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Prosecutor's Report: Life & Bbyong match-fixing - Page 5

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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
April 21 2016 11:26 GMT
#81
It's just terrible.

However I think it's time to stop putting blame on KeSPA. I'm sure they're not exactly happy with this situation either; an "you reap what you sow" approach towards KeSPA is not productive at all.

I hope they look at the situation and start looking towards lasting, effective solutions for the protection of progamers and Starcraft.

Anyway, this is absolutely terrible news. I hope it never happens again.
maru lover forever
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 21 2016 11:28 GMT
#82
On April 21 2016 20:26 SinO[Ob] wrote:
I still dont get why Life MF. I mean 30k$ is huge but Life had won so much already and could have win way more by simply playing.... I'd really like to know, why?

Its rumoured that he had gambling problems
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
WidowMineHero
Profile Joined September 2014
New Zealand143 Posts
April 21 2016 11:29 GMT
#83
So this is why bbyong wasn't on the CJ line up. surprised no one spoke much about bbyong before this.
"Time won't change anything, I will."
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50754 Posts
April 21 2016 11:29 GMT
#84
On April 21 2016 20:29 WidowMineHero wrote:
So this is why bbyong wasn't on the CJ line up. surprised no one spoke much about bbyong before this.


because it was one set and he turned himself in, I'm not surprised everyone is letting him off easy.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
SinO[Ob]
Profile Joined October 2010
France898 Posts
April 21 2016 11:30 GMT
#85
On April 21 2016 20:28 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 20:26 SinO[Ob] wrote:
I still dont get why Life MF. I mean 30k$ is huge but Life had won so much already and could have win way more by simply playing.... I'd really like to know, why?

Its rumoured that he had gambling problems


Damn inner demons :/
Stephano and Clem enjoyer
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
April 21 2016 11:31 GMT
#86
Right after that great article about the rivalry between Life and Dream, too. Looks like he didn't value that as much have as we all did.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
April 21 2016 11:33 GMT
#87
I hope blizzard has the balls to void his championships. Prove that they actually give a shit
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
404AlphaSquad
Profile Joined October 2011
839 Posts
April 21 2016 11:33 GMT
#88
On April 21 2016 20:13 Krymming wrote:
For all we know Life might actually be trash at the game and his whole career a long match-fixing streak...
Jokes aside though, dont you think its kinda hilarious that its only zerg and terran players that match fix? Now Life and bbong.
Earlier:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Match_Fixing_Scandal
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_Match-Fixing_Scandal


With this evidence the only way to be 100% stasticially sure to stop match-fixing is to ban zerg and terran from tournaments

The prosecutor is protoss player ^^
aka Kalevi
Fetti
Profile Joined April 2016
6 Posts
April 21 2016 11:35 GMT
#89
On April 21 2016 20:28 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 20:26 SinO[Ob] wrote:
I still dont get why Life MF. I mean 30k$ is huge but Life had won so much already and could have win way more by simply playing.... I'd really like to know, why?

Its rumoured that he had gambling problems


The sad thruth is, the only thing better than "having money" is, well, having more money. I pretty much don't care for his reasonings behind this, although they could help getting some sort of "understanding" for his behaviour. But well, getting 62k US-$ for actually not even LOSING the matches? Such an easy way of getting a ton of money, even without ruining your tournament run? That's really tempting. This doesn't actually NEED a proper reasoning such as gambling, that whole opportunity is just way to easy.
stargunner
Profile Joined July 2014
United States135 Posts
April 21 2016 11:37 GMT
#90
what a great year for sc2
fronkschnonk
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany622 Posts
April 21 2016 11:37 GMT
#91
I don't really get why everybody is so lenient on Bbyong while condemning Life. Ok, he turned himself in but that looks like a move of damage limitation to me. Perhaps he knew about the connections to Life's case and that he would get caught eventually.
Assuming him being remorseful is just a wild guess (just like mine ^^).
Furthermore, I consider that some kind of Code A must be reestablished.
Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 11:41:24
April 21 2016 11:38 GMT
#92
Bbyong turned himself in...
I wonder if he matchfixed under a threat.

edit: fronkschnonk, lol it sounds like i am replying to you, so to be clear, im not saying its less worse in Bbyong's case, though it could be.
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 21 2016 11:40 GMT
#93
On April 21 2016 20:35 Fetti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 20:28 Ej_ wrote:
On April 21 2016 20:26 SinO[Ob] wrote:
I still dont get why Life MF. I mean 30k$ is huge but Life had won so much already and could have win way more by simply playing.... I'd really like to know, why?

Its rumoured that he had gambling problems


The sad thruth is, the only thing better than "having money" is, well, having more money. I pretty much don't care for his reasonings behind this, although they could help getting some sort of "understanding" for his behaviour. But well, getting 62k US-$ for actually not even LOSING the matches? Such an easy way of getting a ton of money, even without ruining your tournament run? That's really tempting. This doesn't actually NEED a proper reasoning such as gambling, that whole opportunity is just way to easy.

Using "dirty" money is a problem. You cannot use them easily because it attracts an attention of bureaus and you can be easily investigated. My mom works in prison and I've heard several stories about people who thought that having more money in shady way is actually easy and you can use them without any problems
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
SinO[Ob]
Profile Joined October 2010
France898 Posts
April 21 2016 11:42 GMT
#94
On April 21 2016 20:35 Fetti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 20:28 Ej_ wrote:
On April 21 2016 20:26 SinO[Ob] wrote:
I still dont get why Life MF. I mean 30k$ is huge but Life had won so much already and could have win way more by simply playing.... I'd really like to know, why?

Its rumoured that he had gambling problems


The sad thruth is, the only thing better than "having money" is, well, having more money. I pretty much don't care for his reasonings behind this, although they could help getting some sort of "understanding" for his behaviour. But well, getting 62k US-$ for actually not even LOSING the matches? Such an easy way of getting a ton of money, even without ruining your tournament run? That's really tempting. This doesn't actually NEED a proper reasoning such as gambling, that whole opportunity is just way to easy.


Yep, I guess you're right. God I would love to slap Life just once... When players aren't succesfull I can get why MF can be a solution (Prime). But here, meh, this is just disappointing. At least I'm glad that no player is safe from an investigation. Even if its a big name. Here's my ray of hope.
Stephano and Clem enjoyer
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 21 2016 11:45 GMT
#95
On April 21 2016 20:42 SinO[Ob] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 20:35 Fetti wrote:
On April 21 2016 20:28 Ej_ wrote:
On April 21 2016 20:26 SinO[Ob] wrote:
I still dont get why Life MF. I mean 30k$ is huge but Life had won so much already and could have win way more by simply playing.... I'd really like to know, why?

Its rumoured that he had gambling problems


The sad thruth is, the only thing better than "having money" is, well, having more money. I pretty much don't care for his reasonings behind this, although they could help getting some sort of "understanding" for his behaviour. But well, getting 62k US-$ for actually not even LOSING the matches? Such an easy way of getting a ton of money, even without ruining your tournament run? That's really tempting. This doesn't actually NEED a proper reasoning such as gambling, that whole opportunity is just way to easy.


Yep, I guess you're right. God I would love to slap Life just once... When players aren't succesfull I can get why MF can be a solution (Prime). But here, meh, this is just disappointing. At least I'm glad that no player is safe from an investigation. Even if its a big name. Here's my ray of hope.

In the case of Prime - they were practically slaves. It§s not that they were not successful, the MF of Prime uncovered a lot of dirt on the team and Gerrard.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
April 21 2016 11:45 GMT
#96
On April 21 2016 20:13 Krymming wrote:
For all we know Life might actually be trash at the game and his whole career a long match-fixing streak...
Jokes aside though, dont you think its kinda hilarious that its only zerg and terran players that match fix? Now Life and bbong.
Earlier:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Match_Fixing_Scandal
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_Match-Fixing_Scandal


With this evidence the only way to be 100% stasticially sure to stop match-fixing is to ban zerg and terran from tournaments


Protoss can play dirty in game
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
April 21 2016 11:45 GMT
#97
On April 21 2016 20:29 WidowMineHero wrote:
So this is why bbyong wasn't on the CJ line up. surprised no one spoke much about bbyong before this.

Well TL mods tend to be quite sensitive for speculations..
Like you get banned for mentioning MKP in a thread like this.... To even dare speak avout BByong, no way. We shall not discuss these things
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50754 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 11:48:31
April 21 2016 11:48 GMT
#98
On April 21 2016 20:45 Glorfindel! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 20:29 WidowMineHero wrote:
So this is why bbyong wasn't on the CJ line up. surprised no one spoke much about bbyong before this.

Well TL mods tend to be quite sensitive for speculations..
Like you get banned for mentioning MKP in a thread like this.... To even dare speak avout BByong, no way. We shall not discuss these things


bbyong is convicted, MKP is not even related to this, you're safe.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Fetti
Profile Joined April 2016
6 Posts
April 21 2016 11:48 GMT
#99
On April 21 2016 20:40 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 20:35 Fetti wrote:
On April 21 2016 20:28 Ej_ wrote:
On April 21 2016 20:26 SinO[Ob] wrote:
I still dont get why Life MF. I mean 30k$ is huge but Life had won so much already and could have win way more by simply playing.... I'd really like to know, why?

Its rumoured that he had gambling problems


The sad thruth is, the only thing better than "having money" is, well, having more money. I pretty much don't care for his reasonings behind this, although they could help getting some sort of "understanding" for his behaviour. But well, getting 62k US-$ for actually not even LOSING the matches? Such an easy way of getting a ton of money, even without ruining your tournament run? That's really tempting. This doesn't actually NEED a proper reasoning such as gambling, that whole opportunity is just way to easy.

Using "dirty" money is a problem. You cannot use them easily because it attracts an attention of bureaus and you can be easily investigated. My mom works in prison and I've heard several stories about people who thought that having more money in shady way is actually easy and you can use them without any problems


Yeah, that's actually a good point. On the other hand, life is 19 years old, who knows what amount of "Common sense" he accumulated. Yeah, he has had a pro-gaming career any SC2-pro can only dream of, but what else? His career would come to an end, one way or another, and he HAD to think of what's coming after this. So there is this opportunity, getting that huge chunk of money, with a very little chance of anyone noticing, since he didn't even generate an upset. He lost 2 maps, get's a really nice payout, and continues his way to the very top of SC2. All reasoning aside, how is this not oh so tempting for a 19 year old guy, that may not even know how his life is going to be AFTER his Pro-Gaming time?
polpot
Profile Joined April 2012
3002 Posts
April 21 2016 11:54 GMT
#100
So so sad to see an iconic player like Life going like this.
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