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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
May 19 2007 15:40 GMT
#41
On May 19 2007 19:39 b_unnies wrote:
hmm in the video it looks like he got buffed when he stepped onto the pedals

No it's his pants comming to losen up.
Blizz didn't do a very good job there for like 1 second because the pant's orange colored leg looks just like a skin tone and it looks as if his ankles just got buffed up
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
Phantom
Profile Joined September 2004
Canada2151 Posts
May 19 2007 15:44 GMT
#42
SECTION 856.A:
-SENTENCE. CRYOGENIC CONFINEMENT <LIFE TERM NO PAROLE>

CURRENT STATUS: SOLITARY CRYOGENIC


TERRAN MARINE MILITARY STATUS: --- ACTIVE ---


---------------------
ADDITIONAL NOTES:

quote:"HELL, ITS ABOUT TIME"


maybe i'm just making things up in my mind, but maybe he's blizzard's metaphor for what some people has coined as the "forgotten sons" or something...cryogenic confinment? ;o ;o
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/members/Phantom
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
May 19 2007 16:04 GMT
#43
On May 19 2007 19:54 Myrmidon wrote:
Wasn't there stuff about genetic manipulation to induce augmented muscles/physique in the original?


Yeah, basically everyone who got carted off to the middle of nowhere was somehow "altered" or "mutated" in some way, which is why they wanted them off Earth.
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
May 19 2007 16:10 GMT
#44
On May 20 2007 00:40 evanthebouncy~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2007 19:39 b_unnies wrote:
hmm in the video it looks like he got buffed when he stepped onto the pedals

No it's his pants comming to losen up.
Blizz didn't do a very good job there for like 1 second because the pant's orange colored leg looks just like a skin tone and it looks as if his ankles just got buffed up


I agree it looked like his skin in the youtube video but in the original video with better quality its easy to see its the pants.
king_zork
Profile Joined December 2006
United States32 Posts
May 19 2007 16:35 GMT
#45
On May 19 2007 14:52 CharlieMurphy wrote:
from the cinematic.
I did alot of pausing and I discovered all this information from the cinematic.

INMATE 626
TYCHUS J. FINGLAY
SEX: Male
P.O.B. : Mar Sara
D.O.B. : 10/20/2468
Height: 6'7"
Weight 363
Hair: GREY
Eye: BLUE

CRIMINAL RECORDS:

NARC-XXXXXX-FOK0913 GT
THEFT-XXXXX-DIF0910 GT
JAILBREAK-XXXXX-KID0921 GT
GROSS INSURBORDINATION-GIB0937 GT
PIRACY-XXXXX-UID8089 GT
GRAND LARCENY- DUL2936
MURDER-XXXXX- NSC92572 GT

SUSPICION OF:

SUSPECT NARC-TFFK URD5019
SUSPECT-MURDER-XXXXXXXXX EWY9010
SUSPECT-MURDER-XXXXXXXX FUJ7890


---SENTENCE DEATH (SUSPENDED)---

SECTION 472.1:
-COMMUTED: INDENTURE TERRAN MARINE CORP.
<LIFE SERVICE>

SECTION 856.A:
-SENTENCE. CRYOGENIC CONFINEMENT <LIFE TERM NO PAROLE>

CURRENT STATUS: SOLITARY CRYOGENIC


TERRAN MARINE MILITARY STATUS: --- ACTIVE ---


---------------------
ADDITIONAL NOTES:

quote:"HELL, ITS ABOUT TIME"

TATTOO ACROSS SHOULDERS/BACK [HEAVEN'S REJECTS?]

TATTOO ON LEFT KNUCLES: P-A-I-N (SNAKE AROUND A CROSS ABOVE INDEX FINGER)

SCAR ACROSS STOMACHE

SMOKES CIGARS

SKINTONE: WHITE

FOOT RESTRAINT NUMBER: NIX019(0?)5791-14E

MARINE SHOE NUMBER: PL-97 1153 R

MARINE SHOULDER NUMBER: 1785-66

ALPHA MIDSECTION: 01-937

13 TALLYS ETCHED INTO LEFT HAND ARMOR

MARINE SUIT NUMBER 435: SPORTING A LOGO OF A FEMALE INSIDE A SPADE ON LEFT SHOULDER.

'SUCK IT DOWN' WITH A SKULL/CROSSBONES ON CHEST PLATE.


[image loading]


aw damn most of this shit was already on the blizzard website.


Dad?
protoss is real mans race
Capt. Moroni
Profile Joined December 2003
United States533 Posts
May 19 2007 17:56 GMT
#46
Anti-hero? Don't think so.

Most marines are criminals who are forced to undergo re-socialization, according to Vanilla's booklet.
Oderint dum metuant
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
May 19 2007 18:03 GMT
#47
Marine macro from 10 Barracks will never be the same
Freyr
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States500 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-19 18:42:52
May 19 2007 18:32 GMT
#48
On May 20 2007 01:04 LastRomantic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2007 19:54 Myrmidon wrote:
Wasn't there stuff about genetic manipulation to induce augmented muscles/physique in the original?


Yeah, basically everyone who got carted off to the middle of nowhere was somehow "altered" or "mutated" in some way, which is why they wanted them off Earth.


Not sure where you're getting that.

Er...the original colonists primarily consisted of criminals, dissidents, any kind of social undesirables and essentially anyone who could threaten the power of the government.

While mutants may have fallen into some of these categories the purging of Earth did not target "alterees"

Anti-hero? Don't think so.

Most marines are criminals who are forced to undergo re-socialization, according to Vanilla's booklet.


Judging from the current success rate in criminal rehabilitation do you think that even so far in the future techniques could be sufficiently advanced so as to change someone with that kind of criminal record into the proverbial "good guy"?

Most likely the "resocialization" (aka brainwashing) can accomplish just enough to instill some sort of pride in their unit and military accomplishments and comradeship and so forth. (ie enough to allow them to function in the realm of military discipline while preserving the traditionally distasteful traits that might serve them well while facing an enemy)

I think anti-hero is a fairly correct term for this character.
d00m2k
Profile Joined April 2007
United States12 Posts
May 20 2007 04:57 GMT
#49
As I understood it, the video of the marine getting his armor is to show you how Terran "train" marines so fast in the barracks: they basically take prisoners, put armor on them, hand them a gun and send them in the middle of the enemy.
crazie-penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States1253 Posts
May 20 2007 05:16 GMT
#50
On May 20 2007 03:32 Freyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2007 01:04 LastRomantic wrote:
On May 19 2007 19:54 Myrmidon wrote:
Wasn't there stuff about genetic manipulation to induce augmented muscles/physique in the original?


Yeah, basically everyone who got carted off to the middle of nowhere was somehow "altered" or "mutated" in some way, which is why they wanted them off Earth.


Not sure where you're getting that.

Er...the original colonists primarily consisted of criminals, dissidents, any kind of social undesirables and essentially anyone who could threaten the power of the government.

While mutants may have fallen into some of these categories the purging of Earth did not target "alterees"

Show nested quote +
Anti-hero? Don't think so.

Most marines are criminals who are forced to undergo re-socialization, according to Vanilla's booklet.


Judging from the current success rate in criminal rehabilitation do you think that even so far in the future techniques could be sufficiently advanced so as to change someone with that kind of criminal record into the proverbial "good guy"?

Most likely the "resocialization" (aka brainwashing) can accomplish just enough to instill some sort of pride in their unit and military accomplishments and comradeship and so forth. (ie enough to allow them to function in the realm of military discipline while preserving the traditionally distasteful traits that might serve them well while facing an enemy)

I think anti-hero is a fairly correct term for this character.


Dude, everyone got these stuff straight from the instruction manual of the original starcraft CD. The resocialization was basically relayering someone's memories with other false ones, to get them to work for the confed marine corp.

XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
May 20 2007 05:45 GMT
#51
Now we need to wonder how the UED trains their marine?

obviously much better since they bother to give them medics.
TeRRan`UseR
Profile Joined December 2004
Canada692 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-20 06:15:53
May 20 2007 06:09 GMT
#52
He just looks like a confederate marine. The confederates used mostly re-socialized criminals, or kidnapped civilians, re-socialized them, got them buffed up (they were pretty much brainwashed and their passed lives were forgotten), and sent them off to fight to the death against the zerg. In the Starcraft novel "Speed of Darkness" it says that the marines are put in cryogenic tubes or something inbetween service, and have weekly resocializations. They're basically 'mindless' pwns who only know one thing; how to fight and how to serve the confederacy.

However, his armor is blue, which isn't a colour of the Confederacy. But the fact that he's in orange pants and shackles implies that he is, because only the confederates use criminals. The other rebel factions (ie. Sons of Korhal/Reynor) are 'free' soldiers. The UED also consisted of your average civilian recruit/draft.

Lastly, he has a skull and crossbones on his shoulder. The skull and crossbones is the logo of Omega Squadron, the most ruthless and violent faction of Confederates there is. Formed by only the most savage criminals and most intensely resocialized soldiers. They never made an appearence in Starcraft/BroodWar campaignes. However, their faction colour is black, not blue.

References of info:
Starcraft 1 booklet
Starcraft novels

Maybe the whole thing is just another loop hole in Blizzards lore. Ie: the whole lore controversy with Burning Crusade.
AKAs FreeloSS @USwest Freel0ss @Europe
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
May 20 2007 06:16 GMT
#53
On May 20 2007 02:56 Capt. Moroni wrote:
Anti-hero? Don't think so.

Most marines are criminals who are forced to undergo re-socialization, according to Vanilla's booklet.

iirc all terrans who were first send out into space were criminals~~
Enter a Uh
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
May 20 2007 07:12 GMT
#54
On May 20 2007 15:09 TeRRan`UseR wrote:
He just looks like a confederate marine. The confederates used mostly re-socialized criminals, or kidnapped civilians, re-socialized them, got them buffed up (they were pretty much brainwashed and their passed lives were forgotten), and sent them off to fight to the death against the zerg. In the Starcraft novel "Speed of Darkness" it says that the marines are put in cryogenic tubes or something inbetween service, and have weekly resocializations. They're basically 'mindless' pwns who only know one thing; how to fight and how to serve the confederacy.

However, his armor is blue, which isn't a colour of the Confederacy. But the fact that he's in orange pants and shackles implies that he is, because only the confederates use criminals. The other rebel factions (ie. Sons of Korhal/Reynor) are 'free' soldiers. The UED also consisted of your average civilian recruit/draft.

Lastly, he has a skull and crossbones on his shoulder. The skull and crossbones is the logo of Omega Squadron, the most ruthless and violent faction of Confederates there is. Formed by only the most savage criminals and most intensely resocialized soldiers. They never made an appearence in Starcraft/BroodWar campaignes. However, their faction colour is black, not blue.

References of info:
Starcraft 1 booklet
Starcraft novels

Maybe the whole thing is just another loop hole in Blizzards lore. Ie: the whole lore controversy with Burning Crusade.

I'm impressed
TeRRan`UseR
Profile Joined December 2004
Canada692 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-20 15:04:59
May 20 2007 15:04 GMT
#55
Thanks! I'm thinking he's definately part of some new Confederate faction. If we all remember, Edmund Duke and a long with most of Alpha squadron were killed by Karrigan near the end of BroodWar. With duke gone, and the back bone of the Confederate forces destroyed, they'd need something new.

I'm assuming that quite a few years have passed since Broodwar (based on the "Blizzard Artwork" video that shows a ginger/brown haired guy who's greying at the very end; an aging Jim Reynor?) and Tychus is apart of a new faction of Confederates; a faction that has been in the making for the whole time between the end of Brood War until now. Karrigan let all the survivors of the final battle live. Mengsk begins to rebuild his shattered army, and Reynor and Zeratual dissapear; we never hear anything of the Confederates. I think Tychus is the product of a new faction of Terrans that has been in the making for a long time to finally defeat the zerg; maybe this explains how hes 363lbs of muscle? You don't get like that over night. Imagine an entire faction of marines of this physique; sounds like a new weapon to me.
AKAs FreeloSS @USwest Freel0ss @Europe
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
May 25 2007 03:30 GMT
#56
But Tychus is not from earth it says he was born on Mar Sara.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
orionClan
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada188 Posts
May 25 2007 04:05 GMT
#57
6 foot 7 incheas thats like the size of Shaq but two times his weight class. But remember anyone whos in jail is doing mass weights thats just there passtime as ours is Battle.net so BOO YA go to jail get some pecks quit sc join the terrans ! sounds like a goal.....

haaa.....
Good'Ol Outdoors Ay?
gg_hertzz
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
2152 Posts
May 25 2007 04:22 GMT
#58
Shaq is 7' and is around 300 lbs.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-25 07:47:34
May 25 2007 07:47 GMT
#59
On May 25 2007 13:05 orionClan wrote:
6 foot 7 incheas thats like the size of Shaq but two times his weight class. But remember anyone whos in jail is doing mass weights thats just there passtime as ours is Battle.net so BOO YA go to jail get some pecks quit sc join the terrans ! sounds like a goal.....

haaa.....


On May 25 2007 13:22 gg_hertzz wrote:
Shaq is 7' and is around 300 lbs.


rofl ban that noob.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
May 25 2007 08:00 GMT
#60
Marine > Shaq in a fight though
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