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Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
August 12 2016 14:30 GMT
#141
Very nice post Waxy, was nice to read you, it's been a while

(But NaDa still #1 in my heart <3)
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
August 12 2016 19:52 GMT
#142
Flash is great, but he was especially good at beating Jeadong in finals. At a time when Jeadong was the best (so he would beat everyone else for Flash), that was especially valuable. I wonder if Jaedong was not there, if Flash's dominance would have been quite as staggering.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-12 20:21:20
August 12 2016 20:20 GMT
#143
On August 13 2016 04:52 figq wrote:
Flash is great, but he was especially good at beating Jeadong in finals. At a time when Jeadong was the best (so he would beat everyone else for Flash), that was especially valuable. I wonder if Jaedong was not there, if Flash's dominance would have been quite as staggering.


If Tyrant wasn't there Flash could grab 2 more trophies - 4th OSL and MSL. Also he lost to JD 2008 GomTV starleague which was pretty important tournament. Same rule if God wasn't there JD could grab 4th OSL and 3rd and after then 4th MSL. Flash robbed two times Jaedong's triple MSL champion achievment golden badge.
sunbeams are never made like me...
WhosQuany
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany257 Posts
August 12 2016 20:55 GMT
#144
Just recently i saw game were flash showed off a sick Hold in a TvT in BW its just skill love the game love the Player great Read Wax

p.s. Finally got done reading
Goin back to Cali
oelgofantarek
Profile Joined August 2016
2 Posts
August 16 2016 23:59 GMT
#145
Waxangel you have a typo/mistake. Should be "god", not "God". God with capital is the only one christian God while there can be many gods, each one of his own domain so Flash cant be "God" but he can be "god".
noname_
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
459 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-16 18:58:56
September 16 2016 12:53 GMT
#146
I always thought/had a feeling that in that GOMTV StarLeague (s1) when Flash obliterated Savior from a seemingly hopeless position (natural cc lifted, the zerg muta harassing effectively) on Blue Storm, and when Flash beaten oov on Beakmagoji in a mass vult tvt, meant eternal slump for both savo and oov.
edit: Not sure off or not, but I think I`ll share it. I seen a couple of posts claiming whoever was the best player. We have to consider time and other important factors into this (like the map styles completely changed from the beginning).
As all sports/games do evolve in their lives. First we had a Boxer with his great insight, innovations and magic tricks, superb micro, etc. He got surpassed by a generation of "more complete" players, they already had those properties what made they predecessors great, they didn`t had to put too much tgought into the game, but they had a more round execution, better overall mechanics, faster hands. Like the era of Nada/oov, etc. The game evolved, we had some innovators on the way, but mainly the better players were the mechanically better (I`m not talking about apm). The game nowdays rewards the mechanically better players. This is normal evolution.
If we take glance at the chess world, the majority of good gms have a pretty solid knowledge of theory. Theory what the predecessors (or computers) had to put thought into. Today gms don`t have to. The fifth move of a sicilian maybe was a new thing for somebody back in the day, and in the present (some years ago) Vishi won a 40 move game against Carlsen from pure preparation with the computer and assistants. Chess is pretty rewarding for players who have great work ethics, great memory, the percentage what talent counts decreases. Give me any 4 year old, and I bet you, I`ll make him chess GM. Take a look at bodybuilding: in the early years we had great physics with symmetry. The only facet in which the bodybuilders could improve was mass and dryness. So they grew bigger and bigger (while ruining their symmetry completely), we now have Ronnies and Phils with GH guts, going to the stage half dead (literally).
All these have some (same) things and points in common, while a sport`s/game`s scene getting better, the competition getting harder, you`ll have fewer and fewer rooms to improve, and these "rooms" will be accentuated over everything else.
3point14
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany890 Posts
October 03 2016 22:06 GMT
#147
I dont even play or watch BW but these articles are what have always made TL so great!
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
October 03 2016 22:21 GMT
#148
I did not read it, but - is it again something about Neeb? :-)

User was temp banned for this post.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 03 2016 22:26 GMT
#149
On October 04 2016 07:21 Diabolique wrote:
I did not read it, but - is it again something about Neeb? :-)


Yh Neeb is the new god of disruptors
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
empty.bottle
Profile Joined July 2009
685 Posts
October 10 2016 21:42 GMT
#150
Great article, however Flash was not able to best NaDa in, perhaps the most important factor to determine the greatest player of all time, NaDa's body will remain strong.
magokwin
Profile Joined September 2013
Korea (South)3 Posts
October 14 2016 08:34 GMT
#151
Nice article
I hope many Korean read this.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
October 14 2016 13:01 GMT
#152
Next you need to write about the real God elfi
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
October 14 2016 14:47 GMT
#153
On October 14 2016 22:01 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Next you need to write about the real God elfi


Dead meme is dead.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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wikiooz
Profile Joined October 2016
Iran1 Post
October 19 2016 08:02 GMT
#154
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
October 19 2016 08:57 GMT
#155
Great read - only beaten by the greatness of Flash himself
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
November 22 2016 07:32 GMT
#156
I miss Brood War...
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-22 07:42:09
November 22 2016 07:41 GMT
#157
On November 22 2016 16:32 DyEnasTy wrote:
I miss Brood War...


Why ? It's not gone. There's Jaedong, FlaSh, Bisu, Hiya, nada. And there's tournaments
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
November 23 2016 05:46 GMT
#158
On November 22 2016 16:41 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2016 16:32 DyEnasTy wrote:
I miss Brood War...


Why ? It's not gone. There's Jaedong, FlaSh, Bisu, Hiya, nada. And there's tournaments



True. But its not near what it was when I was heavily into the game. Its different now, and I am different. I have a family, self employed and a fraction of the free time I used to have. Maybe the better term is: I miss the old days.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
Sanjana
Profile Joined December 2016
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-03 17:22:13
December 03 2016 17:20 GMT
#159
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Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
December 03 2016 18:00 GMT
#160
On November 23 2016 14:46 DyEnasTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2016 16:41 FFW_Rude wrote:
On November 22 2016 16:32 DyEnasTy wrote:
I miss Brood War...


Why ? It's not gone. There's Jaedong, FlaSh, Bisu, Hiya, nada. And there's tournaments



True. But its not near what it was when I was heavily into the game. Its different now, and I am different. I have a family, self employed and a fraction of the free time I used to have. Maybe the better term is: I miss the old days.

In a future far far away you will be able to live a life like that in your older days aswell
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