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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19294 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-21 17:18:09
March 21 2016 17:17 GMT
#21
Bisu still holds the record for most wins in a season. And his accomplishments as a protoss player far exceed any accomplishment by any player of any other race. Just saying, did you see any other protoss player mentioned?

edit: just in case you nick pick, Stork was mentioned once (once!).
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Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2216 Posts
March 21 2016 17:18 GMT
#22
Interesting, thanks.
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nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3751 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-21 17:26:54
March 21 2016 17:26 GMT
#23

The road to Brood War greatness went through four legends: BoxeR, NaDa, iloveoov, and sAviOr.9 Three-time champion BoxeR was included for his status as the original Brood War superstar, with his immense popularity being the catalyst behind the modern esports revolution that started in Korea.

As for the other three, they were revered for their sheer dominance and overwhelming weight of accomplishments. Of all the progamers to have ever played, they were the only ones to have won four or more major championships.

Strictly speaking - incorrect. By the time Flash started his miracle run at the start of 2009, Jaedong already had 4 golds and golden mouse. He also had 5th gold merely week after Flash's 2nd gold.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3751 Posts
March 21 2016 17:31 GMT
#24
On March 22 2016 02:17 BisuDagger wrote:
Bisu still holds the record for most wins in a season. And his accomplishments as a protoss player far exceed any accomplishment by any player of any other race. Just saying, did you see any other protoss player mentioned?

edit: just in case you nick pick, Stork was mentioned once (once!).

There are 3 protosses with 2 golds so not so far from Bisu: GARIMTO who - in retrospect - denied Boxer Golden Mouse, completely irrelevant to the story. Then Nal_Ra who was strong enough to justify saying that sAviOr's ZvP wasn't just statistics but actual quality. And JangBi who dominated Brood War when Flash perhaps didn't care anymore.

Also Stork was also mentioned but he really was a Bomber of the era.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10226 Posts
March 21 2016 17:36 GMT
#25
As obviously FlaSh's biggest fan, I'd like to say thank you for such a well written article about him. It's hard to believe everything he's accomplished in such a short (and I say short because he went on that incredible run in a span of 12 months) time period, but you managed to put it into words how dominant he was.

One thing I'd like to mention, it would have been nice to tell everyone how HARD WORKING FlaSh was and put a lot of emphasis on it. No doubt, every progamer is an extremely hard working player, but I'd put FlaSh in the lights of someone like Kobe Bryant, no real gifted abilities, just straight hard work and determination. Think about how hard he worked to bring himself out of that hole where most players would have been forgotten, but he climbed the steep slopes and clawed he way harder and faster than his peers on his way to the top.

Beautiful article, thanks again.
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looknohands119
Profile Joined March 2010
United States815 Posts
March 21 2016 17:37 GMT
#26
Wax, this was fuckin' awesome. :D
"The kingdom of the heavens is buried treasure. Would you sell yourself to buy the one you've found?" - Jon Foreman ('Your Love Is Strong' - Spring EP)
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3751 Posts
March 21 2016 17:42 GMT
#27
Another thing - Jaedong also had Triple Crown.

He led Hwaesung Oz to Proleague championship 2008-01-27 or 2008-02-16. This lasted until next champion was crowned so until October.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/2007_Shinhan_Bank_Proleague_Round_2 and http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/2007_Shinhan_Proleague_Grand_Final
Then Jaedong won 2007 EVER OSL on 2007-12-22. Next champion was crowned on 15th March 2008
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/EVER2007_OSL
Finally Jaedong won MSL on 8th March
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/2008_GOMTV_MSL_Season_4

So between 8th March and 14th March he was holder of the title of current champion in all three competitions even if he was sure to not defend his OSL title in this period.
iSiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1075 Posts
March 21 2016 17:57 GMT
#28
I'm still mad at flash for stripping the tyrant of the title best player ever this was a great trip down memory lane though.
Grouty @HoN/PCKJ <--<333 || Jaedong Fan Cafe GFX
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
March 21 2016 18:04 GMT
#29
Thank you Waxangel! It really helped me to put some actual numbers and context to the "Flash in God mode 09-10" line.

Still, I have difficulties painting the picture of Flash in God mode. The Flash I know is predictable, stubborn, and makes the most painful wrong calls... I wish I was around here during that time to watch it live -.-
quirinus
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Croatia2489 Posts
March 21 2016 18:06 GMT
#30
On March 22 2016 02:03 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
daily reminder http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/62621-flash-vs-intermind

Great article. As a Flash/Terran hater it's just disgusting how good he was.


haha that thread

I remember watching the game where flash cheesed bisu, and I thoroughly enjoyed it, since bisu beat my boy savior.
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Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
March 21 2016 18:09 GMT
#31
The days of Heroes, Flash lived in an era of of stunning players in BW. Its a shame wont see the likes of him again
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
March 21 2016 18:14 GMT
#32
Such a great read! Thanks a lot for this one. I wonder how much his time away from from BW deteriorated his skill level. I saw some VODS from his stream but I cannot judge such a thing :-)

Even though I mostly follow SC2 I recently got interested in watching BW again and I feel like the entertainment value in it is still really high and it's really awesome that he streams. Reading a piece like this really makes me wish BW was as big as in the day
BeStFAN
Profile Blog Joined April 2015
483 Posts
March 21 2016 18:16 GMT
#33
he was still a teenager when he left SC1.
real shame he had to switch to SC2, the last OSL might have looked different if he wasn't practicing for Hybrid Proleague
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KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
March 21 2016 18:24 GMT
#34
Thanks, I will share this article whenever asks me "So who is this Flash guy?"
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-21 23:29:12
March 21 2016 18:37 GMT
#35
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-21 18:45:59
March 21 2016 18:44 GMT
#36
On March 22 2016 01:55 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 01:54 Ej_ wrote:
On March 22 2016 01:50 Elentos wrote:
Now here I was hoping this would be a guide on how to become a god. The "experts" have let me down again.

step 1: 14CC every game

But what about the other steps? MarineKing had step 1 down and look what became of him.


Step 2. Build 2 armory
Step 3. Never move out if you're not maxed out.
Step 4. Forget turrets
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CrayonPopChoa
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada761 Posts
March 21 2016 18:45 GMT
#37
I started following BW on TL just before the EVER OSL in 2009, and as luck would have it that was the beginning off Flashes dominant run. The game vs Calm on fighting spirit is still my favorite BW game ever, at that time once zerg got to like 4 base gas you were pretty fucked as sk terran, no one was doing pure mech switches, flash did the next best thing, just massed a shit ton of tanks and then kept moving his marines up and down with vessels, picking off defilers and whatever he could, to soften the sledge hammer blows that Calm would keep throwing at him. Here is the vod for anyone that might be interested.+ Show Spoiler +
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33466 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-21 18:48:15
March 21 2016 18:47 GMT
#38
On March 22 2016 02:26 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +

The road to Brood War greatness went through four legends: BoxeR, NaDa, iloveoov, and sAviOr.9 Three-time champion BoxeR was included for his status as the original Brood War superstar, with his immense popularity being the catalyst behind the modern esports revolution that started in Korea.

As for the other three, they were revered for their sheer dominance and overwhelming weight of accomplishments. Of all the progamers to have ever played, they were the only ones to have won four or more major championships.

Strictly speaking - incorrect. By the time Flash started his miracle run at the start of 2009, Jaedong already had 4 golds and golden mouse. He also had 5th gold merely week after Flash's 2nd gold.


I state later on in the article that Jaedong had four championships before Flash. There's two main reasons I didn't write about Jaedong in the specific section you quoted.

1: Even with fourth and fifth titles, Jaedong never achieved consensus bonjwa status (which partially contributed to bonjwa theory falling apart). I really wanted to avoid going on a long tangent about bonjwa theory and the furious debate over whether or not Jaedong qualified.

2: I wanted to keep the narrative focused on Flash. Flash and JD are inextricably intertwined, and perhaps the best way to tell either of their stories is as a pairing.. But for the sake of this article, where conciseness was one of my key concerns, I chose to tunnel-vision somewhat on Flash.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
March 21 2016 18:56 GMT
#39
Inspirational
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lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
March 21 2016 19:02 GMT
#40
wow what a great article. Flash was the greatest no doubt about that.
Too bad he didnt try out lotv for a year or two- considering his perfomance in the last couple of months in hots. I will never forgive him for abandoning us
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