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IEM Gyeonggi Day 2 - Dark, INnoVation, Stats and ByuL ride…

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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
December 15 2016 07:01 GMT
#1
As day 2 of IEM Gyeonggi dawned, 8 players returned to do battle in search of the first title of WCS 2017.

First to take the stage were (T)Maru and (P)Stats. Coming into the match, Maru’s woes against Protoss were well documented, with his struggles against Has in the qualifiers still fresh in the memory, while Stats had also suffered in the matchup with recent losses to INnoVation (yesterday in the Ro.16), and TY (at GSL Cataclysm). The early game proved to be the defining aspect of the series. Maru won the one game that reached the truly latter stages on Echo, but Stats managed to convert early leads into set victories elsewhere, with simple stalker pressure on Overgrowth allowing him to transition to an overwhelming colossus force, while oracles and void ray busts did critical damage on Vaani and Habitation Station.

The second semifinal was a clear underdog story. (T)INnoVation was only a day removed from authoritatively defeating a superior Protoss in Stats, whereas (P)Trust had squeaked out of this group in second place. All signs pointed to a lopsided defeat, but the upstart Protoss sought to defy popular opinion. He failed—INnoVation put on a TvP masterclass. His mastery of the matchup was apparent as he repelled stargate and dark templar play with relative ease as he displayed a wide variety of tactics en route to victory. Widow mines, liberators, cyclones and bio featured prominently as INnoVation harassed efficiently, hit crisp timings and cheesed effectively on his way to a 3-0 victory and an appearance in the next round.

Next up, we saw a battle between two of the great zergs of HotS in (Z)soO and (Z)ByuL. Famed for their combined seven silver medals in Korean starleagues from 2013-15, both appear to be well on their way to regaining that vaunted form.
Early aggression was again the tale of the series as ByuL opted for early pools on multiple occasions. soO, famed for his bulletproof early defence in HotS ZvZ, dealt with these attacks with varying success, successfully repelling one on Newkirk Precinct, losing on Habitation Station, while taking a page from his opponent’s book to steal a quick win on Whirlwind too. After splitting the first four games, the duelling zergs moved to a decisive fifth game, the first of the day. On Echo soO once more favoured aggression, attempting to punish ByuL’s choice to go hatchery first. The effort would prove futile, however, as ByuL managed to hold the attack to earn a spot in the semifinals.

Finally, we got to the main event; a rematch of the BlizzCon Finals between (Z)Dark and (T)ByuN. While that match was decided almost entirely off ByuN's early reaper aggression, it was a completely different story here, with all games spiralling towards the late game. An absolute clinic in muta-ling-bane ZvT from Dark steamrollered his opponent on Daybreak as he leveraged his superior economy into an endless bane train that smashed through ByuN's marine-heavy composition, but we saw the opposite on Vaani Research Station; early hellbats bought enough time for ByuN to parade push a constant stream of bio-mine to victory. It seemed that we were in vintage 2014 TvZ territory, but Dark turned the clocks back even further with a roach-ravager rush on Overgrowth, again stunting ByuN sufficiently that the terran was unable to stop the follow up max.

Echo was a return to classical 4M vs muta-ling-bane though; another glorious display of TvZ that made us wonder how we put up with a muta-less matchup for most of the year. Backstabs from Dark tipped the balance in his favour, reducing ByuN to 20 workers, but the relentless stream of 3-3 marines took their toll, and after the Team Expert terran managed to secure a fresh mining base, he gradually ground Dark out of the game. It all set us up for a climactic showdown on Newkirk Precinct, as much for the bragging rights as for the semifinal spot on offer, and neither player disappointed. Infestors were crucial, as Dark abused the new burrow cast mechanic to great effect. Fungal after fungal landed as Dark secured a 4-base setup while teching to ultralisks. One last fungal on ByuN's entire ghost pack proved the final straw; as banelings vaporised his army, the terran was forced to tap out. After conquering his BlizzCon foe, Dark now rides on to face his ex-teammate INnoVation.






Semifinal #1 between (Z)Dark and (T)INnoVation will be played tomorrow in


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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
December 15 2016 07:43 GMT
#2
Wait what ? i watched yesterday the group stage and i wake up to those groups already played but it's said 15th of december
damnit kst time
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valas991
Profile Joined September 2014
Hungary181 Posts
December 15 2016 07:58 GMT
#3
On December 15 2016 16:43 FFW_Rude wrote:
Wait what ? i watched yesterday the group stage and i wake up to those groups already played but it's said 15th of december
damnit kst time

Yeah, same here

I just hope the finals will be at a time like GSL usually. Would be better (for me at least..)
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Haku
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany550 Posts
December 15 2016 08:08 GMT
#4
For EU the times are so fucked up anyways, the tournament feels unwatchable. They don´t really care anymore.
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
December 15 2016 08:36 GMT
#5
On December 15 2016 17:08 EXRNaRa wrote:
For EU the times are so fucked up anyways, the tournament feels unwatchable. They don´t really care anymore.


Come on... usually it's unwatchable for NA. Now they can watch it. We can't.

I don't get the : "It's not suitable for me" => "They don't care"
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Haku
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany550 Posts
December 15 2016 09:25 GMT
#6
On December 15 2016 17:36 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2016 17:08 EXRNaRa wrote:
For EU the times are so fucked up anyways, the tournament feels unwatchable. They don´t really care anymore.


Come on... usually it's unwatchable for NA. Now they can watch it. We can't.

I don't get the : "It's not suitable for me" => "They don't care"


You obv pointed the right thing out. I am just frustrated.
Jaedong | Life | MKP | PartinG | LosirA | ByuN | TaeJa | TY | TLO | Bomber | HerO | Rotti | Dark | Stephano | Maru | Ragnarok | MC | IdrA | Serral | Creator | Bunny | INnoVation | Liquid | Prime | JinAir
IIEclipseII
Profile Joined February 2016
Germany157 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-15 09:34:50
December 15 2016 09:33 GMT
#7
- delete pls -
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
December 15 2016 10:17 GMT
#8
The bottom half of the bracket turned out to be quite a surprise. I'm sure I wasn't the only person expecting a Maru vs soO semi
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Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
December 15 2016 10:25 GMT
#9
this ro.4 lineup... it's just so crazy!
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
December 15 2016 10:53 GMT
#10
couldn't get out of bed early enough, thanks for the writeup. Good to see Dark getting revenge.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
December 15 2016 11:00 GMT
#11
I was cheering for soO, but dam that was a nice zvz bo5. Solar vs soO in Shoutcraft was still a bit better, but it's great to see how good zvz can be.

The semis should be awesome, 6 am is not too bad of a time either.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
December 15 2016 12:03 GMT
#12
On December 15 2016 19:17 ZiggyPG wrote:
The bottom half of the bracket turned out to be quite a surprise. I'm sure I wasn't the only person expecting a Maru vs soO semi



Maru hasn't been too impressive ib LotV though, has he?
Sharkken
Profile Joined October 2012
Jordan141 Posts
December 15 2016 12:38 GMT
#13
So much for spoiler free thread titles!!!
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-15 13:43:03
December 15 2016 12:42 GMT
#14
On December 15 2016 21:38 Sharkken wrote:
So much for spoiler free thread titles!!!

The titles will have spoilers, but there is a no spoiler function now!

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/515196-spoiler-free-tl-is-back

When I know there has been a tournament and I want to watch the vods I always use teamliquid.net/nospoiler
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
December 15 2016 14:13 GMT
#15
Game 4 of Stats Maru was very anticlimatic, it had been a while I hadn't seen a terran loose 9 scv to an oracle opening, and I didn't expected Maru to be the guy that would suffer this.
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KOtical
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany451 Posts
December 15 2016 14:48 GMT
#16
On December 15 2016 17:36 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2016 17:08 EXRNaRa wrote:
For EU the times are so fucked up anyways, the tournament feels unwatchable. They don´t really care anymore.


Come on... usually it's unwatchable for NA. Now they can watch it. We can't.

I don't get the : "It's not suitable for me" => "They don't care"


well ESL has alot of downtime usually, so im happy i can enjoy the games in vods... saves alot of time
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4954 Posts
December 15 2016 15:00 GMT
#17
Another great ZvT incoming with Dark vs Inno :D
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dr3am_b3ing
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada188 Posts
December 15 2016 15:18 GMT
#18
I just wanted to see Maru and Byun
Potassium Gang
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
December 15 2016 15:44 GMT
#19
On December 15 2016 18:25 EXRNaRa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2016 17:36 FFW_Rude wrote:
On December 15 2016 17:08 EXRNaRa wrote:
For EU the times are so fucked up anyways, the tournament feels unwatchable. They don´t really care anymore.


Come on... usually it's unwatchable for NA. Now they can watch it. We can't.

I don't get the : "It's not suitable for me" => "They don't care"


You obv pointed the right thing out. I am just frustrated.

Wow, reasonable discourse. Just enjoy seeing that.

More on topic: COME ON DARK! Or Inno I guess. Either one works for me!
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
December 15 2016 16:24 GMT
#20
On December 15 2016 17:36 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2016 17:08 EXRNaRa wrote:
For EU the times are so fucked up anyways, the tournament feels unwatchable. They don´t really care anymore.


Come on... usually it's unwatchable for NA. Now they can watch it. We can't.

I don't get the : "It's not suitable for me" => "They don't care"


Someone will always get boned when the scene is split into three regions with timezone differences of at least 6 hours between them. That's the way it's always been.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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