• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:59
CEST 07:59
KST 14:59
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call7[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!23Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week2Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles2GSTL Returns in 2026!45Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7
StarCraft 2
General
SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey! Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Announcement IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WORTEX 2026 - Hungarian SC2 Finals Budapest
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 540 Dodge This The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome Mutation # 538 Media Blackout
Brood War
General
New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! 25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 BW General Discussion Looking 4 Yaroslav: Enemy, Korchagin, WCG, Ukraine Pros React To: First 'Fastest' Map in ASL History
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro24 Group F [ASL22] Ro24 Group E Escore Tournament - Season 3 [ASL22] Ro24 Group D
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
The Creator Fan Club MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Young Players Exit Esports E…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3694 users

Potential New Maps from TLMC8 - Page 3

Forum Index > SC2 General
69 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Meepman
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada610 Posts
March 16 2017 23:48 GMT
#41
On March 17 2017 08:07 EESCLuna wrote:
Every map pool is targeted to be hard to defend to protosses. Z and T can drop everywhere on all maps currently. While the season goes on and protosses learn how to stop these agressive styles (only protoss have cheeses right now coz no strategy is allin anymore thanks to the new eco to T and Z) ,they stop playing. 23% now and dropping.




no strategy is all-in??? i can think of a few...
Sure blizzard wouldn't know a good map if it walked up to them but is this real
Fatam
Profile Joined June 2012
1986 Posts
March 16 2017 23:52 GMT
#42
Btw i dont get that sequencer hype at all. Everyone is suddenly a choke-layout fan? Or may be it's innovative? Nope. SPL was played on Maze once. Similar concept. NOTHING extraordinary.


"choke layout fan"? There are some temporary rocks that close the map up a bit, but you have to realize that once a few of those rocks go down it's pretty much the most open map in SC2 history if it makes ladder. If you removed the rocks it would be super Z favored, so they need to be there. Anyhow as plexa said it consistenly gave great games in the tourney. Of course the tourney can be misleading since it's only a handful of games on each map, but it's all we have to go on.
Search "FTM" in SC2 | Latest Maps: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-maps/528528-2-ftm-siegfried-station http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-maps/525489-2-ftm-crimson-aftermath http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-maps/524737-2-ftm-grime
Warcloud
Profile Joined May 2010
United States97 Posts
March 17 2017 00:29 GMT
#43
Please do not remove Honorgrounds.
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2475 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-17 00:42:45
March 17 2017 00:41 GMT
#44
Congrats all!

On one hand I'm happy they want to include Ascension to Aiur, on the other hand I'm sad they want to get rid of Honorgrounds. All the ladder must belong to me!! I'd actually love to do some balance tweaks to Honorgrounds if they were going to keep it in the pool for next season. Although I'm not sure if they'd actually allow that to happen.

I created a map thread for Ascension that has some up to date information as well as some more screenshots if people are interested.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-maps/520148-2-ascension-to-aiur

Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
Phaenoman
Profile Joined February 2013
568 Posts
March 17 2017 00:48 GMT
#45
So the community just gets to decide among specificly chosen maps which one of the map makers gets the money? How can they even consider this rush map a potential ladder addition?
I don't like Blood Boil one bit.
Random is hard work dude...
ihatevideogames
Profile Joined August 2015
570 Posts
March 17 2017 00:55 GMT
#46
Why even hold a map contest with community votes if Blizzard pisses on the community's face again and they go and do their own thing?
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
March 17 2017 02:00 GMT
#47
Paladino is awful, but i gotta say i'm glad honorgrounds is being removed, the xelnaga/brush interaction is the only thing interesting about that map, it is otherwise a free 5 bases map that tends to lead to boring games. At least in my ladder experience, honorgrounds rarely produces good games.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
terrafreako
Profile Joined March 2017
28 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-17 02:12:49
March 17 2017 02:05 GMT
#48
Hello everyone,

First im glad to get near in time informations about the end results.

What i see is all together AWESOME. RETARDED and what so ever.

First of all, sure the old maps need to go, glad we get rid of them finally.

Acenscion to Aiur, Sequencer as expected did it so far so good.
The aweseome thing to me is that blood boil did it, love the layout great job.
Aswell glad that paradise lost and hwangsan didnt make it, also good job im proud of blizzard here i need to say.

Now the more nasty decisions to talk about..
Like what is that? Paladino stays?????????? and Honorgrounds goes offline? u wanna kidding me? Paladino to me is unplayable so instant veto and a wasted map to me again this season. This decision i will never understand.

I understand that blizzard wants to have also a short distance map which is macro oriented ok. But to be honest i dont get it to choose a map which isnt even involved in the contest. Thats like the middle finger to the community im sorry. Like someone said the rush maps were trash and blizzard ignored em aswell so far so good....instead of taking another map of the pool, like paradisia or Acolyte (which is clearly my faourite) or windwaker u take this nasty crapy short distance map which should be macro orientied. Blizzard dont you really get it? Thats impossible. Do you even look how close the bases would be in a macro szenario while the rush distance is very short. Sure some interessting games between 3.4 base and that was it maybe 5th. For more this Map is unuseable, maybe only you add as terran everywhere planetarys or as toss pylons then its kind of ok. So this decision is to me the most annoying one of all.

Overall i can live with the results. Im happy blood boil did it. And 2 decision with the new map and honorgrounds i cant understand. I think you want to keep it mixed but to be honest then take hwangsan straight up with 6 bases and dont make like a map where zerg has no chance if this 7 or 8 bases were taken on this short distance new map.

MY LAST CALL: TAKE PALADINO OUT and REPLACE THE NEW MAP with a map IN THE MAPCONTEST OF TLMC 8

i hope my words got heared, gl hf everyone on the new ones......
MLuneth
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia557 Posts
March 17 2017 02:24 GMT
#49
Glad that windwaker didn't make it in, the layout felt super boring when I played on it.. Dissapointed that Defenders Landing is in the map pool at the same time as Paladino given that they're both rush maps with nat chokes that suck to wall off.
Innovation is a PatchTerran
Waxter88
Profile Joined March 2014
3 Posts
March 17 2017 03:45 GMT
#50
I agree with the people saying that paladino should be removed if another rush map is being added.
Timmay
Profile Joined April 2005
United States112 Posts
March 17 2017 03:58 GMT
#51
On March 17 2017 09:55 ihatevideogames wrote:
Why even hold a map contest with community votes if Blizzard pisses on the community's face again and they go and do their own thing?

The community is awful at choosing maps, and TL polls are a poor way of deciding what the community wants. The only problem with what happened is that Blizzard typically does a poor job judging maps as well.
pooplingpo
Profile Joined March 2017
2 Posts
March 17 2017 09:24 GMT
#52
I wish defender's landing had prettier, less typical colors. But blood boil looks very saucy.
egrimm
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland1201 Posts
March 17 2017 09:55 GMT
#53
On March 17 2017 04:53 Charoisaur wrote:
Wish they'd replace blood boil or defender's landing with windwaker/Hwangsan. Than the mappool would be perfect.

So much this.
I can live with blood boil on ladder but this defender's landing looks awful tbh - instant veto for me.
sOs TY PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55593 Posts
March 17 2017 10:06 GMT
#54
On March 17 2017 18:55 egrimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 04:53 Charoisaur wrote:
Wish they'd replace blood boil or defender's landing with windwaker/Hwangsan. Than the mappool would be perfect.

So much this.
I can live with blood boil on ladder but this defender's landing looks awful tbh - instant veto for me.

They also want to keep Paladino. So you run out of vetoes quick next season if they stick with this.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
egrimm
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland1201 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-17 10:19:12
March 17 2017 10:18 GMT
#55
On March 17 2017 19:06 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 18:55 egrimm wrote:
On March 17 2017 04:53 Charoisaur wrote:
Wish they'd replace blood boil or defender's landing with windwaker/Hwangsan. Than the mappool would be perfect.

So much this.
I can live with blood boil on ladder but this defender's landing looks awful tbh - instant veto for me.

They also want to keep Paladino. So you run out of vetoes quick next season if they stick with this.

Yeah just noticed that :|

The Dream:
Ascension to Aiur + Sequencer + Windwaker + Hwangsan + keep 3 best maps from current pool

It's not on topic but someday I was thinking why couldn't we have bigger mappool like 9 or 11 and more vetos?
After the season blizzard could check which maps were voted the most and replace them with new ones + add map lifespan of idk 2-3 seasons so after that time I had to be replaced.
sOs TY PartinG
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
March 17 2017 10:38 GMT
#56
On March 17 2017 06:04 GreenMash wrote:
TFW there was a map contest and blizz ignores most of the top voted maps

Last TLMC, the top macro map was Apotheosis. Look how well that turned out.
MrMischelito
Profile Joined February 2014
347 Posts
March 17 2017 12:20 GMT
#57
I 'd feel so extatic if I had made a map that everybody would be playing. especially if I'd see real pros take a go at it.
So, huge congrats to the creators of the picks! I hope you enjoy it
traitortotzeench
Profile Joined June 2016
36 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-17 15:26:36
March 17 2017 15:24 GMT
#58
I have never been as exited for a LotV map as I have been for Sequencer, but Blizzard:
1. Please replace Paladino with Hwangsan, Paradisia, Windwaker, Paradise Lost, Acolyte, Asteroid Barricade or Keres Passage.
2. For Defender's Landing please put (preferably above regular health/armor) rocks at natural ramp OR replacing the destructible tower.
3. Check if siege tanks can cover main ramp on Defender's Landing while being behind rocks/tower, and if so please move rocks/tower forward so they cannot.
I look forward to the end of the tyranny of old maps. >:3
zealotstim
Profile Joined February 2015
United States455 Posts
March 17 2017 18:14 GMT
#59
Some of these look almost impossible for zerg, at least from the perspective of a spectator.
MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-17 19:01:38
March 17 2017 19:01 GMT
#60
Proxima station needs to go. That map is horrible.

Honorgrounds is the best of the current maps. There is not need to replace it.

Blizzard please include more macro maps and less rush maps. Most player prefer to play macro games.
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 1m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 129
Trap 24
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 2213
GuemChi 1440
Dewaltoss 132
Soma 131
Icarus 7
Mind 5
Dota 2
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 720
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox480
Mew2King130
Other Games
summit1g5110
C9.Mang0392
WinterStarcraft373
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Light_VIP 10
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2451
• lizZardDota2221
League of Legends
• Lourlo1413
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
4h 1m
Mini vs Calm
Queen vs EffOrt
Patches Events
10h 1m
Replay Cast
18h 1m
The PondCast
1d 4h
Replay Cast
1d 18h
Escore
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
GSL
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
GSL
6 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 22: Qualifier 1
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
META DYMY #4

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 2
RSL Revival: Season 6
Light Tournament 2026
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

BSL 2026 LAN: Kraków
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Calamity Invitational
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.