I feel like a lot of people here are unware of how much EG has changed.
The company basically only has the name as far as how similar it is from the sc2 days. Garfield leaving changed it forever, it's PDD's organisation no, and while I respect the guy, he's clearly not the same business man.

stuchiu

Fiddler's Green42661 Posts

January 01 2017 23:43 GMT

#26

EG changed long before PPD took over.

ymir233

United States8275 Posts

January 01 2017 23:45 GMT

#27

SC2 gone, CoD in, Momochoco + JWong + Rog out, and it's a new generation.

I really like and hate at the same time how PPD does things, but he's the captain for real now (especially after Alex Garfield kinda went away). Hope he focuses the company to a better spot once things settle down.

Noocta

France12578 Posts

January 01 2017 23:45 GMT

#28

On January 02 2017 08:43 stuchiu wrote:
EG changed long before PPD took over.

Sure, probably started when people like Scoot left, but right now it's even more apparent than before

EG is not this enormous thing anymore, it's a Brand name who got bought by a old player.

xTJx

Brazil419 Posts

January 01 2017 23:52 GMT

#29

I miss the good old EG days.

Tachion

Canada8573 Posts

January 01 2017 23:52 GMT

#30

On January 02 2017 08:43 stuchiu wrote:
EG changed long before PPD took over.

In what way? After they were acquired by twitch in 2014 they seemed to slow their pace on the goofy player videos, but besides that it still seemed like EG to me.

Clbull

United Kingdom1439 Posts

January 01 2017 23:56 GMT

#31

I'm going to play devil's advocate here and defend EG's apathy towards ditching SC2.

A lot of people blame League of Legends for cannibalising SC2's player base, but I really don't think that's the case. RTS and MOBA are two entirely different genres that don't necessarily share viewerships or player bases. Instead, I see mismanagement on Blizzard's end as a big reason why the game fell from grace.

Just look at WCS. It was haphazardly implemented by Bllizzard with very little input from or even warning towards TOs and players back in early 2013; and in a four year period we saw MLG, ESL, OGN and GOMTV ditch the scene, NASL die to bankruptcy, and plenty of professional gamers and teams ditch the game in droves. Some did quit because the game was starting to suck, sure, but some of these players and teams moved on because of changes being made to the system which screwed their particular region. Just look at Axiom as an example.

Then there's the fact that SC2 simply isn't the same game that it was six years ago. WoL back in 2011 was the quintessential RTS game with a few bad units that Blizzard could have retrospectively buffed, like the Siege Tank. You could generally play however the hell you want, and there were a plethora of diverse builds and playstyles.

LotV on the other hand is what happens when Blizzard try to change things and cock everything up. The map design is horrible, certain units like the Adept completely invalidate other units of the same tier, you mine out too quickly, worker harassment and all-ins are far too difficult and coin-flippy to defend, and overall create the most frustrating gaming experience known to man.

EG's departure from SC2 really should be a wake-up call to Blizzard. Heads need to roll in the SC2 development team and WCS 2017 needs to be stalled if they don't want the game to outright die.

stuchiu

Fiddler's Green42661 Posts

January 01 2017 23:57 GMT

#32

On January 02 2017 08:52 Tachion wrote:

Show nested quote +

In what way? After they were acquired by twitch in 2014 they seemed to slow their pace on the goofy player videos, but besides that it still seemed like EG to me.

They just stopped doing things. They were always focused on the bottom line to an extent, but they still had pretty good players that were either top tier or potential pickups.

At some point, they just stopped making moves besides Dota2.

RoomOfMush

1296 Posts

January 02 2017 00:10 GMT

#33

On January 02 2017 08:56 Clbull wrote:
EG's departure from SC2 really should be a wake-up call to Blizzard. Heads need to roll in the SC2 development team and WCS 2017 needs to be stalled if they don't want the game to outright die.

There is no wake-up call. Its too late for that. If blizzard does a big 180° now it will only make things worse instead of improving them. They will alienate the players they still have who are enjoying LotV as it is.

Shellshock

United States97276 Posts

January 02 2017 00:23 GMT

#34

Didn't know they were still in sc2 for the last year or so tbh

chipmonklord17

United States11944 Posts

January 02 2017 00:26 GMT

#35

Like other's have said Momochi and JWong out of EG is far more surprising and noteworthy than them leaving SC2. No one should be surprised by the organization pulling of a game they haven't picked anyone new up for since Jaedong years ago. Sure, maybe they could grab some teamless foreigner but it just doesn't make sense to. Add to that that their sponsors don't really have a large involvement with Korea, and WCS the way it is, it doesn't make sense to grab a Korean player that isn't going to be playing in WCS.

EG's been gone a while, this is just making it official

EDIT: Apparently Oz/Xeno/Alive were 2013 pick ups. So THEY'RE the last pick ups. In 2013

showstealer1829

Australia3123 Posts

January 02 2017 00:43 GMT

#36

On January 02 2017 09:23 Shellshock wrote:
Didn't know they were still in sc2 for the last year or so tbh

Same. I just sort of assumed they disbanded once Jaedong left.

ragnasaur

United States804 Posts

January 02 2017 00:49 GMT

#37

Evil Nincompoops!
I'll never forget meeting EG in Arizona (losing to them) and when idra walked in on me peeing

Superiorwolf

United States5509 Posts

January 02 2017 00:59 GMT

#38

JWong gone too?? Was not expecting that D: And yeah, wish that EG would have at least a little more effort into making a proper send-off video, especially for members who have been part of the team for so many years.

mnck

Denmark1518 Posts

January 02 2017 01:20 GMT

#39

Can anyone link me to any thorough explainations of what the fuck happened at EG? Did Twitch buy the brand and ruin it and a bunch of people left out of frustration? How the hell did PPD of all people end up as CEO? I honestly couldn't even believe the news when I read PPD was retiring. The most consistent player of all time in Dota, well above both Puppey and Xiao8.

Has EG been dumped by Twitch (after acquring all the people at the company) and PPD was given the offer to buy it, and being that he seems to have aspirations of having his own esports company, took the opportunity? Also this video seems very off for some reason. Certainly feels like a major transition for the company, and deserves a little more than just some incredibly annoying and scripted quick presentation.