• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 07:40
CET 13:40
KST 21:40
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book13Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14
Community News
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)1Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker7PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)11Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win2
StarCraft 2
General
How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker Terran Scanner Sweep
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April WardiTV Mondays
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 512 Overclocked The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth Mutation # 510 Safety Violation
Brood War
General
StarCraft player reflex TE scores [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Gypsy to Korea BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Diablo 2 thread ZeroSpace Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
YouTube Thread US Politics Mega-thread Sex and weight loss Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Play, Watch, Drink: Esports …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1770 users

Community Feedback Update - Jan 6 + Jan 10 Update - Page 7

Forum Index > SC2 General
308 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 16 Next All
junkdrop
Profile Joined September 2015
26 Posts
January 09 2017 17:15 GMT
#121
and most of all... u should keep the same tank's damage as always and maybe accelerate a bit the siege animation so that it could shoot earlier.
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
January 10 2017 09:54 GMT
#122
On January 10 2017 02:15 junkdrop wrote:
and most of all... u should keep the same tank's damage as always and maybe accelerate a bit the siege animation so that it could shoot earlier.


The entire point of the siege tank is the be already sieged. Why would you reward a terran player who is out of position by reducing the siege animation.
Cereal
MiCroLiFe
Profile Joined March 2012
Norway275 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-10 10:15:26
January 10 2017 10:14 GMT
#123
i cant se how protoss can have trouble.. i have 2-8 in tvp right now just make disruptor templar and collosus, its extremly hard for terran do micro everythin . while protoss can basically move forward whit A move, and storm a bit.. early stages of game, drops n stuff, isnt a problem because you have overcharge that stops it.
Im Terran. Yes i will balance whine somethimes. And thats how we terrans survive, Hoping for balance patches<3
fx9
Profile Joined November 2013
117 Posts
January 10 2017 10:28 GMT
#124
On January 10 2017 19:14 MiCroLiFe wrote:
i cant se how protoss can have trouble.. i have 2-8 in tvp right now just make disruptor templar and collosus, its extremly hard for terran do micro everythin . while protoss can basically move forward whit A move, and storm a bit.. early stages of game, drops n stuff, isnt a problem because you have overcharge that stops it.


You realize all 3techs that you mentioned (disruptor templar & collosus) are tier 3 units that requires upgrade right?

Getting all 3 requires obscene amount of gas & you just cannot afford to mass them. If you let a Protoss to get to such late game with no supply parity, then the onus is on you!
Guess what, this supposedly supreme late game combo still get beaten liberators & siege tank, by a huge margin.

I bet you expect to A-move into them with marines marauders & Medivacs every single time & come out on top every time right?
SCHWARZENEGGER
Profile Joined July 2016
206 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-10 11:24:13
January 10 2017 11:23 GMT
#125
On January 10 2017 19:28 fx9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 19:14 MiCroLiFe wrote:
i cant se how protoss can have trouble.. i have 2-8 in tvp right now just make disruptor templar and collosus, its extremly hard for terran do micro everythin . while protoss can basically move forward whit A move, and storm a bit.. early stages of game, drops n stuff, isnt a problem because you have overcharge that stops it.


You realize all 3techs that you mentioned (disruptor templar & collosus) are tier 3 units that requires upgrade right?

Getting all 3 requires obscene amount of gas & you just cannot afford to mass them. If you let a Protoss to get to such late game with no supply parity, then the onus is on you!
Guess what, this supposedly supreme late game combo still get beaten liberators & siege tank, by a huge margin.

I bet you expect to A-move into them with marines marauders & Medivacs every single time & come out on top every time right?


some fairy tales here, siege tanks AND liberators in late tvp haha, how completely stationary terran can win a single fight at least, somewhere in plat maybe.
Freeborn
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany421 Posts
January 10 2017 14:01 GMT
#126
On January 10 2017 20:23 SCHWARZENEGGER wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 19:28 fx9 wrote:
On January 10 2017 19:14 MiCroLiFe wrote:
i cant se how protoss can have trouble.. i have 2-8 in tvp right now just make disruptor templar and collosus, its extremly hard for terran do micro everythin . while protoss can basically move forward whit A move, and storm a bit.. early stages of game, drops n stuff, isnt a problem because you have overcharge that stops it.


You realize all 3techs that you mentioned (disruptor templar & collosus) are tier 3 units that requires upgrade right?

Getting all 3 requires obscene amount of gas & you just cannot afford to mass them. If you let a Protoss to get to such late game with no supply parity, then the onus is on you!
Guess what, this supposedly supreme late game combo still get beaten liberators & siege tank, by a huge margin.

I bet you expect to A-move into them with marines marauders & Medivacs every single time & come out on top every time right?


some fairy tales here, siege tanks AND liberators in late tvp haha, how completely stationary terran can win a single fight at least, somewhere in plat maybe.



You are so noob, dude. Byun vs stats today in the Olimoleague, just as an example.

And all over the tournaments pro protoss fall to mmm liberator combos, which are combined with either tanks or widow mines or both.
Byun vs stats today was mm tanks liberator with maybe 1-2 mines out of two bases. This is probably a bit harder to play than most terran players are used too (more than 3 unit types!), but half of your army is stationary so you end up just microing your stimmed bio, while the toss can barely move without being shot by tanks or libs and you attack in, you die to widow mines. If you dont have ranged colossus at that point you are already dead, if you do you probably just die slowy.

Oh btw you realize that a mother ship core with full energy has 4 overcharges max and that it cn only be in one place?
you just drop and leave and repeat, or drop in two places. It's way easier to drop than to defend, since one pylon will insta die vs 2 medivac drops and warpins will always lose vs stimmed bio thats already there shooting at them.
icesergio
Profile Joined December 2016
Italy31 Posts
January 10 2017 14:25 GMT
#127
On January 10 2017 23:01 Freeborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 20:23 SCHWARZENEGGER wrote:
On January 10 2017 19:28 fx9 wrote:
On January 10 2017 19:14 MiCroLiFe wrote:
i cant se how protoss can have trouble.. i have 2-8 in tvp right now just make disruptor templar and collosus, its extremly hard for terran do micro everythin . while protoss can basically move forward whit A move, and storm a bit.. early stages of game, drops n stuff, isnt a problem because you have overcharge that stops it.


You realize all 3techs that you mentioned (disruptor templar & collosus) are tier 3 units that requires upgrade right?

Getting all 3 requires obscene amount of gas & you just cannot afford to mass them. If you let a Protoss to get to such late game with no supply parity, then the onus is on you!
Guess what, this supposedly supreme late game combo still get beaten liberators & siege tank, by a huge margin.

I bet you expect to A-move into them with marines marauders & Medivacs every single time & come out on top every time right?


some fairy tales here, siege tanks AND liberators in late tvp haha, how completely stationary terran can win a single fight at least, somewhere in plat maybe.



You are so noob, dude. Byun vs stats today in the Olimoleague, just as an example.

And all over the tournaments pro protoss fall to mmm liberator combos, which are combined with either tanks or widow mines or both.
Byun vs stats today was mm tanks liberator with maybe 1-2 mines out of two bases. This is probably a bit harder to play than most terran players are used too (more than 3 unit types!), but half of your army is stationary so you end up just microing your stimmed bio, while the toss can barely move without being shot by tanks or libs and you attack in, you die to widow mines. If you dont have ranged colossus at that point you are already dead, if you do you probably just die slowy.

Oh btw you realize that a mother ship core with full energy has 4 overcharges max and that it cn only be in one place?
you just drop and leave and repeat, or drop in two places. It's way easier to drop than to defend, since one pylon will insta die vs 2 medivac drops and warpins will always lose vs stimmed bio thats already there shooting at them.


Nooooo you are COMPLETELY wrong about overcharge, I expect to drop, kill all the probes, maybe snipe a bit of tech and run off, that's just the way midgame aggression works!

-Every terran player 2k17
"For we now fight in the belief that our kind has not seen its end. That we protoss can stand bound by a belief in unity. And that we protoss will forge a great and mighty new civilization! Trust in each other in the fight ahead. Strike as one will! Let o
SCHWARZENEGGER
Profile Joined July 2016
206 Posts
January 10 2017 14:39 GMT
#128
On January 10 2017 23:01 Freeborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 20:23 SCHWARZENEGGER wrote:
On January 10 2017 19:28 fx9 wrote:
On January 10 2017 19:14 MiCroLiFe wrote:
i cant se how protoss can have trouble.. i have 2-8 in tvp right now just make disruptor templar and collosus, its extremly hard for terran do micro everythin . while protoss can basically move forward whit A move, and storm a bit.. early stages of game, drops n stuff, isnt a problem because you have overcharge that stops it.


You realize all 3techs that you mentioned (disruptor templar & collosus) are tier 3 units that requires upgrade right?

Getting all 3 requires obscene amount of gas & you just cannot afford to mass them. If you let a Protoss to get to such late game with no supply parity, then the onus is on you!
Guess what, this supposedly supreme late game combo still get beaten liberators & siege tank, by a huge margin.

I bet you expect to A-move into them with marines marauders & Medivacs every single time & come out on top every time right?


some fairy tales here, siege tanks AND liberators in late tvp haha, how completely stationary terran can win a single fight at least, somewhere in plat maybe.



You are so noob, dude. Byun vs stats today in the Olimoleague, just as an example.

And all over the tournaments pro protoss fall to mmm liberator combos, which are combined with either tanks or widow mines or both.
Byun vs stats today was mm tanks liberator with maybe 1-2 mines out of two bases. This is probably a bit harder to play than most terran players are used too (more than 3 unit types!), but half of your army is stationary so you end up just microing your stimmed bio, while the toss can barely move without being shot by tanks or libs and you attack in, you die to widow mines. If you dont have ranged colossus at that point you are already dead, if you do you probably just die slowy.

Oh btw you realize that a mother ship core with full energy has 4 overcharges max and that it cn only be in one place?
you just drop and leave and repeat, or drop in two places. It's way easier to drop than to defend, since one pylon will insta die vs 2 medivac drops and warpins will always lose vs stimmed bio thats already there shooting at them.


I said late game but you tried lol
Freeborn
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany421 Posts
January 10 2017 15:01 GMT
#129
On January 10 2017 23:39 SCHWARZENEGGER wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 23:01 Freeborn wrote:
On January 10 2017 20:23 SCHWARZENEGGER wrote:
On January 10 2017 19:28 fx9 wrote:
On January 10 2017 19:14 MiCroLiFe wrote:
i cant se how protoss can have trouble.. i have 2-8 in tvp right now just make disruptor templar and collosus, its extremly hard for terran do micro everythin . while protoss can basically move forward whit A move, and storm a bit.. early stages of game, drops n stuff, isnt a problem because you have overcharge that stops it.


You realize all 3techs that you mentioned (disruptor templar & collosus) are tier 3 units that requires upgrade right?

Getting all 3 requires obscene amount of gas & you just cannot afford to mass them. If you let a Protoss to get to such late game with no supply parity, then the onus is on you!
Guess what, this supposedly supreme late game combo still get beaten liberators & siege tank, by a huge margin.

I bet you expect to A-move into them with marines marauders & Medivacs every single time & come out on top every time right?


some fairy tales here, siege tanks AND liberators in late tvp haha, how completely stationary terran can win a single fight at least, somewhere in plat maybe.



You are so noob, dude. Byun vs stats today in the Olimoleague, just as an example.

And all over the tournaments pro protoss fall to mmm liberator combos, which are combined with either tanks or widow mines or both.
Byun vs stats today was mm tanks liberator with maybe 1-2 mines out of two bases. This is probably a bit harder to play than most terran players are used too (more than 3 unit types!), but half of your army is stationary so you end up just microing your stimmed bio, while the toss can barely move without being shot by tanks or libs and you attack in, you die to widow mines. If you dont have ranged colossus at that point you are already dead, if you do you probably just die slowy.

Oh btw you realize that a mother ship core with full energy has 4 overcharges max and that it cn only be in one place?
you just drop and leave and repeat, or drop in two places. It's way easier to drop than to defend, since one pylon will insta die vs 2 medivac drops and warpins will always lose vs stimmed bio thats already there shooting at them.


I said late game but you tried lol


Lol, you are such a troll, the terran has that off two base and toss can barely manage colossi in time. If you let toss get to super late game with tempest or carriers than you probably just played bad. but even then you just add in some vikings and maybe ghosts and you are good.

Sorry that you cant beat everything with mmm alone
Maybe we need some more balance patches for terran?

Sad little terran troll...


User was warned for this post
SCHWARZENEGGER
Profile Joined July 2016
206 Posts
January 10 2017 15:15 GMT
#130
On January 11 2017 00:01 Freeborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 23:39 SCHWARZENEGGER wrote:
On January 10 2017 23:01 Freeborn wrote:
On January 10 2017 20:23 SCHWARZENEGGER wrote:
On January 10 2017 19:28 fx9 wrote:
On January 10 2017 19:14 MiCroLiFe wrote:
i cant se how protoss can have trouble.. i have 2-8 in tvp right now just make disruptor templar and collosus, its extremly hard for terran do micro everythin . while protoss can basically move forward whit A move, and storm a bit.. early stages of game, drops n stuff, isnt a problem because you have overcharge that stops it.


You realize all 3techs that you mentioned (disruptor templar & collosus) are tier 3 units that requires upgrade right?

Getting all 3 requires obscene amount of gas & you just cannot afford to mass them. If you let a Protoss to get to such late game with no supply parity, then the onus is on you!
Guess what, this supposedly supreme late game combo still get beaten liberators & siege tank, by a huge margin.

I bet you expect to A-move into them with marines marauders & Medivacs every single time & come out on top every time right?


some fairy tales here, siege tanks AND liberators in late tvp haha, how completely stationary terran can win a single fight at least, somewhere in plat maybe.



You are so noob, dude. Byun vs stats today in the Olimoleague, just as an example.

And all over the tournaments pro protoss fall to mmm liberator combos, which are combined with either tanks or widow mines or both.
Byun vs stats today was mm tanks liberator with maybe 1-2 mines out of two bases. This is probably a bit harder to play than most terran players are used too (more than 3 unit types!), but half of your army is stationary so you end up just microing your stimmed bio, while the toss can barely move without being shot by tanks or libs and you attack in, you die to widow mines. If you dont have ranged colossus at that point you are already dead, if you do you probably just die slowy.

Oh btw you realize that a mother ship core with full energy has 4 overcharges max and that it cn only be in one place?
you just drop and leave and repeat, or drop in two places. It's way easier to drop than to defend, since one pylon will insta die vs 2 medivac drops and warpins will always lose vs stimmed bio thats already there shooting at them.


I said late game but you tried lol


Lol, you are such a troll, the terran has that off two base and toss can barely manage colossi in time. If you let toss get to super late game with tempest or carriers than you probably just played bad. but even then you just add in some vikings and maybe ghosts and you are good.

Sorry that you cant beat everything with mmm alone
Maybe we need some more balance patches for terran?

Sad little terran troll...


I just answered to other guy who said that libs and tanks beat colossi templar disruptor in the late game. jesus you're an idiot xD
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5219 Posts
January 10 2017 15:54 GMT
#131
On January 10 2017 18:54 InfCereal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 02:15 junkdrop wrote:
and most of all... u should keep the same tank's damage as always and maybe accelerate a bit the siege animation so that it could shoot earlier.


The entire point of the siege tank is the be already sieged. Why would you reward a terran player who is out of position by reducing the siege animation.


Exactly.

Reducing the Siege animation is a bad idea because it removes what makes the tank unique. Unfortunately, the incredible burst damage it does is not unique in SC2.
Freeborn
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany421 Posts
January 10 2017 16:36 GMT
#132
On January 11 2017 00:15 SCHWARZENEGGER wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2017 00:01 Freeborn wrote:
On January 10 2017 23:39 SCHWARZENEGGER wrote:
On January 10 2017 23:01 Freeborn wrote:
On January 10 2017 20:23 SCHWARZENEGGER wrote:
On January 10 2017 19:28 fx9 wrote:
On January 10 2017 19:14 MiCroLiFe wrote:
i cant se how protoss can have trouble.. i have 2-8 in tvp right now just make disruptor templar and collosus, its extremly hard for terran do micro everythin . while protoss can basically move forward whit A move, and storm a bit.. early stages of game, drops n stuff, isnt a problem because you have overcharge that stops it.


You realize all 3techs that you mentioned (disruptor templar & collosus) are tier 3 units that requires upgrade right?

Getting all 3 requires obscene amount of gas & you just cannot afford to mass them. If you let a Protoss to get to such late game with no supply parity, then the onus is on you!
Guess what, this supposedly supreme late game combo still get beaten liberators & siege tank, by a huge margin.

I bet you expect to A-move into them with marines marauders & Medivacs every single time & come out on top every time right?


some fairy tales here, siege tanks AND liberators in late tvp haha, how completely stationary terran can win a single fight at least, somewhere in plat maybe.



You are so noob, dude. Byun vs stats today in the Olimoleague, just as an example.

And all over the tournaments pro protoss fall to mmm liberator combos, which are combined with either tanks or widow mines or both.
Byun vs stats today was mm tanks liberator with maybe 1-2 mines out of two bases. This is probably a bit harder to play than most terran players are used too (more than 3 unit types!), but half of your army is stationary so you end up just microing your stimmed bio, while the toss can barely move without being shot by tanks or libs and you attack in, you die to widow mines. If you dont have ranged colossus at that point you are already dead, if you do you probably just die slowy.

Oh btw you realize that a mother ship core with full energy has 4 overcharges max and that it cn only be in one place?
you just drop and leave and repeat, or drop in two places. It's way easier to drop than to defend, since one pylon will insta die vs 2 medivac drops and warpins will always lose vs stimmed bio thats already there shooting at them.


I said late game but you tried lol


Lol, you are such a troll, the terran has that off two base and toss can barely manage colossi in time. If you let toss get to super late game with tempest or carriers than you probably just played bad. but even then you just add in some vikings and maybe ghosts and you are good.

Sorry that you cant beat everything with mmm alone
Maybe we need some more balance patches for terran?

Sad little terran troll...


I just answered to other guy who said that libs and tanks beat colossi templar disruptor in the late game. jesus you're an idiot xD



You are such a troll, lol.
You don't even try to use arguments or valid points. Don't they ban people like youa round here..?
SCHWARZENEGGER
Profile Joined July 2016
206 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-10 16:52:37
January 10 2017 16:51 GMT
#133
On January 11 2017 01:36 Freeborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2017 00:15 SCHWARZENEGGER wrote:
On January 11 2017 00:01 Freeborn wrote:
On January 10 2017 23:39 SCHWARZENEGGER wrote:
On January 10 2017 23:01 Freeborn wrote:
On January 10 2017 20:23 SCHWARZENEGGER wrote:
On January 10 2017 19:28 fx9 wrote:
On January 10 2017 19:14 MiCroLiFe wrote:
i cant se how protoss can have trouble.. i have 2-8 in tvp right now just make disruptor templar and collosus, its extremly hard for terran do micro everythin . while protoss can basically move forward whit A move, and storm a bit.. early stages of game, drops n stuff, isnt a problem because you have overcharge that stops it.


You realize all 3techs that you mentioned (disruptor templar & collosus) are tier 3 units that requires upgrade right?

Getting all 3 requires obscene amount of gas & you just cannot afford to mass them. If you let a Protoss to get to such late game with no supply parity, then the onus is on you!
Guess what, this supposedly supreme late game combo still get beaten liberators & siege tank, by a huge margin.

I bet you expect to A-move into them with marines marauders & Medivacs every single time & come out on top every time right?


some fairy tales here, siege tanks AND liberators in late tvp haha, how completely stationary terran can win a single fight at least, somewhere in plat maybe.




You are so noob, dude. Byun vs stats today in the Olimoleague, just as an example.

And all over the tournaments pro protoss fall to mmm liberator combos, which are combined with either tanks or widow mines or both.
Byun vs stats today was mm tanks liberator with maybe 1-2 mines out of two bases. This is probably a bit harder to play than most terran players are used too (more than 3 unit types!), but half of your army is stationary so you end up just microing your stimmed bio, while the toss can barely move without being shot by tanks or libs and you attack in, you die to widow mines. If you dont have ranged colossus at that point you are already dead, if you do you probably just die slowy.

Oh btw you realize that a mother ship core with full energy has 4 overcharges max and that it cn only be in one place?
you just drop and leave and repeat, or drop in two places. It's way easier to drop than to defend, since one pylon will insta die vs 2 medivac drops and warpins will always lose vs stimmed bio thats already there shooting at them.


Lol, you are such a troll, the terran has that off two base and toss can barely manage colossi in time. If you let toss get to super late game with tempest or carriers than you probably just played bad. but even then you just add in some vikings and maybe ghosts and you are good.

Sorry that you cant beat everything with mmm alone
Maybe we need some more balance patches for terran?

Sad little terran troll...


I just answered to other guy who said that libs and tanks beat colossi templar disruptor in the late game. jesus you're an idiot xD


You are such a troll, lol.
You don't even try to use arguments or valid points. Don't they ban people like youa round here..?


thanks for further proving that you're pathetic whiner. isn't you Freeborn from eu serv with 5k games and still only diamond? looking for some self-affirmation here and choose me like your victim haha.


User was temp banned for this post.
MiCroLiFe
Profile Joined March 2012
Norway275 Posts
January 10 2017 17:03 GMT
#134
On January 10 2017 19:28 fx9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 19:14 MiCroLiFe wrote:
i cant se how protoss can have trouble.. i have 2-8 in tvp right now just make disruptor templar and collosus, its extremly hard for terran do micro everythin . while protoss can basically move forward whit A move, and storm a bit.. early stages of game, drops n stuff, isnt a problem because you have overcharge that stops it.


You realize all 3techs that you mentioned (disruptor templar & collosus) are tier 3 units that requires upgrade right?

Getting all 3 requires obscene amount of gas & you just cannot afford to mass them. If you let a Protoss to get to such late game with no supply parity, then the onus is on you!
Guess what, this supposedly supreme late game combo still get beaten liberators & siege tank, by a huge margin.

I bet you expect to A-move into them with marines marauders & Medivacs every single time & come out on top every time right?

Im a terran, i never a moves, thats death in every matchup. even if im maxed, 3-3, dodge all disrutpor shots, and storms, stil the toss army wins,.

You then realize that protoss can make terran not leave base whit warp prism while take third every game? Drops are kinda waste because whn you get so much medivacs n marines, the toss have observers which will spot the drop ( if the protoss are good) ghost is useless since u cant snipe templars anymore.
guess how much gas it cost to make vikings + lib + medivacs? i cant afford all those + everything else i need. and my macro is under 300 unspent every game
Im Terran. Yes i will balance whine somethimes. And thats how we terrans survive, Hoping for balance patches<3
Freeborn
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany421 Posts
January 10 2017 17:09 GMT
#135
On January 11 2017 01:51 SCHWARZENEGGER wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2017 01:36 Freeborn wrote:
On January 11 2017 00:15 SCHWARZENEGGER wrote:
On January 11 2017 00:01 Freeborn wrote:
On January 10 2017 23:39 SCHWARZENEGGER wrote:
On January 10 2017 23:01 Freeborn wrote:
On January 10 2017 20:23 SCHWARZENEGGER wrote:
On January 10 2017 19:28 fx9 wrote:
On January 10 2017 19:14 MiCroLiFe wrote:
i cant se how protoss can have trouble.. i have 2-8 in tvp right now just make disruptor templar and collosus, its extremly hard for terran do micro everythin . while protoss can basically move forward whit A move, and storm a bit.. early stages of game, drops n stuff, isnt a problem because you have overcharge that stops it.


You realize all 3techs that you mentioned (disruptor templar & collosus) are tier 3 units that requires upgrade right?

Getting all 3 requires obscene amount of gas & you just cannot afford to mass them. If you let a Protoss to get to such late game with no supply parity, then the onus is on you!
Guess what, this supposedly supreme late game combo still get beaten liberators & siege tank, by a huge margin.

I bet you expect to A-move into them with marines marauders & Medivacs every single time & come out on top every time right?


some fairy tales here, siege tanks AND liberators in late tvp haha, how completely stationary terran can win a single fight at least, somewhere in plat maybe.




You are so noob, dude. Byun vs stats today in the Olimoleague, just as an example.

And all over the tournaments pro protoss fall to mmm liberator combos, which are combined with either tanks or widow mines or both.
Byun vs stats today was mm tanks liberator with maybe 1-2 mines out of two bases. This is probably a bit harder to play than most terran players are used too (more than 3 unit types!), but half of your army is stationary so you end up just microing your stimmed bio, while the toss can barely move without being shot by tanks or libs and you attack in, you die to widow mines. If you dont have ranged colossus at that point you are already dead, if you do you probably just die slowy.

Oh btw you realize that a mother ship core with full energy has 4 overcharges max and that it cn only be in one place?
you just drop and leave and repeat, or drop in two places. It's way easier to drop than to defend, since one pylon will insta die vs 2 medivac drops and warpins will always lose vs stimmed bio thats already there shooting at them.


Lol, you are such a troll, the terran has that off two base and toss can barely manage colossi in time. If you let toss get to super late game with tempest or carriers than you probably just played bad. but even then you just add in some vikings and maybe ghosts and you are good.

Sorry that you cant beat everything with mmm alone
Maybe we need some more balance patches for terran?

Sad little terran troll...


I just answered to other guy who said that libs and tanks beat colossi templar disruptor in the late game. jesus you're an idiot xD


You are such a troll, lol.
You don't even try to use arguments or valid points. Don't they ban people like youa round here..?


thanks for further proving that you're pathetic whiner. isn't you Freeborn from eu serv with 5k games and still only diamond? looking for some self-affirmation here and choose me like your victim haha.


Uh.. and where are your arguments again..? Resorting to personal attacks..?

You just prove again how much of a sad and mean troll you are.

What's your account btw? Show me your gm league then?

It doesn't really matter but argueing without arguments and resorting to insults and personal attacks makes you seem like you have no clue and are just looking for attention or trying to justify yourself for playing terran or something weird like that.

I'm trying to argue to hopefully come to some kind of idea of what we can do to improve protoss, but you are just blowing hot air and insults.

No Point in talking to you any longer.
Jason1
Profile Joined May 2015
9 Posts
January 10 2017 18:06 GMT
#136
reason i quit sc2. i will do more research and let you know more about it later.
Sound1
Profile Joined August 2016
France93 Posts
January 10 2017 18:52 GMT
#137
I think Blizz has to solve an unsolved problem with Terran race.
Terran is a race relying a lot on mechanics, so better terran player you are better mechanics you have.
No data here, but I m pretty sure in the lowest league Terran is the weakest race, while the very best Terran players in the world seem to be unbeatable ATM.

As mentionned often in this topic, Terran army is just crushed when you "a move" it on a decent Toss or Zerg army. You have to multistask like jesus as siege/unsiege tanks and liberators, burrow/unborrow mines, manage drops in opponent bases or libs harass ALL during the fight against opponent s army in the middle of the map.

When you watch Inno stream, it is just indecent as he rolls upon opponent face, as guys like Soo Classic or others top korean ladder players look like Diams scrub next to him because he is mechanics monster.
I think Inno Byun Maru are able to use Terran race to make it become the best race. For the others Terran players... that is harder.
Startale Sound Fan boy Forever !
MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-10 19:47:59
January 10 2017 19:46 GMT
#138
I suggest the following units should be toned down based on my ladder experience and from watching high level streamers.

Reapers

3-rax reaper is much to strong. Increase the cool down on the reaper grenades in order to adjust this.

Swarm Hosts

Prevents mech from being used at all in TvZ. They are basically the reason that Korean pro gamers stopped using mech in TvZ. Swarm Hoss need to cost more resources.

Ravens
Ravens are ok in low numbers but much to strong when massed. Increase supply from 2 to 4. No one wants to play against mass Ravens again.

Liberators
Are too strong vs ground. Decrease damage so that they 2-shot Hydras and 3-shot stalkers.

Carriers

Are too strong vs all races. Either decrease DPS or revert the interceptor cost to 25.

Battlecruicers
The teleport ability is to abusive. Increase the cool down so that you have to be more restrictive with when to use teleport.
J. Corsair
Profile Joined June 2014
United States470 Posts
January 10 2017 20:07 GMT
#139
I can't believe the whining. For once Terran is in a good place against Protoss and Protoss players just resort to whining. Everything was fine when you could adept shade into all 3 terran bases and kill 30 scvs with 6-8 adepts, right? Forcing the terran player to multi-task like bajeezus while you sit back and macro some more.

Now that Protoss is forced to multi-task as well it's suddenly a huge issue. Zerg players didn't moan nearly as much when they were considered underpowered towards the beginning of LOTV.

People mentioning a Byun vs Stats match as evidence Terran is too strong? Byun is literally the BEST Terran player in the world, of course he's going to make the race look good. The fact is, there is only a handful of Terran players capable of doing what these guys do with Terran, the rest struggle. Both Zerg and Protoss, as long as they have free supply, larvae and resources can insta-max. Don't forget that nice tidbit as well,
“...it is human nature, I suppose, to be futile and ridiculous.” - Scaramouche
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
January 10 2017 20:22 GMT
#140
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/sc2/topic/20752570583

they are consdering less idiotic maps now

Cactus Valley tho... RNG in ZvT and ZvP nightmare
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 16 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
LiuLi Cup
11:00
Group B
Clem vs Rogue
SHIN vs Cyan
RotterdaM974
TKL 298
IndyStarCraft 225
BRAT_OK 151
Rex150
trigger120
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 974
TKL 298
IndyStarCraft 225
Rex 157
BRAT_OK 151
trigger 120
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 37180
Sea 11227
Horang2 4775
Rain 1446
Jaedong 656
actioN 418
hero 416
Mini 375
Soma 241
PianO 229
[ Show more ]
Mong 193
Last 167
Snow 162
Barracks 152
Rush 143
ZerO 109
Zeus 108
ToSsGirL 73
Leta 67
Sharp 67
Sea.KH 51
Shine 24
soO 23
Icarus 21
Hm[arnc] 20
Noble 19
Movie 17
sorry 17
HiyA 16
910 13
Sacsri 10
zelot 10
Terrorterran 6
ajuk12(nOOB) 6
Dota 2
XcaliburYe115
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss1216
zeus1130
x6flipin568
allub303
edward73
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King136
Other Games
singsing1617
Liquid`RaSZi1416
B2W.Neo795
crisheroes255
Fuzer 175
mouzStarbuck162
Sick33
KnowMe28
ZerO(Twitch)18
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH195
• StrangeGG 50
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV155
• lizZardDota227
League of Legends
• Jankos3540
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
11h 20m
The PondCast
21h 20m
KCM Race Survival
21h 20m
LiuLi Cup
22h 20m
Scarlett vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs herO
Replay Cast
1d 11h
Online Event
1d 21h
LiuLi Cup
1d 22h
Serral vs Zoun
Cure vs Classic
Big Brain Bouts
2 days
Serral vs TBD
RSL Revival
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
[ Show More ]
LiuLi Cup
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
5 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-10
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.