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Prosecutor's Report: Life & Bbyong match-fixing - Page 4

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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
April 21 2016 11:02 GMT
#61
If people are as morbidly curious as me:

Life vs Dream
Life vs Terminator #1
Life vs Terminator #2
(It's not clear which one they're referring to)
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 21 2016 11:03 GMT
#62
On April 21 2016 19:51 looken wrote:
What really scares me is that if these numbers are true, if 30'000 $ are offered to simply throw ONE single match, i figure there is a whole lot of match fixing going on and to believe that this was an isolated incident seems kind of naive. I am afraid this was just the tip of the ice berg.

Always been like this, they only catch the ones that arent careful enough not to get caught
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
dankobanana
Profile Joined February 2016
Croatia243 Posts
April 21 2016 11:05 GMT
#63
On April 21 2016 19:51 looken wrote:
What really scares me is that if these numbers are true, if 30'000 $ are offered to simply throw ONE single match, i figure there is a whole lot of match fixing going on and to believe that this was an isolated incident seems kind of naive. I am afraid this was just the tip of the ice berg.


this reminds me of tennis. usually, if you are not in the top 50, you dont earn nearly enough but its very easy to fix a match and much much more profitable then placing "high" in some random challenger tournament. And its really easy to fix a match in tennis.
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trada
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany347 Posts
April 21 2016 11:05 GMT
#64
I wonder if the drop in viewers for SC2 overall can partially be attributed to the matchfixing scandal(s).

Its sad either way
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 21 2016 11:07 GMT
#65
On April 21 2016 20:05 trada wrote:
I wonder if the drop in viewers for SC2 overall can partially be attributed to the matchfixing scandal(s).

Its sad either way

Nah, the biggest drop occurred when no MF was known.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 13:21:55
April 21 2016 11:08 GMT
#66
Now every time we see a pro player do some stupid tactic that has him lose the game we can never be sure if he was matchfixing or not
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19305 Posts
April 21 2016 11:09 GMT
#67
This definitely makes me sick to my stomach to read. Anyone else who was around during the fall of Savior is probably feeling the weight of that event come back. This is absolutely terrible.
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
April 21 2016 11:09 GMT
#68
On April 21 2016 20:08 -Archangel- wrote:
Now every time we see a pro player do some stupid tactic that has his lose the game we can never be sure if he was matchfixing or not

This is a big problem. I already have trouble watching weird throws in SPL after the Prime stuff. Now it seems every league is not safe. Fucking kills the passion man.
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JokerAi
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany142 Posts
April 21 2016 11:10 GMT
#69
Sorry but this is life´s own fail. This is cheating and i hope he lrean from it. He was my favorite zerg but i´m not a fan anymore after this. I hope he dont can come back. This needs a lifetime ban because he do this twice. He know waht he is doing and this not justifiable.
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KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
April 21 2016 11:11 GMT
#70
On April 21 2016 19:24 Popkiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 19:22 xtorn wrote:
This makes zero sense.

I appreciate and respect the extremely precise chain of events uncovered by the long investigation, but why, why, why the fuck would he risk hid entire career and FUTURE winnings, given his total earnings? Surely he thought at one point, "i can make this money anyway in x months without accepting this", the amounts are too small for a player like Life. I can imagine he was told he would get a lot more to lure him into it, but upon completion he got a much smaller transfer.


Well, if you consider the gambling rumors to be true, he probably needed the money.

That is just about the only way this makes sense. Someone probably had dirt on him over it. It makes me less sympathies if true, as it ends up being something he brought upon himself.
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Krymming
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden38 Posts
April 21 2016 11:13 GMT
#71
For all we know Life might actually be trash at the game and his whole career a long match-fixing streak...
Jokes aside though, dont you think its kinda hilarious that its only zerg and terran players that match fix? Now Life and bbong.
Earlier:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Match_Fixing_Scandal
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_Match-Fixing_Scandal


With this evidence the only way to be 100% stasticially sure to stop match-fixing is to ban zerg and terran from tournaments
No excuses, play like a champion
Kab00om
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany10 Posts
April 21 2016 11:14 GMT
#72
Thanks for the report/writeup. Really(!!!) f*ing sad to see this! :/ I still can't really believe it!
Alluton
Profile Joined February 2015
Finland113 Posts
April 21 2016 11:15 GMT
#73
On April 21 2016 20:13 Krymming wrote:
For all we know Life might actually be trash at the game and his whole career a long match-fixing streak...
Jokes aside though, dont you think its kinda hilarious that its only zerg and terran players that match fix? Now Life and bbong.
Earlier:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Match_Fixing_Scandal
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_Match-Fixing_Scandal


With this evidence the only way to be 100% stasticially sure to stop match-fixing is to ban zerg and terran from tournaments


Simple:

Mugen93
Profile Joined May 2015
16 Posts
April 21 2016 11:16 GMT
#74
On April 21 2016 19:03 fealx wrote:
Life and Bbyong were just peasants in this game. Catching all the brokers and financial backers is a good start but they need to catch the king in this game of chess to stop match-fixing.

Sorry but the king of this game cannot be catched cause is Money. When money are involved this things will happen for sure, they can only put severe control to limit this as much as possible and try to educate well these boys.
ASeriousMan
Profile Joined May 2015
5 Posts
April 21 2016 11:17 GMT
#75
On April 21 2016 19:43 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 18:56 Inflicted wrote:
I feel sorry for DRGLing, his first competitive win was a fixed match

Holy fuck thats the worst part...


I just rewatched the series and it seems pretty legit overall. The more I think of it the more i believe that Bbyong had planned to lose the second game on purpose, while winning 1 and 3 but he lost the first one in a standard, back and forth macrogame in which it looks like he really wanted the win. If this is right in the end his matchfixing plan didn't even impact the series !
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
April 21 2016 11:22 GMT
#76
On April 21 2016 20:05 trada wrote:
I wonder if the drop in viewers for SC2 overall can partially be attributed to the matchfixing scandal(s).

Its sad either way

It's WCS for me.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 21 2016 11:23 GMT
#77
On April 21 2016 20:16 Mugen93 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 19:03 fealx wrote:
Life and Bbyong were just peasants in this game. Catching all the brokers and financial backers is a good start but they need to catch the king in this game of chess to stop match-fixing.

Sorry but the king of this game cannot be catched cause is Money. When money are involved this things will happen for sure, they can only put severe control to limit this as much as possible and try to educate well these boys.

KeSPA needs to start caring about players. Right now they care only when something like this happens which is wrong.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
April 21 2016 11:24 GMT
#78
good riddance
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
SinO[Ob]
Profile Joined October 2010
France897 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 11:26:21
April 21 2016 11:26 GMT
#79
I still dont get why Life MF. I mean 30k$ is huge but Life had won so much already and could have win way more by simply playing.... I'd really like to know, why?
Stephano and Clem enjoyer
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 11:27:36
April 21 2016 11:26 GMT
#80
On April 21 2016 20:15 Alluton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 20:13 Krymming wrote:
For all we know Life might actually be trash at the game and his whole career a long match-fixing streak...
Jokes aside though, dont you think its kinda hilarious that its only zerg and terran players that match fix? Now Life and bbong.
Earlier:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Match_Fixing_Scandal
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_Match-Fixing_Scandal


With this evidence the only way to be 100% stasticially sure to stop match-fixing is to ban zerg and terran from tournaments


Simple: https://twitter.com/seedzzing/status/656061297256108034


Seed proving he is secretly the greatest person in Starcraft
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