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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51702 Posts
On September 05 2016 13:57 Wrath wrote: With the mega thread: - Eliminate any discussion outside the forum by redirecting them there (The ultimate toilet) - have giggles from reading the posts there. 1 2 | ||
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Wrath
3176 Posts
Whats wrong with new ideas? | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51702 Posts
More importantly they need to be good. | ||
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fluidrone
France1478 Posts
"am i crazy for voting trump" blog going.. asking for more is really weird?! dyafollow? On topic: so much off topic :/ | ||
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PPN
France248 Posts
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On September 05 2016 16:26 fluidrone wrote: If people want something.. it exists.. you have your mega thread right here.. just like others got the "am i crazy for voting trump" blog going.. asking for more is really weird?! dyafollow? On topic: so much off topic :/ To be fair, the source material is extremely vague and doesn't have any actual value. So naturally the disussion around it will be all over the place. | ||
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Shana
Indonesia1814 Posts
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TaShadan
Germany1982 Posts
On September 05 2016 20:39 Shana wrote: So, dual league just like last bw Proleague? Oh my god. Please.... not this horror again. I would rather have no league at all. | ||
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insitelol
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FLuE
United States1012 Posts
On September 05 2016 22:04 insitelol wrote: All this BW hype is just becoming hilarious. Next time you guys should making an assumption based on how stars alligned during bisu stream. And for certain this assumption should be encrypted. Sc2 players mass switching to bw, BW HD incoming and rumors about BW PL, everything can happen while you dream. In reality there is NO reason for any party (kespa/blizzard) to switch Sc2 for BW for PL format or their main title. "BW is bigger than SC2 in korea" is ridiculous and plain wrong statement with no real evidence in the first place. At best they are on par. And don't even start with stream viewership numbers stuff with no kespa players allowed to stream. Save you breath for the day you see Maru/Dark/SoS/hero stream along with bisu and flash. About the technical side of the things: how on earth do you imagine a BW PL w/o a single pro kespa team and even a single kepsa pro player? This "switch" would require an enormous investment and i doubt it's even remotly possible in the nearest future. And for what? Change one B-title for another B-title discipline. Ditching SC2 for BW looks like an awfull and counterintuitive decision for both blizzard and kespa. It's just "not worth it" in a common sense. This is very spot on. Although in theory to the hardcore BW lovers this sounds like a way to reinvigorate the General RTS scene without some drastic quality of play changes to BW you'd have trouble pulling in new or casual players, even more so than SC2. BW HD would need to include features like unlimited unit selection, mbs, worker rally, etc to have a shot at appealing to a newer gaming generation and then it will frustrate the die hards. Not that BW HD couldn't be a cool thing to do but the business strategy makes little sense if it includes some sort of abandonment of any part of SC2. That's admitting failure not something Blizzard likes to do. I feel either way Blizzard is pushing the eSport part of all of this way too much. If they focused more on investing in the quality of the game the scene would thrive, instead of trying to force an eSport scene while the game itself is lacking. | ||
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Thouhastmail
Korea (North)876 Posts
On September 05 2016 22:04 insitelol wrote: I feel either way Blizzard is pushing the eSport part of all of this way too much. If they focused more on investing in the quality of the game the scene would thrive, instead of trying to force an eSport scene while the game itself is lacking. This. DK is the one who should be responsible for this. | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On September 05 2016 22:23 Thouhastmail wrote: This. DK is the one who should be responsible for this. For what? DK is a balance designer, nothing more. If he doesn't get the order to redesign the game, he won't do it. | ||
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ionONE
Germany605 Posts
On September 05 2016 22:04 insitelol wrote: All this BW hype is just becoming hilarious. Next time you guys should making an assumption based on how stars alligned during bisu stream. And for certain this assumption should be encrypted. Sc2 players mass switching to bw, BW HD incoming and rumors about BW PL, everything can happen while you dream. In reality there is NO reason for any party (kespa/blizzard) to switch Sc2 for BW for PL format or their main title. "BW is bigger than SC2 in korea" is ridiculous and plain wrong statement with no real evidence in the first place. At best they are on par. And don't even start with stream viewership numbers stuff with no kespa players allowed to stream. Save you breath for the day you see Maru/Dark/SoS/hero stream along with bisu and flash. About the technical side of the things: how on earth do you imagine a BW PL w/o a single pro kespa team and even a single kepsa pro player? This "switch" would require an enormous investment and i doubt it's even remotly possible in the nearest future. And for what? Change one B-title for another B-title discipline. Ditching SC2 for BW looks like an awfull and counterintuitive decision for both blizzard and kespa. It's just "not worth it" in a common sense. Well i saw MC streaming on afreeca and twitch simultaneously. In theory you would think he gets lots of viewers (dancing and singing + sc2) The truth is he was averaging about <100 viewers on afreeca, on twitch 500 - 1000. Why is byun, the famous terran player not streaming on afreeca? | ||
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Shinokuki
United States928 Posts
On September 05 2016 22:04 insitelol wrote: All this BW hype is just becoming hilarious. Next time you guys should making an assumption based on how stars alligned during bisu stream. And for certain this assumption should be encrypted. Sc2 players mass switching to bw, BW HD incoming and rumors about BW PL, everything can happen while you dream. In reality there is NO reason for any party (kespa/blizzard) to switch Sc2 for BW for PL format or their main title. "BW is bigger than SC2 in korea" is ridiculous and plain wrong statement with no real evidence in the first place. At best they are on par. And don't even start with stream viewership numbers stuff with no kespa players allowed to stream. Save you breath for the day you see Maru/Dark/SoS/hero stream along with bisu and flash. About the technical side of the things: how on earth do you imagine a BW PL w/o a single pro kespa team and even a single kepsa pro player? This "switch" would require an enormous investment and i doubt it's even remotly possible in the nearest future. And for what? Change one B-title for another B-title discipline. Ditching SC2 for BW looks like an awfull and counterintuitive decision for both blizzard and kespa. It's just "not worth it" in a common sense. they are not even on par. I'm korean and sc2 is completely irrelevant. Afreeca stream pretty much tells rest of the story. The fact that RAIN, one of biggest sc2's star, came to afreeca and got 100 viewers AFTER flash buffed him up with popularity basically summarize sc2's state. Rain chose to not even play sc2 but bw for viewers as well. Idk how you think sc2 is on par. PC bang statistics indicate that bw is 10 times more popular than sc2. (2.5% vs .23%). Afreeca streams also indicate that bw is way more popular because Afreeca is like the "twitch" of korea where all gamers stream.If Maru or Dark streams then they'll get 300 viewers max at best. NO ONE KNOWS WHO THEY ARE IN KOREA. THEY'RE COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT. When life was caught MATCH FIXING, koreans were like WHO IS HE? | ||
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palexhur
Colombia730 Posts
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Thouhastmail
Korea (North)876 Posts
On September 06 2016 01:06 Shinokuki wrote: they are not even on par. I'm korean and sc2 is completely irrelevant. Afreeca stream pretty much tells rest of the story. The fact that RAIN, one of biggest sc2's star, came to afreeca and got 100 viewers AFTER flash buffed him up with popularity basically summarize sc2's state. Rain chose to not even play sc2 but bw for viewers as well. Idk how you think sc2 is on par. PC bang statistics indicate that bw is 10 times more popular than sc2. (2.5% vs .23%). Afreeca streams also indicate that bw is way more popular because Afreeca is like the "twitch" of korea where all gamers stream.If Maru or Dark streams then they'll get 300 viewers max at best. NO ONE KNOWS WHO THEY ARE IN KOREA. THEY'RE COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT. When life was caught MATCH FIXING, koreans were like WHO IS HE? Since when 2.68% become 23% ? ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/W2hQJ1G.jpg) | ||
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palexhur
Colombia730 Posts
He says 2.5% for BW and 0.23% for SC2 | ||
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Thouhastmail
Korea (North)876 Posts
Uh, Okay then. my mistake. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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Thouhastmail
Korea (North)876 Posts
On September 06 2016 01:23 The_Red_Viper wrote: I still would be interested in some fish server stats, if anybody who speaks korean could provide this it would be great (why did you ban winterviewbot -.- ) we already had a bout about that too. https://www.fishbattle.io/ 6927 players (including adbots), 1397 games. | ||
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