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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
April 29 2016 23:50 GMT
#1
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Protoss

Photon Cannon
  • Anti-air damage increased from 20 to 20 (+10 bio)


Terran

Thor
  • Anti-air attack changed from splash to single-target
  • Damage changed to 35 (+15 armored) every 2.14 seconds
  • Only one hit per attack

Liberator
  • Anti-air damage changed to 4 (+3 light)


Zerg

Swarm Host
  • Cost reduced from 200/100 to 150/75
  • Supply cost increased from 3 to 4
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-29 23:55:46
April 29 2016 23:53 GMT
#2
Poll: Photon Cannon AA Change?

Wrong Change made (463)
 
56%

Good Change (195)
 
24%

Bad Change (102)
 
12%

Insignificant (69)
 
8%

829 total votes

Your vote: Photon Cannon AA Change?

(Vote): Good Change
(Vote): Bad Change
(Vote): Insignificant
(Vote): Wrong Change made


Poll: Thor AA Change?

Bad Change (319)
 
50%

Good Change (142)
 
22%

Wrong Change made (122)
 
19%

Insignificant (55)
 
9%

638 total votes

Your vote: Thor AA Change?

(Vote): Good Change
(Vote): Bad Change
(Vote): Insignificant
(Vote): Wrong Change made


Poll: Liberator AA Change?

Wrong Change made (291)
 
48%

Good Change (215)
 
35%

Bad Change (89)
 
15%

Insignificant (16)
 
3%

611 total votes

Your vote: Liberator AA Change?

(Vote): Good Change
(Vote): Bad Change
(Vote): Insignificant
(Vote): Wrong Change made


Poll: Swarm Host Change?

Wrong Change made (322)
 
52%

Insignificant (148)
 
24%

Good Change (97)
 
16%

Bad Change (56)
 
9%

623 total votes

Your vote: Swarm Host Change?

(Vote): Good Change
(Vote): Bad Change
(Vote): Insignificant
(Vote): Wrong Change made

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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
April 29 2016 23:59 GMT
#3
Photon Cannon
Anti-air damage increased from 20 to 20 (+10 bio)

Uh.... wtf?
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16101 Posts
April 30 2016 00:01 GMT
#4
Thors are never used and they still get nerfed. Mutas will shit on them now. this change is so bad.
Why would you nerf one of the most underused units in the game??
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bObA
Profile Joined May 2012
France300 Posts
April 30 2016 00:01 GMT
#5
I am not sure about liberators since mass corruptors will kill them easily
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
April 30 2016 00:01 GMT
#6
Photon Cannon = definitely wrong change made.

Not only does this change kills mutalisks, it also makes mothership + air + cannons/storm even more unbreakable. Really not a fine change. The other ones should be more or less harmless.
Kafka777
Profile Joined December 2015
361 Posts
April 30 2016 00:04 GMT
#7
Yes, indeed Protoss does not have anti-air options. Lets buff cannon. This is ludicrous. How silly this is.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
April 30 2016 00:05 GMT
#8
By the way I wonder which feedback they took that told them those changes were the ones to make. Very confusing.
Buddy168
Profile Joined June 2012
United States157 Posts
April 30 2016 00:06 GMT
#9
Yay Swarm Hosts.
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coolman123123
Profile Joined August 2013
146 Posts
April 30 2016 00:08 GMT
#10
I like the Thor change but I don't think it has the range to be useful against Brood Lords or Tempests. Range upgrade would be a fantastic addition.
Cluster__
Profile Joined September 2013
United States328 Posts
April 30 2016 00:10 GMT
#11
Is that AA change to Liberator a nerf or a buff? What was it previously?
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Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
April 30 2016 00:13 GMT
#12
Lol these polls. Glad to see Blizzard is as good at listening to the community as they have always been.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
April 30 2016 00:14 GMT
#13
On April 30 2016 09:13 Solar424 wrote:
Lol these polls. Glad to see Blizzard is as good at listening to the community as they have always been.

sort of
Wyrdness
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom29 Posts
April 30 2016 00:14 GMT
#14
Oh boy SH getting a buff but nothing on the Banshee or Cyclone.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
April 30 2016 00:16 GMT
#15
On April 30 2016 09:14 Wyrdness wrote:
Oh boy SH getting a buff but nothing on the Banshee or Cyclone.

I'm not sure I'd even call it a buff, the supply increase might actually make it worse than before tbh.
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-30 00:17:17
April 30 2016 00:16 GMT
#16
I honestly don't understand how any of these changes actually help the game, as I feel like at best these changes are just wrong.

Photon Cannon Anti-air damage increased from 20 to 20 (+10 bio)
This doesn't address the fact that stargate is still the best opener versus Zerg for more reasons than just being anti muta, now you're just shutting down mutas harder with an opening that is still amazing. The last thing PvZ needs is the protoss having the ability to skip the phoenix step and get right to massing immortals.

Thor/Liberator changes
This doesn't address the fact that the thor overlaps with too many terran units, and isn't really as good. Your factory time is better off with almost any other unit while just building liberators/vikings out of a reactored starport. Maybe the damage changes will help thors find their role as opposed to liberators but I'm skeptical.

Swarmhost change
This one I'm closest to happy about, but I think the increase in supply will make it not worth the cost buff.

I'd personally like to see a change to the muta instead of just making anti muta things better. Perhaps play with the regeneration stats so its somewhere between normal zerg unit and its current form. Remove liberator AA splash damage and give it back to the thor. Remove detection capabilities from the oracle but allow units that are hit with revelation be detected should they burrow/cloak (ie an unburrowed lurker that gets revelation cast on it will still be detected if it burrows). This would, without changing numbers stop robos from being immortal production facilities and allow for more interaction between protoss and zerg than "I clicked on a spot and flew away now I see everything".

end rant

EDIT: thank god the banshee speed change didn't go through
ArgusDreamer
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada63 Posts
April 30 2016 00:16 GMT
#17
*swarmhost 4 supply cringe* may as well make the unit 100/100 cost. My prediction people use Swarmhost just as often as before...which is never or now it'll be lets try em out and justify it.
It'll be a sad story is all i'm thinking. Any buff to units who are vastly under used is cool, not if it's actually coupled with a straight up nerf.
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
April 30 2016 00:17 GMT
#18
On April 30 2016 09:16 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2016 09:14 Wyrdness wrote:
Oh boy SH getting a buff but nothing on the Banshee or Cyclone.

I'm not sure I'd even call it a buff, the supply increase might actually make it worse than before tbh.

think so too the supply change is huge -and would have been more relevant on the tempest if you ask me...
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16101 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-02 19:08:06
April 30 2016 00:18 GMT
#19
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
sc2chronic
Profile Joined May 2012
United States777 Posts
April 30 2016 00:23 GMT
#20
lmao smh at the swarm host
terrible, terrible, damage
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