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Diaresta
Profile Joined February 2012
United States597 Posts
January 02 2017 08:49 GMT
#81
We all saw this coming, but it's still unfortunate to see EG finally leave Starcraft.

I'm really surprised about JWong leaving
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SlammerSC2
Profile Joined April 2013
77 Posts
January 02 2017 09:04 GMT
#82
I hope this might lead to the making of a new League of Legends roster. I feel EG is a historic e-sports organisation from back in cs 1.6 and i hope to see them compete with teams like TSM and Cloud9 in NA.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-02 09:16:40
January 02 2017 09:16 GMT
#83
Justin Wong is such a legend. This EG management looks truly awful.
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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12248 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-02 09:17:16
January 02 2017 09:17 GMT
#84
On January 02 2017 18:16 Salteador Neo wrote:
Justin Wong is such a legend. This EG management looks truly awful.


JWong left of his own accord though. He's going to build his own personal brand.

e: Ditto Momochi/Chocoblanka.
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Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
January 02 2017 09:18 GMT
#85
On January 02 2017 18:17 Excalibur_Z wrote:
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On January 02 2017 18:16 Salteador Neo wrote:
Justin Wong is such a legend. This EG management looks truly awful.


JWong left of his own accord though. He's going to build his own personal brand.

e: Ditto Momochi/Chocoblanka.


Ah, good to know. He still deserves some big video tribute at least, his accomplishments with EG have been spectacular.
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Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
January 02 2017 09:27 GMT
#86
I don't understand what all the fuss is about. EG has always treated the players with grate care, provided they made them a lot of money. No more money, no more respect and care. They are one of the most soulless orgs i've ever seen.
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broodbucket
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia963 Posts
January 02 2017 10:06 GMT
#87
People should probably expect a more meaningful sendoff for the departing players from EG, but not really from ppd; he likely didn't even know they existed until he got into management after TI6. Before then he only had to care about Dota2 players, it's only recently he's been learning more about other parts of the org, he wouldn't have much to say about iNcontroL and Huk's legacies.

Not that surprising given EG's limited involvement in SC2 and a big management restructure. On the upside, PPMD!
hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland964 Posts
January 02 2017 10:42 GMT
#88
Incontrol posted a video with some tidbits about the early days of SC2 with EG. More to follow.

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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
January 02 2017 10:55 GMT
#89
Imagine the day when Totti finally retires from football and leaves Roma and some kid just says "cheers Francesco byeee" on a facetime recording as a goodbye.
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mammuluk
Profile Joined February 2016
Italy94 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-02 11:21:30
January 02 2017 11:20 GMT
#90
On January 02 2017 06:30 EXRNaRa wrote:
Have to be honest about this, i have no respect for all those organisations/players/teams leaving the fans so silently who supported them over all those years without any information. EG is not there anymore since months if not years and the announcment still comes NOW.
Sorry but thats hilarious. Same thing for some players who just left.
I can´t blame anyone for the decision to leave the game or switch games or anything like that, what i just dislike is doing so without letting anyone know. The "just don´t talk about it" attitude is big in SC2.


Best comment.


This stuff is totally disrespectful to the fans. Starcraft has an important History. Nobody should spit on it...

As an Italian, I have to say that also the comment about Totti is remarkable
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12969 Posts
January 02 2017 11:56 GMT
#91
PPMD from the 5 Gods of Smash will start playing again? cool, more gods to smash for Leffen
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Lightrush
Profile Joined July 2015
Bulgaria164 Posts
January 02 2017 12:38 GMT
#92
Not much of a surprise after Incontrol announced his departure some weeks ago. Tbh I wasn't even sure who was on that roster anymore.
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18864 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-02 13:11:41
January 02 2017 12:46 GMT
#93
While I think many people saw this coming and that there was only so much PPD could do, this rather unceremonial ending to one of the heavy hitter teams of Sc2 makes him look ignorant as to a huge segment of the esports consuming public.
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Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-02 12:57:11
January 02 2017 12:49 GMT
#94
On January 02 2017 19:55 Skynx wrote:
Imagine the day when Totti finally retires from football and leaves Roma and some kid just says "cheers Francesco byeee" on a facetime recording as a goodbye.
It was not far off that Totti was sent to the gates by Roma management after 30 years in disgraceful manner. Until he showed he is still their savior. When they make a speech to the public thanking Totti, it is as much for PR reasons in a club that will continue to exist, unlike the SC2 division. In essence there is no PR to please.

I am sure PPD thanks IncontroL for his contributions for the growth of the brand internally. I think unlike Totti, IncontroL wanted to do his own thing, thus chose to leave by own accord.

At the end of the day, it does feel like trying to compare apples and oranges.
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Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-02 13:04:49
January 02 2017 13:02 GMT
#95
That indeed was a pathetic announcement from an organisation of their caliber, especially considering the players and history they're parting with.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
January 02 2017 13:42 GMT
#96
TiL EG apparently still played sc2
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Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9443 Posts
January 02 2017 13:47 GMT
#97
He is a good promoter. I remember when Toronto had it's first SC2 tournament, Geoff went on an early morning news program to explain esports and SC2. He did a great job of explaining esports while deflecting any stereotypes of 'basement dwelling gamer that still lives with his parents'.


Always surprised Incontrol never moved on to a more general esports representative for w/e organization. He has a lot more potential to be more than just an SC2 personality.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-02 14:23:55
January 02 2017 14:20 GMT
#98
On January 02 2017 16:20 lestye wrote:
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On January 02 2017 14:31 Eternal Dalek wrote:
On January 02 2017 14:04 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 02 2017 14:01 nurle wrote:
SC2 has got to go down as on one of the biggest disappointments in history of gaming.. Man what happened


Dude gaming has things like Spore and No Man's Sky. Even if you think SC2 is disappointing it's not even in the same ballpark as those.

I agree with you, but seeing Starcraft 2 die out like this still hurts.

I honestly believe that all this happened because Blizzard tried way too hard to make it into an esport. The thing about the esports that dominate the world today is that none of them started out as esports or were even intended to become esports. They simply evolved into esports naturally:

1. DotA - Started out as a very simple Warcraft 3 mod where you controlled just one unit instead of one army. It eventually evolved over the years into the most lucrative esport in the world.
2. LoL - Basically a DotA clone that became successful in its own right. Like DotA, it was not forced into becoming an esport and became one naturally.
3. Counterstrike - Started out as a very simple Half-Life 1 mod. Easy to learn, hard to master. Very accessible but also has a lot of depth.
4. Hearthstone - It's basically a very accessible version of Magic: the Gathering. It was designed to be a casual game that became an esport naturally.

It feels like Blizzard misunderstood what made esports great. They seemed to have assumed that people watch esports to watch people play games much better than they can. While this is true, they failed to realize that people watch games that they themselves like to play, and we here on TL.net are a very small minority compared to the entire Starcraft 2 player base. Outside of TL.net and isolated pockets like /r/starcraft/ and Twitch, almost no one has a positive opinion of Starcraft 2's multiplayer.

Can the game recover? It can, but Blizzard would have to completely change the way they develop it. They have to get off their high horse and start making the game fun to play again instead of simply being "fun to watch."


Some might argue they didn't ry hard enough initially.

Regardless, RTS as an esport is an anomaly in the West. It was a good run but it was never to last once Counterstrike got out if its rut from 09-12

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On January 02 2017 14:01 nurle wrote:
SC2 has got to go down as on one of the biggest disappointments in history of gaming.. Man what happened

It's not like it fell on its face. It launched, it did peaked, it declined. Same thing will happen to any and every esport. It started a crazy new wave of esports in the West. It exiting in the least popular genre doesn't help.


100% agree with this post. Yes the game is declining, but for fuck sake, we all gave years to this game because it is in fact amazing. It wouldn't have had a year like 2011 if it wasn't, or a 7+ years life span as a top competitive game.

I'm as frustrated as anyone else is to see SC2 past its prime, but i'm even more angry and frustrated to see its own player base turning against it.

On January 02 2017 20:20 mammuluk wrote:
As an Italian, I have to say that also the comment about Totti is remarkable


Yeah, although the Inter fan in me wishes it was about Javier Zanetti instead
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-02 14:48:51
January 02 2017 14:44 GMT
#99
On January 02 2017 19:42 hexhaven wrote:
Incontrol posted a video with some tidbits about the early days of SC2 with EG. More to follow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f3wohCKlho


Very good video. Highly recommend to watch it if you want to know about things around that time. Salary numbers, 'behind the scene' stuff etc.
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beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 02 2017 14:53 GMT
#100
It's just lame how they discard long term members. They deserve better. Bad brand.
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