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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4243 Posts
March 22 2016 00:36 GMT
#61
Really awesome write up of framing that narrative in the frame of its important history.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51698 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-22 01:37:22
March 22 2016 01:34 GMT
#62
wait what the hell am i talking about here
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
March 22 2016 01:45 GMT
#63
domination is the antithesis of sport
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sa1Ko
Profile Joined July 2015
Argentina99 Posts
March 22 2016 02:25 GMT
#64
only The Expert could have done it, great writing ! Flash deserved it
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
March 22 2016 02:30 GMT
#65
Blackouts > Flash.
EmKey
Profile Joined December 2002
Korea (South)631 Posts
March 22 2016 04:16 GMT
#66
Great read. I had nerd chills while reading this article.
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Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
March 22 2016 04:35 GMT
#67
Great article. Flash is amazing.
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SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
March 22 2016 06:55 GMT
#68
Great article. Flash was peerless in his prime.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
March 22 2016 07:36 GMT
#69
Awesome read Lots of Nostalgia, even though I didn't really follow SC1 for the later parts of Flash's career.
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letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
March 22 2016 07:50 GMT
#70
So it was, the good old times of the MSL, OSL finals.
When my heart was pounding so hard I could hear it.
I was glued to the screen like a hypnotized monkey.

Thank you Wax
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-22 08:23:34
March 22 2016 08:19 GMT
#71
On March 22 2016 02:17 BisuDagger wrote:
Bisu still holds the record for most wins in a season. And his accomplishments as a protoss player far exceed any accomplishment by any player of any other race. Just saying, did you see any other protoss player mentioned?

edit: just in case you nick pick, Stork was mentioned once (once!).

I think it was done to reduce the amount of reading.
Bisu was and is a controversial player, inconsistent and brilliant and lucky all at the same time.

I think Stork was a more consistent underachiever if you ask and also Stork is the only toss who holds the best win/lose record against the greatest: 13:14 against Flash, 14:13 against Jaedong, 5:3 record against Bisu himself.

And if you really ask for who I would consider the best toss, it would be and should be Jangbi.
Jangbi 8:4 Bisu, Jangbi 5:0 Stork, Jangbi 5:6 Flash, well with Jaedong 1:11 but PvZ was always his weakest matchup while Bisu excelled in PvZ.
Jangbi, who was something of an enigma. Being on a most horrible loss streak of 14 matches and then slowly recovering into being the last legend of the fall, OSL champion over dominating everyone and everything Flash, in a nail baiting series.
Would Bisu win over Flash after such a slump, would he even recover? I say never. He can take one two games of Flash, like he did in PL due to preparation and SKT steel back support, he simply does not have the guts, never had, that is why his only championship is against Savior and hadn't it been Savior but some other zerg like YellOw[ArnC] he would never be considered the top dragon but rather a decent toss with great PL record. Bisu is the Sea of tosses.
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19141 Posts
March 22 2016 09:09 GMT
#72
Great read thanks!
ModeratorFor remember, that in the end, some are born to live, others born to die. I belong to those last, born to burn, born to cry. For I shall remain alone... forsaken.
Mekare
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany393 Posts
March 22 2016 09:29 GMT
#73
Awesome read, thanks so much Wax! ^^
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
March 22 2016 10:53 GMT
#74
On March 22 2016 17:19 letian wrote:
[...] that is why his only championship is against Savior and hadn't it been Savior but some other zerg like YellOw[ArnC] he would never be considered the top dragon but rather a decent toss with great PL record. Bisu is the Sea of tosses.


uh what? You know Bisu won 3 MSL's and made another final, right? He just didn't got shit done in OSL.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-22 16:19:27
March 22 2016 14:36 GMT
#75
On March 22 2016 19:53 Keniji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 17:19 letian wrote:
[...] that is why his only championship is against Savior and hadn't it been Savior but some other zerg like YellOw[ArnC] he would never be considered the top dragon but rather a decent toss with great PL record. Bisu is the Sea of tosses.


uh what? You know Bisu won 3 MSL's and made another final, right? He just didn't got shit done in OSL.

yeah, and wcg korea 2009 and after that nothing, NOTHING.
Come on, it's a fact, Bisu never delivered when it mattered except for PL, hence my rant about him being a toss of all times who didn't live up to his promises.

That, of course, does not mean he was lacking in the fanbase division, quite on the contrary, and this is what actually makes me irritated: the bonjwa aura ppl keep constructing for this player. Not living up to his level and constantly, constantly losing when it mattered most. And, hey, nothing changed, he lost to Effort in the last finals with a 3:1, when everybody considered him favourite. Pathology.

Anyway, I like Bisu and his playstyle, I just don't like exaggerations and he is one of those overpraised players.
Rhaeide
Profile Joined November 2008
Spain304 Posts
March 22 2016 15:10 GMT
#76
Great read!.
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DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
March 22 2016 15:32 GMT
#77
Our God is retired, long live God!
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Orr
Profile Joined February 2014
United States168 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-23 01:50:50
March 23 2016 01:42 GMT
#78
Amazing article Wax. Your endnotes are a thing of beauty. I started playing BW for fun early on, and once I found out about the top Korean professional scene, began to watch PL and the OSL/MSL regularly. Never knew about TL until a few years ago, so never had any quality resource to examine the actual statistical achievements and data.

Have only seen limited VODS of the greats before the golden era of BW. And the early pioneers deserve immense credit for creating the metas and play-styles for future generations from scratch. But their level of play/competition was so much lower than when the game really matured w/ the rise of Flash, Jaedong, Bisu, Fantasy, Jangbi, Stork, etc. Which is why I don't like to compare (equally) Starleague titles from the early-mid 2000s, since the challenges faced by Flash and Jaedong were so much tougher.

Flash is so far and away the GOAT, it's not even worth discussing. Carried (literally the KT strategy for years was to have Flash win his initial match, and then try scrap together the remaining 1-2 wins necessary to force an ace match, where Flash was the only option bar none), a largely average KT squad year after year in PL to victory against more talented teams. Being able to thoroughly dominate PL, while excelling in OSL/MSL simultaneously, during the mature stages of a game where the quality and quantity of talent has never been higher, is the greatest sports achievement I've ever witnessed.

Flash could have easily rested on his laurels and gone out on top when KESPA transitioned to SC2. His body physically was clearly in trouble and his mental exhaustion must have been unimaginable. But he's a champion in the truest sense, and needed to know how he would fare in the unknown.

Watching the live stream of him finally winning that elusive individual title at IEM Toronto was so satisfying. But my favorite SC2 memory of him by far (staying up till an ungodly hour as I always do to watch PL GF) was crushing a heavily favored, and on fire Parting (w/ the greatest PvT of all-time) in the pivotal and ultra-hyped G2 of the 2014 Proleague Grand Finals. He truly channeled his BW form for that one game. Kicking the soccer ball far into the crowd in celebration, and later holding the trophy high aloft with his teammates behind paying respect to their great leader, while the legions in attendance chanted his name, and his mother and father were crying on camera. Watching that was absolutely magical.
Flash I Jaedong I herO I Best I Maru I Rogue
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1717 Posts
March 23 2016 02:21 GMT
#79
I'm proud to say I was there to witness Flash's career firsthand. I stuck with this kid even diring his slump and his haters were partying. I watched him win his second title, which in my opinion was his most emotional one. After that was four more titles. From cheesy bastard, to ultimate weapon, to one hit wonder (during his slump), to god. What a great career.
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
March 23 2016 09:00 GMT
#80
His year making every finals, often playing two in the same week, was utterly ridiculous. Barring that implosion vs effort he might've even gone 5-1 + the proleague title. Thanks for the read. He was the GOAT.
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