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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19351 Posts
On March 19 2018 22:58 ReachTheSky wrote: Nothing is stopping a zerg from building a hatchery anywhere on the map to create creep for the spines/spores to burrow on. Float a command center across the map and build bunkers wherever it floats. | ||
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WaesumNinja
210 Posts
On March 19 2018 23:27 fds wrote: Making bio 2/2 upgrade faster is very interesting idea. Cheaper and faster armory might be problematic due to faster access to helbats and thors. Maybe simple solution would be to postpone armory requirement, so you would need it only for 3/3. I don't think armory should be a requirement for bio upgrades at all. | ||
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ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
On March 19 2018 23:29 BisuDagger wrote: Float a command center across the map and build bunkers wherever it floats. Except that if you make this change to the terran bunker, It removes terran aggression options and makes the game less interactive. Less interactive games=bad for viewership because they are boring to watch and we aren't here to watch someone play simcity or listen to pointless caster banter for the first several minutes of a game. | ||
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Tyrhanius
France947 Posts
On March 20 2018 00:34 ReachTheSky wrote: Except that if you make this change to the terran bunker, It removes terran aggression options and makes the game less interactive. Less interactive games=bad for viewership because they are boring to watch and we aren't here to watch someone play simcity or listen to pointless caster banter for the first several minutes of a game. So you're for letting overlord drop T1 ? because it's exactly the same | ||
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joshap
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On March 20 2018 04:18 Tyrhanius wrote: So you're for letting overlord drop T1 ? because it's exactly the same Lmao ling drops and bunker rushes are as different as they get. Basically a perfect antithesis. Stationary defense structure for ranged units against melee vs Mobile transport unit for melee units against ranged | ||
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ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
On March 20 2018 04:18 Tyrhanius wrote: So you're for letting overlord drop T1 ? because it's exactly the same I personally prefer zerg to still have it in their bag of goodies since it's fun to execute and fun to watch. Maybe they should have buffed the sentry to allow protoss the early scouting instead, who knows. I've heard some protosses say they will still go stargate anyway due to the benefits it offers. I can't say which solution is the best in the long run. I think with the change blizzard made toss gets to play even greedier now. | ||
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ypslala
Burma545 Posts
On March 19 2018 23:29 BisuDagger wrote: Float a command center across the map and build bunkers wherever it floats. if maru had to do that first, he would have lost the finals and 120000 US $ if i am right. there is no income while floating the CC and no scvs can be produced. ________________ and if you have to build a hatch first, you need to spend 300 minerals. and if you want to get creep from overlords, you need to have a lair first! and the terran player gets a refund for the bunker... you can't compare spine crawler with bunker rush at all. | ||
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ypslala
Burma545 Posts
On March 20 2018 00:34 ReachTheSky wrote: Except that if you make this change to the terran bunker, It removes terran aggression options and makes the game less interactive. Less interactive games=bad for viewership because they are boring to watch and we aren't here to watch someone play simcity or listen to pointless caster banter for the first several minutes of a game. the World Electronic Sports Games 2017 finals game 7 was a disaster for the viewership. totally disapointing. | ||
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Poixyois
16 Posts
On March 20 2018 09:58 ypslala wrote: the World Electronic Sports Games 2017 finals game 7 was a disaster for the viewership. totally disapointing. Can you back that up with a survey? | ||
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JayuSC2
Austria32 Posts
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KR_4EVR
316 Posts
On March 20 2018 00:07 WaesumNinja wrote: I don't think armory should be a requirement for bio upgrades at all. Personally I think that a lot of balance issues in TvP could be solved by halving the reactor build time. | ||
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KR_4EVR
316 Posts
On March 21 2018 03:39 JayuSC2 wrote: Raven missile in it's current state is just bad for the game, there is no counterplay to it for zerg at least. It outranges most units and the missiles travel way too fast to make proper splitting possible (even the best zergs can't manage to split against it as we saw many times). Can't believe they really wanna keept it, they should rather buff terran in other ways, if their winrate is really that bad. First, It's not strictly uncounterable. Use fungals and parasitic bombs to decimate multiple ravens. Second, I agree that there should be a brief delay to enable splitting. | ||
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KR_4EVR
316 Posts
On March 20 2018 09:58 ypslala wrote: the World Electronic Sports Games 2017 finals game 7 was a disaster for the viewership. totally disapointing. How do you mean? Most tournament games with best of 7 have at least 2 rush games. This one had 3. Re-watch both of $O$'s Blizzcon finals. In terms of viewer numbers, I think that a lot of people found the time of broadcast inconvenient; that's all. | ||
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DomeGetta
480 Posts
On March 21 2018 03:39 JayuSC2 wrote: Raven missile in it's current state is just bad for the game, there is no counterplay to it for zerg at least. It outranges most units and the missiles travel way too fast to make proper splitting possible (even the best zergs can't manage to split against it as we saw many times). Can't believe they really wanna keept it, they should rather buff terran in other ways, if their winrate is really that bad. Why do people keep parroting this nonsense? Did you even watch WESG finals? If you did and you are still saying this it's really bizarre. I'm OK if you don't like watching it (yet some how I bet you enjoy watching Broods a move across the map), but to say it has no counter is straight up wrong - watch the games rofl. | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On March 21 2018 03:39 JayuSC2 wrote: Raven missile in it's current state is just bad for the game, there is no counterplay to it for zerg at least. It outranges most units and the missiles travel way too fast to make proper splitting possible (even the best zergs can't manage to split against it as we saw many times). Can't believe they really wanna keept it, they should rather buff terran in other ways, if their winrate is really that bad. Dark's counterplay was to split and friendly fire onto SCVs: Instead of screaming how broken it is on the forums, try watching what the pros like Dark do. Anyone who actually watched the WESG finals knows that Maru didn't rely on Ravens to win at all. | ||
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