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Riner1212
Profile Joined November 2012
United States337 Posts
June 09 2017 21:03 GMT
#61
TLO what if avilo 5-0 you? then would you considering retiring from the sport?

there is that possibility lol.
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I wasbanned fromthis
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
113 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-09 21:11:32
June 09 2017 21:10 GMT
#62
AlexGPunkt
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany258 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-09 21:27:57
June 09 2017 21:23 GMT
#63
On June 10 2017 05:17 AbouSV wrote:
Wow:



Thats what i like to see. I said it before and say it again, I would gladly make a donation for this!!!

On June 10 2017 05:21 opisska wrote:
I wonder where does matecherino make all the money? Because they surely are happy to pitch in very often.


Every personal information is worth a lot
Edit: also there is a fee for setting up the prize pool

But I really think they do a lot for sc2 and it is great that such a company has interest in supporting the scene!!
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
June 09 2017 21:31 GMT
#64
TL who?

User was warned for this post
DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
June 09 2017 21:35 GMT
#65
If TLO plays one game as Terran I will put $50.00 into the pot.
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Phattyasmo
Profile Joined October 2011
United States69 Posts
June 09 2017 21:46 GMT
#66
I think Avilo should accept; 1 in 5 with those units should be something he can accomplish. Accept the challenge Avilo.
billynasty
Profile Joined October 2014
United States260 Posts
June 09 2017 21:47 GMT
#67
Avilo wont play TLO, he's too afraid. And i dont even mean that as a dig against Avilo, its just the truth. I'd like to see it happen of course, but even though Avilo puts on a big show about how great he thinks he is, I'm pretty sure he knows TLO & players of that caliber are way out of his league.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
June 09 2017 21:48 GMT
#68
I'll be shocked if it happens
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
June 09 2017 21:56 GMT
#69
fun initiative, but avilo thinks like a conspiracy theorist - their strength is twisting logic and reality to appear favorable toward them, and there are no conditions you can establish which will cause people like him to concede their own guilt or flaws. outside of putting his paranoia on display for people to laugh at, it wouldn't accomplish much else. and avilo is good enough at making a clown of himsrlf without TLO's help

id watch it though lol
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Kingsky
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore298 Posts
June 09 2017 22:02 GMT
#70
so is this happening?
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fkncontraband
Profile Joined June 2017
6 Posts
June 09 2017 22:17 GMT
#71
Losing to only basic units would just feed the delusion of zvt imbalance. TLO's T vs avilo's Z would be better to disprove imbalance.
TwiggyWan
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
France342 Posts
June 09 2017 22:19 GMT
#72
On June 10 2017 04:19 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 04:03 Charoisaur wrote:
Avilo won't accept it and honestly I wouldn't either.
If you play in a showmatch where your opponent has such a handicap it's clear that the only purpose of the showmatch is to make fun of you.
If he loses he'll be completely embarrassed and if he wins he gains nothing because everyone will (rightfully) say he won only because of the handicap.


To be fair the skill difference between them is such that any challenge format would be silly.


I vaguely remember something with a cool format between scan and kogeT, scan had to win like 15 maps in a row to take the showmatch victory
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Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-09 22:35:02
June 09 2017 22:34 GMT
#73
Lol Avilo.

He'd be a fool to accept this though (so he just might), unless he really wants the money (600 bucks is 600 bucks), he has nothing to gain and all his dignity, whatever that even is for him, to lose.
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
June 09 2017 22:49 GMT
#74
On June 10 2017 07:17 fkncontraband wrote:
Losing to only basic units would just feed the delusion of zvt imbalance. TLO's T vs avilo's Z would be better to disprove imbalance.


I think Avilo would have a better chance winning in a TvZ to be honest. Avilo's zerg is only lower master while TLO used to main Terran at a pro level.
DinosaurJones
Profile Joined February 2012
United States1000 Posts
June 09 2017 23:24 GMT
#75
I want this to happen.
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2974 Posts
June 09 2017 23:41 GMT
#76
This should happen. If he loses, so what, TLO has been a far better player than him anyway even with the conditions in place. And if Avilo manages to win, $600 ez.

It would be a lose-lose situation to stepping up and doing it.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Spyridon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States997 Posts
June 09 2017 23:44 GMT
#77
Funny following this topic, it began as everyone saying it's a bad idea for TLO, and has shifted in to now everyone saying Avilo would be a fool to accept it...
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
June 09 2017 23:55 GMT
#78
On June 10 2017 06:03 Riner1212 wrote:
TLO what if avilo 5-0 you? then would you considering retiring from the sport?

there is that possibility lol.


The odds of that happening I would put at 1%. Avilo is awful when compared to pros who play the game. There is a reason he's always low GM. I would be shocked if TLO didn't 5-0 him. It's really not hard to beat Avilo.
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Suchbalancemuchwow
Profile Blog Joined November 2015
76 Posts
June 10 2017 00:00 GMT
#79
With these limitations you could quite literally build a couple of cc's infront of your base, make turrets everywhere and camp in your own 2 bases whilst building to 200/200 pure tanks and thors, as the terran ground mecher. After that you can slowly push forward to a 3rd and a 4th. And sit back while the zerg throws useless army after useless army at you until all his 9+ or whatever bases are dried up. I know people like to think of Avilo as the far inferior player but there is no absolutely no way he would lose to a zerg 5 times in a row that has no tools to deal with a maxed out ground mech army.

I don't really see what TLO's is trying to do here apart from acting like a clown for our amusement (Admittedly this is funny). Even if he were to magically prove his point (even though it proves nothing even if he were to win 5 times) that Avilo has no business saying anything about the game, that would just mean that everyone who isn't atleast top 100 gm doesn't have the right to say anything. Which would also include the developers of this game.

It's a bad idea for both players if they cared at all about their reputation. But TLO has thrown that to the wayside lately in his crusade against Avilo's very existence. Avilo's reputation has always been in the gutter....So sure why not.
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2663 Posts
June 10 2017 00:03 GMT
#80
I'm not even sure what he is trying to prove with this.

That he is better than Avilo? I don't think anyone doubts that.

That he strat is imba? Wouldn't that just gave the reason to Avilo?

That mech is not viable in TvZ? Same thing as above.

I mean, I can see it for the money if avilo accepts the challenge but not if hes trying to make a point.
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