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merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
December 11 2016 18:24 GMT
#161
This is still the same guy who almost made it through Courage on his first run, falling short 1-2 in the finals. If he's determined enough to make it he probably will.

GL NonY!
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
December 11 2016 18:33 GMT
#162
On December 10 2016 15:13 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
Even if I had a chance to be progamer, there is no way I would choose SC2. I love it, but not enough to risk my career. I'd probably play Hearthstone or OW.

Given an opportunity to pursue any career I wanted for one year, I would not choose SC2 as my career path.

Since when do you choose a game you want to play based on how feasible it is as a career? He'll play what he wants
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las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-11 20:02:47
December 11 2016 20:02 GMT
#163
Glad to hear he's planning on making another run, and I'll cheer him on as always!
In Inca we trust
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
December 11 2016 22:20 GMT
#164
aQuaSC, I never implied nor said he can't or can play what he wants. I said that I wouldn't choose it myself only because I know its much harder than a lot of other games out there.

It's one of the reasons I am stoked about NonY doing it. I have another SC2 fan to cheer for. Honestly, I was losing interest because of HS and OW. NonY is bringing the passion back in me.
Mengmeng
Profile Joined December 2015
12 Posts
December 11 2016 22:26 GMT
#165
Come back when there is less competition so you even have a chance. lol.

User was banned for this post.
RubberDucky88
Profile Joined December 2016
1 Post
Last Edited: 2016-12-11 22:49:13
December 11 2016 22:48 GMT
#166
i dont even watch sc2 anymore but made an account just to show how much i support you tyler. you fucking got this! its gonna get rough but your gonna pull through, your gonna lose to bs cheese time and time again and get frustrated, you're gonna make silly mistakes multiple times and lose, pissing yourself off in the process and probably feel like giving up. nonetheless NonY will prevail and become the powerhouse he was destined to be!


GL i will be keeping an eye on you :D
ThreeSixDrew
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada183 Posts
December 12 2016 00:19 GMT
#167
The man is a competitor at heart. Many people don't know he quickly became a competitive endurance athlete and has been very successful at it. He's got the drive and discipline.
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
December 12 2016 00:58 GMT
#168
Haven't watched SC2 in years but would tune in for the one and only Nony
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
CryovaK
Profile Joined May 2016
4 Posts
December 12 2016 03:45 GMT
#169
fucking aye, i was just wondering what hapened to Nony :D
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
December 13 2016 19:39 GMT
#170
Fan of Nony from SOTG, but just don't think it makes sense for anyone to try to come back to SC2. The viewership numbers just aren't there, teams are disbanding, players are all retiring. Everyone else has already moved on to MOBAs, coaching or casting. Not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. Could be fine as a hobby, but can't be good enough to reach top level if its just a hobby.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
December 13 2016 20:13 GMT
#171
On December 14 2016 04:39 fishjie wrote:
Fan of Nony from SOTG, but just don't think it makes sense for anyone to try to come back to SC2. The viewership numbers just aren't there, teams are disbanding, players are all retiring. Everyone else has already moved on to MOBAs, coaching or casting. Not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. Could be fine as a hobby, but can't be good enough to reach top level if its just a hobby.

How do you know so much about Nony's financial situation?
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
December 13 2016 21:33 GMT
#172
On December 14 2016 05:13 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2016 04:39 fishjie wrote:
Fan of Nony from SOTG, but just don't think it makes sense for anyone to try to come back to SC2. The viewership numbers just aren't there, teams are disbanding, players are all retiring. Everyone else has already moved on to MOBAs, coaching or casting. Not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. Could be fine as a hobby, but can't be good enough to reach top level if its just a hobby.

How do you know so much about Nony's financial situation?


Uh what does this have to do with anyone's specific financial situation? Its not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. There are no viewers, which means no individual sponsors, and which means the few remaining teams (which are pretty much all disbanded) have low salaries. Not a good move. How is this not clear from my post?
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
December 13 2016 21:41 GMT
#173
On December 14 2016 06:33 fishjie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2016 05:13 ZAiNs wrote:
On December 14 2016 04:39 fishjie wrote:
Fan of Nony from SOTG, but just don't think it makes sense for anyone to try to come back to SC2. The viewership numbers just aren't there, teams are disbanding, players are all retiring. Everyone else has already moved on to MOBAs, coaching or casting. Not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. Could be fine as a hobby, but can't be good enough to reach top level if its just a hobby.

How do you know so much about Nony's financial situation?


Uh what does this have to do with anyone's specific financial situation? Its not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. There are no viewers, which means no individual sponsors, and which means the few remaining teams (which are pretty much all disbanded) have low salaries. Not a good move. How is this not clear from my post?

point is that it doesnt have to be a financially good move i guess
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Splynn
Profile Joined September 2011
United States225 Posts
December 13 2016 21:59 GMT
#174
On December 14 2016 06:33 fishjie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2016 05:13 ZAiNs wrote:
On December 14 2016 04:39 fishjie wrote:
Fan of Nony from SOTG, but just don't think it makes sense for anyone to try to come back to SC2. The viewership numbers just aren't there, teams are disbanding, players are all retiring. Everyone else has already moved on to MOBAs, coaching or casting. Not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. Could be fine as a hobby, but can't be good enough to reach top level if its just a hobby.

How do you know so much about Nony's financial situation?


Uh what does this have to do with anyone's specific financial situation? Its not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. There are no viewers, which means no individual sponsors, and which means the few remaining teams (which are pretty much all disbanded) have low salaries. Not a good move. How is this not clear from my post?


In Nony's original tweet he talks about wanting to do it and it being a personal goal to go to Blizzcon. Nowhere does he say "I am doing this because it will be a great financial move." Maybe judge people less? Him returning to SC2 doesn't negatively affect you, and it's totally up to him. Quit being so negative for no good reason.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
December 14 2016 00:01 GMT
#175
On December 14 2016 06:59 Splynn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2016 06:33 fishjie wrote:
On December 14 2016 05:13 ZAiNs wrote:
On December 14 2016 04:39 fishjie wrote:
Fan of Nony from SOTG, but just don't think it makes sense for anyone to try to come back to SC2. The viewership numbers just aren't there, teams are disbanding, players are all retiring. Everyone else has already moved on to MOBAs, coaching or casting. Not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. Could be fine as a hobby, but can't be good enough to reach top level if its just a hobby.

How do you know so much about Nony's financial situation?


Uh what does this have to do with anyone's specific financial situation? Its not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. There are no viewers, which means no individual sponsors, and which means the few remaining teams (which are pretty much all disbanded) have low salaries. Not a good move. How is this not clear from my post?


In Nony's original tweet he talks about wanting to do it and it being a personal goal to go to Blizzcon. Nowhere does he say "I am doing this because it will be a great financial move." Maybe judge people less? Him returning to SC2 doesn't negatively affect you, and it's totally up to him. Quit being so negative for no good reason.


He is right though, SC2 isn't that popular. That said, it depends if Nony wants competition more than money.
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
December 14 2016 08:21 GMT
#176
So i decided to check up on what's been happening in the SC world since i stopped following everything, and the first thing i see is NonY making a comeback, wow!

Arbiterssssssssss
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
December 14 2016 08:58 GMT
#177
On December 14 2016 06:33 fishjie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2016 05:13 ZAiNs wrote:
On December 14 2016 04:39 fishjie wrote:
Fan of Nony from SOTG, but just don't think it makes sense for anyone to try to come back to SC2. The viewership numbers just aren't there, teams are disbanding, players are all retiring. Everyone else has already moved on to MOBAs, coaching or casting. Not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. Could be fine as a hobby, but can't be good enough to reach top level if its just a hobby.

How do you know so much about Nony's financial situation?


Uh what does this have to do with anyone's specific financial situation? Its not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. There are no viewers, which means no individual sponsors, and which means the few remaining teams (which are pretty much all disbanded) have low salaries. Not a good move. How is this not clear from my post?


are you the guy who goes to mcdonalds and tell the cashiers "wow you know actually this food isn't that healthy"?
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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
December 14 2016 16:18 GMT
#178
On December 14 2016 06:33 fishjie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2016 05:13 ZAiNs wrote:
On December 14 2016 04:39 fishjie wrote:
Fan of Nony from SOTG, but just don't think it makes sense for anyone to try to come back to SC2. The viewership numbers just aren't there, teams are disbanding, players are all retiring. Everyone else has already moved on to MOBAs, coaching or casting. Not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. Could be fine as a hobby, but can't be good enough to reach top level if its just a hobby.

How do you know so much about Nony's financial situation?


Uh what does this have to do with anyone's specific financial situation? Its not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. There are no viewers, which means no individual sponsors, and which means the few remaining teams (which are pretty much all disbanded) have low salaries. Not a good move. How is this not clear from my post?

You're saying returning to SC2 is a bad decision purely because it's a bad financial one, which everyone including Nony knows. You said you can't reach top-level if it's 'just a hobby' which I interpreted 'you have to play full-time to reach top-level', even though Nony may have enough money to play full-time for a year without making a dollar from SC2. It's pretty silly for you to assume Nony didn't use his brain when deciding to return, and rude to be so dismissive of somebody obviously following their passion.
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
December 14 2016 16:35 GMT
#179
On December 15 2016 01:18 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2016 06:33 fishjie wrote:
On December 14 2016 05:13 ZAiNs wrote:
On December 14 2016 04:39 fishjie wrote:
Fan of Nony from SOTG, but just don't think it makes sense for anyone to try to come back to SC2. The viewership numbers just aren't there, teams are disbanding, players are all retiring. Everyone else has already moved on to MOBAs, coaching or casting. Not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. Could be fine as a hobby, but can't be good enough to reach top level if its just a hobby.

How do you know so much about Nony's financial situation?


Uh what does this have to do with anyone's specific financial situation? Its not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. There are no viewers, which means no individual sponsors, and which means the few remaining teams (which are pretty much all disbanded) have low salaries. Not a good move. How is this not clear from my post?

You're saying returning to SC2 is a bad decision purely because it's a bad financial one, which everyone including Nony knows. You said you can't reach top-level if it's 'just a hobby' which I interpreted 'you have to play full-time to reach top-level', even though Nony may have enough money to play full-time for a year without making a dollar from SC2. It's pretty silly for you to assume Nony didn't use his brain when deciding to return, and rude to be so dismissive of somebody obviously following their passion.


it's pretty honest of him to just name the financial situation of a sc2 progamer as he perceives it. Then again, it's a bit of a no-brainer i admit. I don't think he tries to be dismissive about nony's passion, when he saying "Not a good move financially to be pro at sc2"

But it surely is no reason not to come back. Plenty of folks play their favorite game still/came back whit a lot of dedication and zero monetary incentive.
Broodwar for life!
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
December 14 2016 19:13 GMT
#180
lol i was going to stop responding because people apparently don't like to acknowledge reality.

so i'll just say this, remember your snide holier than though responses to this post months from now, as team X,Y,Z announces disbanding and player A,B,C announce the switch to coaching a LoL team. Although I guess with EG disbanding their sc2 squad there really aren't any big teams to disband anymore. Team liquid is still around, but i'm not sure how many players on their roster are actually still active.

Even if it were naniwa or stephano who had way more success in sc2 than nony did announcing a return, i'd have the same response. it makes way more sense for nony to either go back to BW like many pros are, where he actually had legit success, or move on to LoL or DOTA where there's actual money
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