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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
However I think it's time to stop putting blame on KeSPA. I'm sure they're not exactly happy with this situation either; an "you reap what you sow" approach towards KeSPA is not productive at all. I hope they look at the situation and start looking towards lasting, effective solutions for the protection of progamers and Starcraft. Anyway, this is absolutely terrible news. I hope it never happens again. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On April 21 2016 20:26 SinO[Ob] wrote: I still dont get why Life MF. I mean 30k$ is huge but Life had won so much already and could have win way more by simply playing.... I'd really like to know, why? Its rumoured that he had gambling problems | ||
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WidowMineHero
New Zealand143 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES49496 Posts
On April 21 2016 20:29 WidowMineHero wrote: So this is why bbyong wasn't on the CJ line up. surprised no one spoke much about bbyong before this. because it was one set and he turned himself in, I'm not surprised everyone is letting him off easy. | ||
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SinO[Ob]
France897 Posts
Damn inner demons :/ | ||
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sparklyresidue
United States5522 Posts
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
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404AlphaSquad
839 Posts
On April 21 2016 20:13 Krymming wrote: For all we know Life might actually be trash at the game and his whole career a long match-fixing streak... Jokes aside though, dont you think its kinda hilarious that its only zerg and terran players that match fix? Now Life and bbong. Earlier: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Match_Fixing_Scandal http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_Match-Fixing_Scandal With this evidence the only way to be 100% stasticially sure to stop match-fixing is to ban zerg and terran from tournaments The prosecutor is protoss player ^^ | ||
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Fetti
6 Posts
The sad thruth is, the only thing better than "having money" is, well, having more money. I pretty much don't care for his reasonings behind this, although they could help getting some sort of "understanding" for his behaviour. But well, getting 62k US-$ for actually not even LOSING the matches? Such an easy way of getting a ton of money, even without ruining your tournament run? That's really tempting. This doesn't actually NEED a proper reasoning such as gambling, that whole opportunity is just way to easy. | ||
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stargunner
United States135 Posts
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fronkschnonk
Germany622 Posts
Assuming him being remorseful is just a wild guess (just like mine ^^). | ||
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Superbanana
2369 Posts
I wonder if he matchfixed under a threat. edit: fronkschnonk, lol it sounds like i am replying to you, so to be clear, im not saying its less worse in Bbyong's case, though it could be. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12128 Posts
On April 21 2016 20:35 Fetti wrote: The sad thruth is, the only thing better than "having money" is, well, having more money. I pretty much don't care for his reasonings behind this, although they could help getting some sort of "understanding" for his behaviour. But well, getting 62k US-$ for actually not even LOSING the matches? Such an easy way of getting a ton of money, even without ruining your tournament run? That's really tempting. This doesn't actually NEED a proper reasoning such as gambling, that whole opportunity is just way to easy. Using "dirty" money is a problem. You cannot use them easily because it attracts an attention of bureaus and you can be easily investigated. My mom works in prison and I've heard several stories about people who thought that having more money in shady way is actually easy and you can use them without any problems  | ||
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SinO[Ob]
France897 Posts
On April 21 2016 20:35 Fetti wrote: The sad thruth is, the only thing better than "having money" is, well, having more money. I pretty much don't care for his reasonings behind this, although they could help getting some sort of "understanding" for his behaviour. But well, getting 62k US-$ for actually not even LOSING the matches? Such an easy way of getting a ton of money, even without ruining your tournament run? That's really tempting. This doesn't actually NEED a proper reasoning such as gambling, that whole opportunity is just way to easy. Yep, I guess you're right. God I would love to slap Life just once... When players aren't succesfull I can get why MF can be a solution (Prime). But here, meh, this is just disappointing. At least I'm glad that no player is safe from an investigation. Even if its a big name. Here's my ray of hope. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12128 Posts
On April 21 2016 20:42 SinO[Ob] wrote: Yep, I guess you're right. God I would love to slap Life just once... When players aren't succesfull I can get why MF can be a solution (Prime). But here, meh, this is just disappointing. At least I'm glad that no player is safe from an investigation. Even if its a big name. Here's my ray of hope. In the case of Prime - they were practically slaves. It§s not that they were not successful, the MF of Prime uncovered a lot of dirt on the team and Gerrard. | ||
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Superbanana
2369 Posts
On April 21 2016 20:13 Krymming wrote: For all we know Life might actually be trash at the game and his whole career a long match-fixing streak... Jokes aside though, dont you think its kinda hilarious that its only zerg and terran players that match fix? Now Life and bbong. Earlier: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Match_Fixing_Scandal http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_Match-Fixing_Scandal With this evidence the only way to be 100% stasticially sure to stop match-fixing is to ban zerg and terran from tournaments Protoss can play dirty in game  | ||
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Glorfindel!
Sweden1815 Posts
On April 21 2016 20:29 WidowMineHero wrote: So this is why bbyong wasn't on the CJ line up. surprised no one spoke much about bbyong before this. Well TL mods tend to be quite sensitive for speculations.. Like you get banned for mentioning MKP in a thread like this.... To even dare speak avout BByong, no way. We shall not discuss these things  | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES49496 Posts
On April 21 2016 20:45 Glorfindel! wrote: Well TL mods tend to be quite sensitive for speculations.. Like you get banned for mentioning MKP in a thread like this.... To even dare speak avout BByong, no way. We shall not discuss these things bbyong is convicted, MKP is not even related to this, you're safe. | ||
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Fetti
6 Posts
On April 21 2016 20:40 deacon.frost wrote: Using "dirty" money is a problem. You cannot use them easily because it attracts an attention of bureaus and you can be easily investigated. My mom works in prison and I've heard several stories about people who thought that having more money in shady way is actually easy and you can use them without any problems Yeah, that's actually a good point. On the other hand, life is 19 years old, who knows what amount of "Common sense" he accumulated. Yeah, he has had a pro-gaming career any SC2-pro can only dream of, but what else? His career would come to an end, one way or another, and he HAD to think of what's coming after this. So there is this opportunity, getting that huge chunk of money, with a very little chance of anyone noticing, since he didn't even generate an upset. He lost 2 maps, get's a really nice payout, and continues his way to the very top of SC2. All reasoning aside, how is this not oh so tempting for a 19 year old guy, that may not even know how his life is going to be AFTER his Pro-Gaming time? | ||
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polpot
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