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INnoVation wins GSL Code S, defeating sOs 4-3 - Page 3
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On September 17 2017 04:54 Carminedust wrote: i could care less who the GOAT or not . What impresses me is how long it took someone to win 3 GSL Titles after Nestea MVP and he who shall not be named. and lets be honest half of people thought it would be zest who would do it ...or we are counting Zest's GSL Global Champ win as a GSL Title ? Did we count the blizzcon cup as a GSL Title for he who shall not be named ? Life only won 2 GSL Code S titles.... He won a Blizzard Cup too, but that's not a Code S title any more than the GSL World Championship Mvp won, or the GSL Global Championship Zest won, or the GSL vs the World INnoVation won. Mvp, Nestea, and now INnoVation are the only ones who have won 3 GSL Code S titles. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On September 17 2017 01:18 Fran_ wrote: Seriously, spoilers. How hard is it not to spoil the result in the title? Seriously, how hard is it to just not visit a forum if you don't want spoilers? Congrats to Innovation! Glad to see he's still a badass. | ||
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igay
Australia1178 Posts
On September 17 2017 05:41 blade55555 wrote: Seriously, how hard is it to just not visit a forum if you don't want spoilers? Congrats to Innovation! Glad to see he's still a badass. I just can't believe that people still haven't figured out the spoiler free thing. That went pretty much the way I thought it was going to all I can say is inno better take the whole thing now! | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On September 17 2017 05:40 pvsnp wrote: Life only won 2 GSL Code S titles.... He won a Blizzard Cup too, but that's not a Code S title any more than the GSL World Championship Mvp won, or the GSL Global Championship Zest won, or the GSL vs the World INnoVation won. Mvp, Nestea, and now INnoVation are the only ones who have won 3 GSL Code S titles. With the LoTV's Ultra, Life could have won 5 more GSL sadly | ||
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Ja.Y.
United States253 Posts
On September 17 2017 04:54 Carminedust wrote: Mvp, Nestea, and now INnoVation are the only ones who have won 3 GSL Code S titles. Thought that MC had 3 so I had to double check...then I remembered Seed. RIP Congrats Inno! You'll always be 2nd on my list of best Terrans after MMA  | ||
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harmonyxtc
3 Posts
On September 17 2017 06:13 DieuCure wrote: With the LoTV's Ultra, Life could have won 5 more GSL sadly and with 9 gsl per year, inno would have won 10 more GSL sadly | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
edit: Inno really looks in his prime now. It's a shame the other GOAT contenders aren't around to challenge him (MVP, Life, Zest). If they were we could have some serious top level rivalry | ||
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Snijjer
United States989 Posts
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mbriantyne
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On September 17 2017 07:13 mbriantyne wrote: The idea that sOs is not a great player is ridiculous. It is one thing to dislike his style. That is fine. But to claim that he has not been one of the best players over the years is nonsense. A big congratulations to INnoVation. He deserves this win, but anyone who tries to tell himself that Inno was head and shoulders above sOs is delusional. You may not like how sOs plays, but that was an incredibly close series that turned on a few key moments. It took everything Inno had to survive this finals, Inno was the best player of this GSL because he is the one holding the trophy at the end. Any arguments over who is good and who is not based on your playstyle preferences is silly. sOs has had a great run making 2 finals and a semi out of the last 4 GSL's. He has not performed well outside of those tournaments since IEM Taipei 2016. He can erase a lot of those bad memories if he manages to perform well at ST2. It would be a lot of fun to see him at Blizzcon again. Oh yeah i agree with this. His results in code s speak louder than antifans (and i really don't like him/his gameplay) You don't produce these results while not being good. His "base skill" (whatever that means exactly) might be lower than Inno's for example, but he made it a close series and he could have won it for sure. Respect! I wouldn't even be surprised if sOs wins blizzcon (if he makes it and i actually kinda hope he does at this point) | ||
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
On September 17 2017 07:13 mbriantyne wrote: The idea that sOs is not a great player is ridiculous. It is one thing to dislike his style. That is fine. But to claim that he has not been one of the best players over the years is nonsense. A big congratulations to INnoVation. He deserves this win, but anyone who tries to tell himself that Inno was head and shoulders above sOs is delusional. You may not like how sOs plays, but that was an incredibly close series that turned on a few key moments. It took everything Inno had to survive this finals, Inno was the best player of this GSL because he is the one holding the trophy at the end. Any arguments over who is good and who is not based on your playstyle preferences is silly. sOs has had a great run making 2 finals and a semi out of the last 4 GSL's. He has not performed well outside of those tournaments since IEM Taipei 2016. He can erase a lot of those bad memories if he manages to perform well at ST2. It would be a lot of fun to see him at Blizzcon again. Innovation played one of his worse PvT series this year, looked really bad and clueless today. While sOs was playing the games of his life. Inno still won 4-3. | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On September 17 2017 07:20 DieuCure wrote: Happy birthday Thanks On September 17 2017 07:20 Morbidius wrote: Innovation played one of his worse PvT series this year, looked really bad and lost today. While sOs was playing the games of his life. Inno still won 4-3. Well Innovation's TvP didn't look impressive in SSL tbh. sOs made him play this way though, i think it's unreasonable to say that Inno played way below his level and that's the only reason sOs made it close  | ||
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DSh1
292 Posts
I'm sad for sOs since I wanted to see him at BlizzCon. Not winning game 2 where he had the advantage, cost sOs the series. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On September 17 2017 07:20 Morbidius wrote: Innovation played one of his worse PvT series this year, looked really bad and lost today. While sOs was playing the games of his life. Inno still won 4-3. TvP is Inno's weakest matchup, but are you really gonna try to devalue sOs's achievement here? "This player's acheivements mean nothing because their opponent played worse than they could have" smh. You can say that about almost any win | ||
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
On September 17 2017 07:31 Fango wrote: TvP is Inno's weakest matchup, but are you really gonna try to devalue sOs's achievement here? "This player's acheivements mean nothing because their opponent played worse than they could have" smh. You can say that about almost any win Not shitting on anyone here, but i won't pretend a pretty mediocre TvP series was extremely high level starcraft, if sOs was half the player people are saying he is he would have won this one 4-0, i can't see a situation where Stats or Classic lose games 2 and 3 here. All in all, this was a pretty low level finals. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17805 Posts
On September 17 2017 07:45 The_Red_Viper wrote: Stats and Classic would approach the games differently in the first place Happy Birthday | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On September 17 2017 07:39 Morbidius wrote: Not shitting on anyone here, but i won't pretend a pretty mediocre TvP series was extremely high level starcraft, if sOs was half the player people are saying he is he would have won this one 4-0, i can't see a situation where Stats or Classic lose games 2 and 3 here. All in all, this was a pretty low level finals. That's the whole point of sOs's MO, to make games ugly and dirty and confusing, because that's where he thrives. Stats would have played a straight-up macro game against Inno because that is where Stats is strongest, and that is what gives Stats the best chance of winning. If sOs tried to play like Stats, Inno would roflstomp him. Macro games are Inno's greatest strength. Which is why sOs did his best to avoid fighting Inno on a level playing field. I dislike sOs's playstyle and would much prefer Stats to have been in the final, but it is disingenuous to claim that Inno was playing horribly. Forcing Inno to play horribly is the whole point of sOs's style. | ||
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