Serral is No 1., but rather pointing out that Serral indeed has proven himself against the best players on Earth. ...and what makes you think that professional gamers don't prepare for a KRW 30 million tournament? | ||
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CaptainBurnTurn
United States80 Posts
By winning five in a row. | ||
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
On September 19 2018 17:00 Charoisaur wrote: Dark sweeping WCS circuit would be improbable? Have you seen his winrate against foreigners? True lol | ||
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DomeGetta
480 Posts
On September 19 2018 22:19 Dave4 wrote: Look I don't like to keep arguments going like this, but I think you'd find Serrals undefeated run across 5 premier tournaments eclipses Taejas run. Serral did win a GSL tournament which is one of the five above, you need to check your facts - and yes he crushed more than just foreigners, he took out Innovation, Dark and Stats in that one run which is ridiculous for any player in the world. Even Maru was unable to do this which is why he dropped out - but Serral beat Maru as well during this run in a 1v1. So no he doesn't just kill foreigners, and yes he is certainly in the Bonjwas discussion after a sustained run like this. No actually. I dont at all based on Taeja having to beat other Koreans in those tournaments he won. I think its a much better comparison in fact than to try to size Serral up to Maru. You are literally agreeing with me with your words lol..serral beat inno dark and stats in one single day tournament..this is a "unbelievable" feat as you say..and one that every code s competitor faces every season plus some if they want to win 1 code s. Maru won 3? My point is you cant put a single one of Serrals accomplishments in the same league as winning code S even one time. Gsl vs the world is by far the most impressive thing but it doesnt compare to code s..not even 1 nevermind 3. Blizzcon is an opportunity for 100 to put urself in the conversation..the amount of prep going in is tremendous unlike a super tournament or a gsl vs the world. Im hyped to watch. And obviously we will have to see him in code S at some point which im also hyped to watch | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
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orllyfools
United States153 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On September 20 2018 15:49 FFW_Rude wrote: I want Serral to win Blizzcon just so that region lock disappear It won't and we both know it. But maybe they would region locked Serral  That would be fun | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16072 Posts
On September 19 2018 22:19 Dave4 wrote: Look I don't like to keep arguments going like this, but I think you'd find Serrals undefeated run across 5 premier tournaments eclipses Taejas run. Serral did win a GSL tournament which is one of the five above, you need to check your facts - and yes he crushed more than just foreigners, he took out Innovation, Dark and Stats in that one run which is ridiculous for any player in the world. Even Maru was unable to do this which is why he dropped out - but Serral beat Maru as well during this run in a 1v1. So no he doesn't just kill foreigners, and yes he is certainly in the Bonjwas discussion after a sustained run like this. Okay enough - it's getting absurd. You realize TaeJa won 5 tournaments in 2013 just like Serral while beating top tier koreans in 4 of them unlike Serral who did it in 1? And even with that most people didn't think he's the best in the world because people are realistic when it comes to koreans. (I don't even want to mention the b-word because that's completely absurd) I know I'm just getting baited here but I think the comparison to TaeJa is pretty good which is why I respond. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On September 20 2018 16:17 Charoisaur wrote: Okay enough - it's getting absurd. You realize TaeJa won 5 tournaments in 2013 just like Serral while beating top tier koreans in 4 of them unlike Serral who did it in 1? And even with that most people didn't think he's the best in the world because people are realistic when it comes to koreans. (I don't even want to mention the b-word because that's completely absurd) I know I'm just getting baited here but I think the comparison to TaeJa is pretty good which is why I respond. And Taeja played Terran, when was the last time some foreigner banjo was Terran? And he was probably the best lategame TvP player out there, god I miss Summer Taeja  | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium4100 Posts
so what prevents Serral from doing that? | ||
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Locutos
Brazil273 Posts
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Acacia
3 Posts
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hiroshOne
Poland425 Posts
For me, Maru and Serral are both no1. U say Serral dominated potentially weaker - foreign scene, but in the other hand Maru dominated lagging Korean scene, which is not what it used to be back in a day. There are really only few players there that are competitive. Korean Zergs are far behind foreigner Zergs where it comes to understanding of current meta. When u watch Serral play and compare it to Rogue's or Dark's or soO''s it's pretty much obvious that he understands his race much better. That's only my opinion, so don't be harsh on that. | ||
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Jerom
Netherlands588 Posts
On September 19 2018 02:47 Dave4 wrote: I think we have to be in just about the first ever situation where a player has won 5 premier tournaments in under a year and still is apparently 2nd only, while some are still claiming he is not even as good as a bunch of other players too. Very sad for Serral, he should be number 1 but keeps being rejected. Tfw 4 WCS and a GSL vs the world are being rated as more prestigious than 3 GSL code S and a WESG. Some people are insane. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On September 21 2018 14:38 hiroshOne wrote: For me, Maru and Serral are both no1. U say Serral dominated potentially weaker - foreign scene, but in the other hand Maru dominated lagging Korean scene, which is not what it used to be back in a day. There are really only few players there that are competitive. What you say is true, but the korean scene is still much greater then it's foreign counterpart in terms of skill. I don't see how this is debatable. Take Serral out of the picture and the best foreigners have done this year is Neeb's GSL run. IEM Katowice, WeSG, GSL vs the World were all landslides. | ||
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hiroshOne
Poland425 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On September 22 2018 05:04 hiroshOne wrote: U forgot about Reynor who knocked out Classic- top tier korean protoss- out of Code S. And that's it. One BO3!!! HOLY MOLY! What a bonjwa! (also their first match was won by Classic) \ Edit> let's be fair, Reynor didn't show much this year in terms of "vs. Koreans", Neeb showed us more. He has a bright future ahead, that's for sure, but ATM we can freely forget him in these relations IMO. | ||
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