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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-11 09:41:38
June 11 2016 09:39 GMT
#41
Congrats to the mapmakers!

Namaste and Shive were so close, votede for both of them :/.

I did not vote for new Gettysburg because of the 2 islands in the middle were just too much, but Blizzard said that the map was already changed for the ladder and those bases are no longer islands. I would've voted for New Gettysburg too if I had know about that change, well deserved first place!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10710 Posts
June 11 2016 10:08 GMT
#42
Congrats to the winners, they were all really good maps, these maps are amazing and probably the best I have seen yet! Can't wait to play on them =)
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Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
June 11 2016 13:05 GMT
#43
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IeZaeL
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy991 Posts
June 11 2016 13:05 GMT
#44
Gratz!
Author of Coda and Eastwatch.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-11 13:09:19
June 11 2016 13:07 GMT
#45
On June 11 2016 18:39 Musicus wrote:
Congrats to the mapmakers!

Namaste and Shive were so close, votede for both of them :/.

I did not vote for new Gettysburg because of the 2 islands in the middle were just too much, but Blizzard said that the map was already changed for the ladder and those bases are no longer islands. I would've voted for New Gettysburg too if I had know about that change, well deserved first place!

The new version we'll see in Proleague and probably on ladder:
[image loading]

In Proleague there was a graphic likening it to a mixture of Ulrena and Akilon Wastes.
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Latias4Ever
Profile Joined November 2013
Portugal11 Posts
June 12 2016 00:22 GMT
#46
I'll be honest, I'm somewhat disappointed in these results. I never liked New Gettysburg, and honestly? Galactic Process is nothing but a reskinned Cloud Kingdom. How it made it into fourth is beyond me. Annihilation Station reminds me of Daybreak and Cloud Kingdom, too, so... I'm not sure about it making third place.

Having voted for all of AVEX's maps, Flame Juggler and Aiur Plateau... I'm disappointed on how little my voting influenced anything. Oh well, guess I'll have another map to veto coming next season with New Gettysburg. At least Gojira made it to fifth, I suppose.
Latias4Ever!
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
June 12 2016 01:00 GMT
#47
Of all the new maps, New Gettysburg is the most boring...

Why does the most boring, most standard map get first place?

Remove the islands, and it's the most boring map in the pool. Not to mention Blizzard's version is modified so that it only has two islands.

Seriously people?
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
June 12 2016 01:16 GMT
#48
Results I can get behind, for once. I like how mostly macro standardish maps came out of the context and look forward to see some of them incorporated to ladder.
ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1777 Posts
June 12 2016 02:05 GMT
#49
On June 12 2016 10:00 Qwyn wrote:
Of all the new maps, New Gettysburg is the most boring...

Why does the most boring, most standard map get first place?

Remove the islands, and it's the most boring map in the pool. Not to mention Blizzard's version is modified so that it only has two islands.

Seriously people?

The TLMC proved it was anything but boring. The tournament won it for the map.
OrangeGarage
Profile Joined October 2015
Korea (South)319 Posts
June 12 2016 02:12 GMT
#50
On June 12 2016 10:00 Qwyn wrote:
Of all the new maps, New Gettysburg is the most boring...

Why does the most boring, most standard map get first place?

Remove the islands, and it's the most boring map in the pool. Not to mention Blizzard's version is modified so that it only has two islands.

Seriously people?

the islands were not removed...? So its not boring...?
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
June 12 2016 02:18 GMT
#51
As it turns out, I was right to worry.
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Fatam
Profile Joined June 2012
1986 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-12 02:21:37
June 12 2016 02:20 GMT
#52
I think it's probable that the map got a bit lucky in the limited games that we got in the tourney. As the old adage goes, just because a map has some good games on it, does not mean it's because of the map (or something to that effect). SC2 is a great game with some creative and entertaining players, and so entertaining games can happen even on the worst of maps (as we've clearly seen in the past).

That said I think the map is solid and inoffensive. I have no major qualms with it. Although I do think the expansions and some of the terrain features could have been much more interesting without making things imbalanced.
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-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2142 Posts
June 12 2016 02:37 GMT
#53
On June 12 2016 11:12 RCCar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2016 10:00 Qwyn wrote:
Of all the new maps, New Gettysburg is the most boring...

Why does the most boring, most standard map get first place?

Remove the islands, and it's the most boring map in the pool. Not to mention Blizzard's version is modified so that it only has two islands.

Seriously people?

the islands were not removed...? So its not boring...?

the proleague version (which will probably end up being the ladder version) has the center islands replaced with normal ground-accessible bases
vibeo gane,
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-12 03:51:26
June 12 2016 03:25 GMT
#54
On June 12 2016 11:05 ssg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2016 10:00 Qwyn wrote:
Of all the new maps, New Gettysburg is the most boring...

Why does the most boring, most standard map get first place?

Remove the islands, and it's the most boring map in the pool. Not to mention Blizzard's version is modified so that it only has two islands.

Seriously people?

The TLMC proved it was anything but boring. The tournament won it for the map.


I watched the whole tournament, and I still stand by my opinion that the map was boring! (Partly as Fatam said, but also because split map late game is not that interesting to me).

The only interesting feature are the islands. The race best equipped to take advantage of them (as we saw IN the tournament) is Terran (Toss and Zerg can too, is true).

Now two of the islands have been removed and the map looks even more like a (better) version of Newkirk Precinct.

I just feel that there are a few maps more deserving of the #1 spot. This map is too big. It's going to lead to split map late game more often than not.

I'm of the opinion that you can build a macro map that encourages a lot of aggression without acquiescing quietly to a split map T3 turtle-fest.

Regardless, props to ALL the mapmakers who submitted. You guys continually impress me with how gosu you are at making maps every time around.

Seriously, map making is the most underappreciated part of SC. You guys killed it. Hoping for an incredible map pool next season .

>> NegativeZero, Blizzard has confirmed that the PL version of Gettysburg will end up being the ladder version, thus my prior statements. See the latest community feedback update.

Also just wanted to say that I am really looking forward to Apoth in the ladder next season, and that IMHO you have the strongest handle on proper map proportions.
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
Adept
Profile Joined December 2009
United States472 Posts
June 12 2016 23:00 GMT
#55
Really just awesome maps all through the contest, congrats to the winners too! Can't wait to see these start to get used more often
"HSC casting is essentially an LR thread read aloud." -ThomasjServo
phantomfive
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)404 Posts
June 15 2016 07:01 GMT
#56
On June 11 2016 22:07 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 18:39 Musicus wrote:
Congrats to the mapmakers!

Namaste and Shive were so close, votede for both of them :/.

I did not vote for new Gettysburg because of the 2 islands in the middle were just too much, but Blizzard said that the map was already changed for the ladder and those bases are no longer islands. I would've voted for New Gettysburg too if I had know about that change, well deserved first place!

The new version we'll see in Proleague and probably on ladder:
[image loading]

In Proleague there was a graphic likening it to a mixture of Ulrena and Akilon Wastes.


That map actually looks quite good. Although it looks like Ulrena, it's a wider map, so the air rush distance isn't super short.
To ease another's heartache is to forget one's own - Lincoln
EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
June 15 2016 08:49 GMT
#57
On June 11 2016 17:27 Fatam wrote:
Good post, good points, except the
Show nested quote +
Second of all managing scouting RNG is a skill. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you get unlucky; a great player can leverage or mitigate that variance
part is kind of BS. Great players can make the best of any terribly designed thing in any game, and they do because they love the game overall, but that doesn't make it a good thing.

edit: sort of back on-topic: I am also sad that Shiva + Korhal didn't place. I also liked Paladino. Although maybe even more than those I would have liked to see more action on Dasan now that is has been revamped. Looks like it has potential.

So there isn't skill in poker, just bad beats?

(Imo some rng is quite healthy)
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