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Prosecutor's Report: Life & Bbyong match-fixing - Page 2

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fealx
Profile Joined September 2014
Germany376 Posts
April 21 2016 10:03 GMT
#21
Life and Bbyong were just peasants in this game. Catching all the brokers and financial backers is a good start but they need to catch the king in this game of chess to stop match-fixing.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46104 Posts
April 21 2016 10:04 GMT
#22
Awful news Thanks for letting us know though <3
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
April 21 2016 10:06 GMT
#23
No sentences revealed yet then?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 21 2016 10:07 GMT
#24
On April 21 2016 19:02 Tanzklaue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 18:57 deacon.frost wrote:
On April 21 2016 18:52 Tanzklaue wrote:
seriously though, how stupid does one have to be to basically fall for the argument "everyone is jumping from the cliff, you should too"?

like even if it were true that everyone fixes matches, Life, why would you fix matches with your massive winnings, popularity and talent? seems like he only was a natural genius ingame, because that decisionmaking cost him his current and possibly future careers in both gaming and other fields.

It looks like he had problems with gambling. Which isn't an excuse for his deeds. But it shows that KeSPA doesn't care. Teams don't care. Which is kinda sad. A gambling person who will stay crystal clear when you have these shady persons around, sure, yeah.

wouldn't it say so in the case report though?

i dunno how much truth is to that whole gambling thing, he did gamble yea, but enough to throw away almost 500k dollar? i dunno man.

Why? This has nothing to do with the fact that he match fixed. Why he did that is Life's defense and prosecutor doesn't care. The same way there's not written why Bbyong turned himself in.

I write it again, betting person is a problem for the system(if what MC stated is true, he was able to lose 20k USD in one night). "Oh, look, you lost $ 20k. How about we say you didn't lose anything and when we need a favor, you help us? The time may not come, just remember, you owe us a favor"... where have I heard similar things, hmmm
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
I wasbanned fromthis
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
113 Posts
April 21 2016 10:08 GMT
#25
On April 21 2016 18:52 Tanzklaue wrote:
seriously though, how stupid does one have to be to basically fall for the argument "everyone is jumping from the cliff, you should too"?

like even if it were true that everyone fixes matches, Life, why would you fix matches with your massive winnings, popularity and talent? seems like he only was a natural genius ingame, because that decisionmaking cost him his current and possibly future careers in both gaming and other fields.



ROFL a german says this. LOL
the ignorance.

(history books, section: Hitler)

User was temp banned for this post.
killerm12
Profile Joined November 2014
Slovakia601 Posts
April 21 2016 10:09 GMT
#26
As it was pointed out already, one good thing from it is that they did catch not only players, but people behind scenes as well.
Also explains why we haven't seen Bbyong play this year and it's not cause he has medical problems.
Sad, I liked the guy.
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Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
April 21 2016 10:11 GMT
#27
Thank you wax for the translation and structured post, appreciate it. Even if it is sad news, especially about Bbyong, still respect the guy for giving himself up, that takes a lot of balls for sure. Shows that the other teams probably have good values too. Love for Bbyong and ffs Life gtfo
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shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
April 21 2016 10:12 GMT
#28
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
kagamin
Profile Joined September 2010
United States191 Posts
April 21 2016 10:13 GMT
#29
This makes me so sad.
Without Life, Starcraft is dead to me.
NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
April 21 2016 10:14 GMT
#30
I'm angry at Life and sad for Bbyong, is this the first time a match-fixer self-confess?
I didn't know Bbyong well, but this is quite sad, he was really a pillar player for CJ, and he was friendly towards his fan. Too bad his friendliness was taken advantage of
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
ZertoN
Profile Joined February 2014
Germany214 Posts
April 21 2016 10:17 GMT
#31
on the one hand im glad that life is arrested now and got what he deserved for fixing matches


on the other hand, bbyong will be gone
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 21 2016 10:18 GMT
#32
What a sad ending to Life
And Bbyong why you do this, i always thought he had some nice strats to break out.

Oh well
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Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
April 21 2016 10:21 GMT
#33
On April 21 2016 19:01 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 18:59 todespolka wrote:
I can remember the game between dream and life. But dream was really good, he made multiple widow mine drops, where life lost a lot of his workers. It was not a suspicious game. It looked like dream was just faster at multitasking, but now we know that life just threw the game intentionally.

The sums are incredible. 30000 dollar for just one match. How can you say no to that.


I think it was the game where Life lost 3 drones vs 1 reaper and then 4 more and a queen vs 3 reapers. Something that would never happen to a zerg on that level. Moonglade was really confused about what was happening while casting.


Just watched it. Hahaa, it's like after his Terminator throw they told him he should make it a little less obvious next time. His throw vs. Dream was a lot more natural.
xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 10:26:11
April 21 2016 10:22 GMT
#34
This makes zero sense.

I appreciate and respect the extremely precise chain of events uncovered by the long investigation, but why, why, why the fuck would he risk hid entire career and skill potential for FUTURE winnings, given his total earnings? Surely he thought at one point, "i can make this money anyway in x months without accepting this", the amounts are too small for a player like Life. I can imagine he was told he would get a lot more to lure him into it, but upon completion he got a much smaller transfer.
Life - forever the Legend in my heart
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
April 21 2016 10:22 GMT
#35
Youngsters, sigh.
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
April 21 2016 10:23 GMT
#36
While I made peace with Life being gone for a long time now, I'm quite sad about Bbyong, he was so good.
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Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
April 21 2016 10:24 GMT
#37
On April 21 2016 19:22 xtorn wrote:
This makes zero sense.

I appreciate and respect the extremely precise chain of events uncovered by the long investigation, but why, why, why the fuck would he risk hid entire career and FUTURE winnings, given his total earnings? Surely he thought at one point, "i can make this money anyway in x months without accepting this", the amounts are too small for a player like Life. I can imagine he was told he would get a lot more to lure him into it, but upon completion he got a much smaller transfer.


Well, if you consider the gambling rumors to be true, he probably needed the money.
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
April 21 2016 10:24 GMT
#38
$62,000 is a crazy amount. Is this the biggest match-fixing money for one individual yet?
Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
April 21 2016 10:26 GMT
#39
Well then. Glad we got this out of the way finally.

Sad that Bbyong is involved. I can see how it happens for players like him, and Yoda, who are so close to the top, but never quite manage to get there. All that money must be tempting. That's the level where a lot of matchfixing in physical sports happens too.

Life though. What an asshole. He had everything a pro-gamer could wish for and he threw it all away.
Zephyp
Profile Joined April 2013
238 Posts
April 21 2016 10:27 GMT
#40
Are there VODs of the games online? Not that one might be able to see anything, but still.
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