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Prosecutor's Report: Life & Bbyong match-fixing - Page 6

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chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2606 Posts
April 21 2016 11:54 GMT
#101
And people are saying that iBP life-time ban from CSGO was harsh, lol.

This is the only real way to deal with match-fixing. It is a criminal act and should be treated as such.
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Kaizor
Profile Joined May 2015
Singapore909 Posts
April 21 2016 11:55 GMT
#102
What i want to know if THIS is definitive enough for the TL writers to consider their position on the TL awards.

Or do we have wait for the judge to actually sentence Life?

And are we going to hear more arguments like but his match-fixing did not take away his championship performances.
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Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
April 21 2016 11:55 GMT
#103
Life ruined his entire life for 62k dollars. What an idiot. Damnatio memoriae... this is what he deserves.
Well, at least the forces of good won at the end.
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
April 21 2016 11:56 GMT
#104
To everyone talking about protoss not matchfixing, obviously protoss are likely to matchfix the most. Thats why all the terrans and zergs wants a piece of the cake. The difference is that unlike zergs and terrans protoss are good enough at decision making and strategic thinking to pull it off. Thats why they never get caught xD

Seed, Khala my ass you strategic genius

(obviously no accusation just joking around)
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Poopfeast 024
Profile Joined November 2014
Gambia437 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 11:57:24
April 21 2016 11:56 GMT
#105
Holy hell... the news about Bbyong makes me even sadder than the ones about Life.

Bbyong was my mech master, the korean Avilo but with actual top notch mechanics and gamesense. And he was such a chill, nice guy. Damn

Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
April 21 2016 11:58 GMT
#106
On April 21 2016 20:26 SinO[Ob] wrote:
I still dont get why Life MF. I mean 30k$ is huge but Life had won so much already and could have win way more by simply playing.... I'd really like to know, why?


Winner from Kespa cup gets ₩ 10,000,000 Life matchfixed 2 maps and gets ₩ 70,000,000 thats pretty easy mathematics. Life is good but not that good he can just look at tournament "Nice extra pocket money ez 1st place"
He also had some kind of problem with gambling when he was competing outside Korea he probably wasn't that rich even though he won a lot from tournaments.

Sad but expected. I wonder if Life/Bbyong will release some apology or something I would like to hear their thoughts about this.
Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
April 21 2016 12:00 GMT
#107
On April 21 2016 20:56 Shuffleblade wrote:
To everyone talking about protoss not matchfixing, obviously protoss are likely to matchfix the most. Thats why all the terrans and zergs wants a piece of the cake. The difference is that unlike zergs and terrans protoss are good enough at decision making and strategic thinking to pull it off. Thats why they never get caught xD

Seed, Khala my ass you strategic genius

(obviously no accusation just joking around)


Protoss don't need wealthy they can throw for just sake of throwing like Lilbow end of hots ":D"
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 12:02:39
April 21 2016 12:02 GMT
#108
Seeing those huge payouts for fixing only one game really puts the low salaries and earnings of most Korean SC2 players into perspective. I mean I legit thought what they won for fixing a single game was, like $1,000 or slightly higher. Seeing this I really doubt only PRIME + those two are guilty, I think shit will unfold slowly over time.

As for Life, sad to see him do that, though I guess that's what talented kids do. As for Bbyong, even sadder to see him do that, though I guess (hope for him, at least) that if he turned himself in he had negociated a lesser sentence before (if that's possible in Korea).

Do we know when will sentences be made?

edit : also, does anyone has links to the incriminated games?
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 12:06:28
April 21 2016 12:04 GMT
#109
I personally don't want to hear from either player.

I want the Korean scene to be strong, have lots of events, lots of strong players and strong teams (like SKT and Jinair) who compete to the best of their ability in cool events like GSL, SSL, Proleague and KeSPA Cups.

Between Blizzard stifling Koreans by preventing them from competing in international and open events, as well as some Koreans match-fixing because of easy money, the outlook for Korean players is just a little bleak right now.

What are sponsors even thinking right now? What are fans and viewers thinking? What are other professionals thinking?

It's just a disgusting situation all around.


On April 21 2016 20:02 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
If people are as morbidly curious as me:

Life vs Dream
Life vs Terminator #1
Life vs Terminator #2
(It's not clear which one they're referring to)


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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 21 2016 12:06 GMT
#110
On April 21 2016 18:59 todespolka wrote:
I can remember the game between dream and life. But dream was really good, he made multiple widow mine drops, where life lost a lot of his workers. It was not a suspicious game. It looked like dream was just faster at multitasking, but now we know that life just threw the game intentionally.

The sums are incredible. 30000 dollar for just one match. How can you say no to that.

well, if Dream just simply outplays Life it just makes it easier for the latter to lose without it being suspicious. that doesn't mean nobody paid him to lose on purpose "in case he would otherwise win".

glad they have been caught, sad that it's been happening. i'm surprised they were (apparently) dumb enough to wire the money through banks rather than handing them cash but hey, good for the justice system.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
April 21 2016 12:08 GMT
#111
Bbyong? That's pretty sad TT
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rikapi
Profile Joined January 2014
United States63 Posts
April 21 2016 12:09 GMT
#112
I'm just glad Bbyong decided to turn himself into the police instead of something more drastic like suicide (or an attempt thereof) once the guilt of what he had done set in.

Still, sad times. :/
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28474 Posts
April 21 2016 12:12 GMT
#113
30k for throwing matches, or maps even. This is not going to stop.

:/
I Protoss winner, could it be?
plasma4
Profile Joined March 2016
123 Posts
April 21 2016 12:13 GMT
#114
If he did that CJ what would be even more devastated then they already are. history of players matchfixing in their team. poor CJ.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 21 2016 12:15 GMT
#115
I came to terms with Life being guilty a long time ago. But Bbyong being guilty ruins my day.
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Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
April 21 2016 12:19 GMT
#116
Ahw, both of them were so fun to watch... this is pretty sad T_T
plasma4
Profile Joined March 2016
123 Posts
April 21 2016 12:20 GMT
#117
I wonder how the players in CJ Entus feel having bbyong match fix like this
nighcol
Profile Joined January 2012
298 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 12:23:16
April 21 2016 12:21 GMT
#118
On April 21 2016 20:58 Darrkhan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 20:26 SinO[Ob] wrote:
I still dont get why Life MF. I mean 30k$ is huge but Life had won so much already and could have win way more by simply playing.... I'd really like to know, why?


Winner from Kespa cup gets ₩ 10,000,000 Life matchfixed 2 maps and gets ₩ 70,000,000 thats pretty easy mathematics. Life is good but not that good he can just look at tournament "Nice extra pocket money ez 1st place"
He also had some kind of problem with gambling when he was competing outside Korea he probably wasn't that rich even though he won a lot from tournaments.

Sad but expected. I wonder if Life/Bbyong will release some apology or something I would like to hear their thoughts about this.


Well, it's not entirely unlike drug dealing where the rewards are also dramatically more than honest work. You can get a big payout but you also have quite a bit more risk. You're not going to get prosecuted for winning a KeSPA cup.
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5585 Posts
April 21 2016 12:21 GMT
#119
Wow, what a rotten day.

Protoss still clean though, woo!
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[16thSq] Kuro
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1213 Posts
April 21 2016 12:23 GMT
#120
On April 21 2016 20:37 fronkschnonk wrote:
I don't really get why everybody is so lenient on Bbyong while condemning Life. Ok, he turned himself in but that looks like a move of damage limitation to me. Perhaps he knew about the connections to Life's case and that he would get caught eventually.
Assuming him being remorseful is just a wild guess (just like mine ^^).

I think it's mostly because everybody who has met him describes him as a nice guy and so he seemed during broadcasts as well. The excitement we could see in his games makes it less believable that he did it for greed and makes many people think about possible circumstances that made him do it. But yes, those are all just guesses as you said, and we will probably never know the whole truth. Too bad.
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