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Starcraft2 statistics winning in tournaments.

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ohtiger
Profile Joined April 2018
5 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-20 16:03:28
April 02 2018 05:02 GMT
#1
legend:
player numbers: ~ protoss-X; terran-X; zerg-X; random-X; unknowrace-X
win as like: protoss-X; terran-X; zerg-X.

- "~" (no full information about player's race nocount)
- "unknowrace"-X(like "~" but with count)
p.s. - in tournaments page not have information for what race players will play. I cannot counting them like random race.

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Major Tournaments


Wings of Liberty Tournaments
2010
total:
player numbers: ~ p-50; t-71; z-53; r-1.
win as like: p-2 ; t-3 ; z-2.

2011
total:
player numbers: ~ p-256 ; t-275; z-220; r-3.
win as like: p-13 ; t-15 ; z-15.

2012
total:
player numbers: ~ p-309; t-273; z-335; r-0.
win as like: p-20 ; t-10 ; z-17.

2013
total:
player numbers: ~ p-26; t-12; z-25; r-0.
win as like: p-2 ; t-0 ; z-3.

Total players: ~ p-641; t-631; z-633; r-4.
Total win: p-37; t-28; z-37.
-----------------------------------------

Heart of the Swarm
Tournaments
2013
total:
player numbers: ~ p-180; t-123; z-164; r-1.
win as like: p-20 ; t-6 ; z-8.

2014
total:
player numbers: ~ p-276; t-183; z-295; r-1.
win as like: p-21 ; t-8 ; z-17.

2015
total:
player numbers: ~ p-174; t-109; z-206; r-3.
win as like: p-7 ; t-4 ; z-16.

Total players: ~ p-630; t-415; z-568; r-5.
Total win : p-48; t-18; z-41.
-----------------------------------------

Legacy of the Void Tournaments

2015
total:
player numbers: p-13; t-9; z-10; r-0.
win as like: p-1 ; t-0 ; z-2.

2016
total:
player numbers: p-154; t-179; z-253; r-0; unknowrace-64
win as like: p-13 ; t-9 ; z-17.

2017
total:
player numbers: p-188; t-203; z-320; r-7; unknowrace-37
win as like: p-13; t-17 ; z-14.

2018

total:
player numbers: p-54; t-75; z-111; r-5; ur-0.
win as like: p-6; t-4 ; z-1.
- last tournament - Mar20 - Mar24.

Total players: p-409; t-466; z-594; r-12; unknowrace-101.
Total win : p-33; t-30; z-34.
-----------------------------------------

informations take from: (Wiki)Major Tournaments

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Premier Tournaments


Wings of Liberty Tournaments

2010

total:
player numbers: p-105; t-133; z-89; r-1; u-190(MGL).
win as: p-3 ; t-4 ; z-3.
base on 10 the tournament

2011
total:
player numbers: p-485 ; t-583; z-509; r-11; u-1139(MGL and 64 of them are GSL).
win as: p-9 ; t-20 ; z-11.
base on 46 the tournament

2012
total:
player numbers: p-584; t-512; z-580; r-6; u-668(NGK and 140 of them are IGN).
win as: p-14 ; t-13 ; z-16.
base on 43 the tournament

2013
total:
player numbers: p-31; t-29; z-36; r-.
win as: p-1; t-; z-1.
base on 2 the tournament

Total players: p-1205; t-1257; z-1214; r-18; u-1997.
Total win: p-27; t-37; z-31.
-----------------------------------------

Heart of the Swarm Tournaments

2013

total:
player numbers: p-413; t-331; z-435; r-5; u-176(WCS and little GSL).
win as: p-9 ; t-14 ; z-8.
base on 31 the tournament

2014
total:
player numbers: p-429; t-291; z-455; r-5; u-578(WCS and 268 of them are MLG).
win as: p-15 ; t-13 ; z-8.
base on 36 the tournament

2015
total:
player numbers: p-243; t-188; z-265; r-3; u-64(WCS).
win as: p-11 ; t-3 ; z-5.
base on 20 the tournament

Total players: p-1085; t-810; z-1155; r-13; u-818.
Total win : p-35; t-30; z-21.
-----------------------------------------

Legacy of the Void Tournaments

2015
total:
player numbers: p-18; t-14; z-24; r-; u-.
win as: p- ; t-1 ; z-1.
base on 2 the tournament

2016
total:
player numbers: p-248; t-184; z-282; r-1; u-.
win as: p-8; t-6 ; z-7.
base on 21 the tournament

2017
total:
player numbers: p-177; t-183; z-224; r-1; u-62(WCS).
win as: p-8 ; t-6 ; z-5.
base on 19 the tournament

2018
total:
player numbers: p-80; t-69; z-102; r-; u-.
win as: p- 1; t-2 ; z-3.
base on 6 the tournament
- last tournament: Apr 05 - Apr 08; (Legacy of the Void Patch 4.2.2 – Patch 4.2.3)

Total players: p-523; t-450; z-632; r-2; u-62.
Total win : p-17; t-15; z-16.
-----------------------------------------

information take: (Wiki)Premier Tournaments

p.s. I must make better statistic for biggest tournaments like GSL, WCS, IEM and DreamHack.
update: 20.4.2018

Kalera
Profile Joined January 2018
United States338 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-02 05:38:20
April 02 2018 05:30 GMT
#2
So you're not including Premier tournaments? Also, your "total win" for LOTV is incorrect (appears to be copy-pasted from HOTS). It should be P-33, T-30, Z-34, assuming your "win as like" numbers are correct.

I'm curious if you had a particular reason for posting all this data.
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
April 02 2018 06:01 GMT
#3
Can you make a graph with pictures and colors ?
ohtiger
Profile Joined April 2018
5 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-02 07:10:43
April 02 2018 06:54 GMT
#4
On April 02 2018 14:30 Kalera wrote:
So you're not including Premier tournaments? Also, your "total win" for LOTV is incorrect (appears to be copy-pasted from HOTS). It should be P-33, T-30, Z-34, assuming your "win as like" numbers are correct.

I'm curious if you had a particular reason for posting all this data.

base on (Wiki)Major Tournaments

Yep, "total win" is incorrect beucase some of tournament is only with "total players" no full info about player as race. I can tell you only is around ~100players, unknow race player. So just put on everyone race +33 up.

I was curious about statistics and balance.

@phodacbiet

Next time I will make it. I wanna make calculate only for biggest tournaments. Because there is true numbers.
getg00d
Profile Joined April 2017
United States120 Posts
April 02 2018 08:43 GMT
#5
whoa, really neat
https://www.twitch.tv/getg00d
Tyrhanius
Profile Joined April 2011
France947 Posts
April 02 2018 11:01 GMT
#6
It's a bit uninteresting to take major events, which are actually some minor events.

So yeah, Neeb win in the events in USA, scarlett in canada, toodming, iasonu in china, seither in australia, stephano at dubai lol.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-02 14:02:23
April 02 2018 14:01 GMT
#7
cherry picking tournament winners ignores a lot of data about who competed in the tournament as well as which players may have been more skilled or in better form. i think the fixation on title victories seriously weakens public discourse on design. we would need many many more tournaments per year to start drawing meaningful conclusions solely from the champions
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BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5219 Posts
April 02 2018 14:19 GMT
#8
On April 02 2018 23:01 brickrd wrote:
cherry picking tournament winners ignores a lot of data about who competed in the tournament as well as which players may have been more skilled or in better form. i think the fixation on title victories seriously weakens public discourse on design. we would need many many more tournaments per year to start drawing meaningful conclusions solely from the champions


Totally agree. Nestea and Fruitdealer won in an era where Terran was clearly the strongest race. Their success was the exception, not the rule.
Pentarp
Profile Joined August 2015
227 Posts
April 02 2018 14:32 GMT
#9
On April 02 2018 23:19 BronzeKnee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2018 23:01 brickrd wrote:
cherry picking tournament winners ignores a lot of data about who competed in the tournament as well as which players may have been more skilled or in better form. i think the fixation on title victories seriously weakens public discourse on design. we would need many many more tournaments per year to start drawing meaningful conclusions solely from the champions


Totally agree. Nestea and Fruitdealer won in an era where Terran was clearly the strongest race. Their success was the exception, not the rule.


Maru won the latest GSL when Terran was clearly the weakest race. His success is the exception, not the rule.
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Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
April 02 2018 14:36 GMT
#10
On April 02 2018 14:02 ohtiger wrote:
legend:


2011
total:
player numbers: ~ p-256 ; t-275; z-220; r-3.
win as like: p-13 ; t-15 ; z-15.


What a good year


2012
total:
player numbers: ~ p-309; t-273; z-335; r-0.
win as like: p-20 ; t-10 ; z-17.

2013
total:
player numbers: ~ p-26; t-12; z-25; r-0.
win as like: p-2 ; t-0 ; z-3.


Welcome to ZParcraft II


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Heart of the Swarm
Tournaments
2013
total:
player numbers: ~ p-180; t-123; z-164; r-1.
win as like: p-20 ; t-6 ; z-8.

2014
total:
player numbers: ~ p-276; t-183; z-295; r-1.
win as like: p-21 ; t-8 ; z-17.


Blink era

2015
total:
player numbers: ~ p-174; t-109; z-206; r-3.
win as like: p-7 ; t-4 ; z-16.

Total players: ~ p-630; t-415; z-568; r-5.
Total win : p-48; t-18; z-41.


"zerg weak race"


Seriously why Major tournaments instead of Premier ?


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NinjaNight
Profile Joined January 2018
428 Posts
April 02 2018 14:38 GMT
#11
wtf does "win as like" mean?
johax
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden165 Posts
April 02 2018 20:29 GMT
#12
On April 02 2018 23:01 brickrd wrote:
cherry picking tournament winners ignores a lot of data about who competed in the tournament as well as which players may have been more skilled or in better form. i think the fixation on title victories seriously weakens public discourse on design. we would need many many more tournaments per year to start drawing meaningful conclusions solely from the champions

how is it cherry picking if hes not even making an argument out of the data
Uberduder
Profile Joined May 2013
United States13 Posts
April 02 2018 20:51 GMT
#13
Yeah I'm going to have to call out your metric, by premier tournaments its actually 82 for terran, 76 for protoss, and 69 for zerg, with zerg lagging the furthest in the last 2 years. Also by prize money its not even close, terran overwhelmingly has the most. This is including foreigner only premier events, if you count only koreans its going to be even more dominant for terran.
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't.
ohtiger
Profile Joined April 2018
5 Posts
April 20 2018 16:05 GMT
#14
update

Premier Tournaments added, soon will put some graphics
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