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Greatest HotS Players of All Time: Part 1 - Page 5

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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
February 25 2016 09:04 GMT
#81
You only have to beat those players in front of you, but stuichu focuses a lot on who you beat to get to a place in a tournament. So it explains certain things that crop up.

Polt is the interesting one. It's easy to forget that he figured out how to beat Top Tier Protoss during the Blink Era. Those games were awesome to watch, too!
Railgan
Profile Joined August 2010
Switzerland1509 Posts
February 25 2016 09:05 GMT
#82
If Polt is in the top 10 I am going to lose it
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-25 09:19:21
February 25 2016 09:17 GMT
#83
On February 25 2016 17:01 Dungeontay wrote:
oh, and why the f*** is Classic only 11th?? 2 Korean titles, 2 semis at blizzcon, overall very solid toss. I dare you if Rain is ahead of him with his single GSL title. I think the Classic anti-hype is really undeserved


Rain crushes Classic easily. He has a:

+ Show Spoiler +

- GSL victory
- OSL runner-up
- Hotsix Cup victory
- HSC victory
- SSL ro4
- 2nd in IEM
- GSL 2014 ro4
- Better SPL record in both seasons
- full year more of being a top-tier Protoss


Taeja, herO, Maru, Zest, sOs, soO, Life, and Bogus also easily beat him. Yes even Taeja

I guessed that Polt has to be in the top 10 since he hasn't shown up yet (can't think of anyone else major that's missing), but I don't think I'd agree with placing him that high.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Executer08
Profile Joined June 2015
Germany163 Posts
February 25 2016 09:54 GMT
#84
On February 25 2016 07:07 JonnySC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 07:04 Charoisaur wrote:
Another reason Classic is so underrated imo is because he's on SKT.
It's easy to be overshadowed on a team that is so stacked.
If he would be the undeniable ace for a team like herO for CJ or Maru for Jin Air he would get much more praise


Agree with that. Classic has always been a really good SPL player and had one of the best winrates last season. Problem is he only played one ace match.


interestingly there was only one player on SKT who played 2 ace matches last year (i think it was dark and he was also the only one on SKT to lose an ace match :D )
"You have the image of being a robotic, stoic player among foreign fans. What do you think about that?" - "I don’t think it’s incorrect." || letodSWAG
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-25 09:56:03
February 25 2016 09:55 GMT
#85
On February 25 2016 18:54 Executer08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 07:07 JonnySC2 wrote:
On February 25 2016 07:04 Charoisaur wrote:
Another reason Classic is so underrated imo is because he's on SKT.
It's easy to be overshadowed on a team that is so stacked.
If he would be the undeniable ace for a team like herO for CJ or Maru for Jin Air he would get much more praise


Agree with that. Classic has always been a really good SPL player and had one of the best winrates last season. Problem is he only played one ace match.


interestingly there was only one player on SKT who played 2 ace matches last year (i think it was dark and he was also the only one on SKT to lose an ace match :D )


Well they hardly ever lost 2 sets to start with tbf
IIRC SKT do it on team house form, and whoever's doing the best that week gets sent out (can't remember where I read / heard it)
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Naikonz
Profile Joined October 2014
Romania65 Posts
February 25 2016 09:57 GMT
#86
sOs should definitely get first place here IMO. 2 out of 3 blizzcon world championships AND another 100k tournament in IEM Katowice, + a tournament in Korea. I love TaeJa, but these wins are simply the best out of all HotS
Chant1
Profile Joined June 2015
37 Posts
February 25 2016 10:08 GMT
#87
Spoiler alert! Number 1 --> SOS Number 2 -->Life
Lgnarrow
Profile Joined April 2015
104 Posts
February 25 2016 10:09 GMT
#88
Taeja #1
Executer08
Profile Joined June 2015
Germany163 Posts
February 25 2016 10:13 GMT
#89
On February 25 2016 18:55 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 18:54 Executer08 wrote:
On February 25 2016 07:07 JonnySC2 wrote:
On February 25 2016 07:04 Charoisaur wrote:
Another reason Classic is so underrated imo is because he's on SKT.
It's easy to be overshadowed on a team that is so stacked.
If he would be the undeniable ace for a team like herO for CJ or Maru for Jin Air he would get much more praise


Agree with that. Classic has always been a really good SPL player and had one of the best winrates last season. Problem is he only played one ace match.


interestingly there was only one player on SKT who played 2 ace matches last year (i think it was dark and he was also the only one on SKT to lose an ace match :D )


Well they hardly ever lost 2 sets to start with tbf
IIRC SKT do it on team house form, and whoever's doing the best that week gets sent out (can't remember where I read / heard it)


yeah even prime managed to win 2 sets one more time than SKT lost 2 sets.
however they do it, it seems to work out rather well
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
February 25 2016 10:32 GMT
#90
Cool, another stuchiu ranking!

Definitely like the part on Classic. It's true he's not been really flashy, but that guy can do anything as protoss. I've been a fan since that game against Rain I think on Neo Planet S where he'd combine great max army engagment just outside the base at 6 o'clock, positioning, flanking with that warp prism full of zealots, and great micro. The combination of these was cool to watch.

Also, small mistake I think:

Difference between Bomber and ByuL:

Bomber’s overall results isn’t too different from MMA except Bomber had an additional WCS Season 2 finals victory as well as his Red Bull Washington victory which was filled with strong players. Bomber just hit a higher peak overall than MMA and that along with the length of time he was active as one of the best players in HotS (2 years to ByuL’s half a year) was enough to put him over ByuL.
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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
February 25 2016 10:43 GMT
#91
Bomber doesn't belong on the list at all >_>.
insitelol
Profile Joined August 2012
845 Posts
February 25 2016 10:44 GMT
#92
lolwhat parting is easily top 3
Less is more.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55585 Posts
February 25 2016 10:49 GMT
#93
On February 25 2016 19:43 ZAiNs wrote:
Bomber doesn't belong on the list at all >_>.

He achieved quite a bit and he was pretty strong in 2013/2014, it's understandable for him to be on the list.

On February 25 2016 19:44 insitelol wrote:
lolwhat parting is easily top 3

Not even close. He won 3 premier tournaments in HotS. He has no wins in Korea. His high peak skill level can't carry him past the fact that there's many players who just flatly won a lot more.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-25 11:00:35
February 25 2016 10:52 GMT
#94
On February 25 2016 19:43 ZAiNs wrote:
Bomber doesn't belong on the list at all >_>.


He doesn't deserve to be ranked ahead of ByuL, but I'd say he narrowly makes the cut at #15.

Less I've missed someone (entirely possible) the closest competition he'd have at that point is MMA and Dear. Neither of which can touch him.

edit: oh and I think Solar is also competitive for being just outside the top 15.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55585 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-25 11:22:26
February 25 2016 11:11 GMT
#95
On February 25 2016 19:52 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 19:43 ZAiNs wrote:
Bomber doesn't belong on the list at all >_>.


He doesn't deserve to be ranked ahead of ByuL

I'd say he does. He was way, way, way ahead of ByuL in 2013 and 2014. To the point where I don't think ByuL's 2015 is enough to catch up. If ByuL had won a single one of those tournaments definitely. But the way it is, Bomber just had way more success in HotS overall and his skill peaks were actually pretty high. Like, at RB: Washington he 4-0'd Cure who was a GSL semifinalist at the time.

Also honorable mentions to Jaedong for placing 2nd in about 1000 events in HotS.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12131 Posts
February 25 2016 11:28 GMT
#96
On February 25 2016 19:49 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 19:43 ZAiNs wrote:
Bomber doesn't belong on the list at all >_>.

He achieved quite a bit and he was pretty strong in 2013/2014, it's understandable for him to be on the list.

Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 19:44 insitelol wrote:
lolwhat parting is easily top 3

Not even close. He won 3 premier tournaments in HotS. He has no wins in Korea. His high peak skill level can't carry him past the fact that there's many players who just flatly won a lot more.

WCG KR 2013 - 1st

Uhh, KR stands for Korea, right?
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
ZertoN
Profile Joined February 2014
Germany214 Posts
February 25 2016 11:32 GMT
#97
On February 25 2016 09:06 wjat wrote:
The top 2 players for each race in hots were:

-Protoss: sOs, herO

-Zerg: Life, soO,

-Terran: Innovation, Maru.


1-Innovation 2-Life 3-sOs 4-soO 5-Maru 6-herO



byul should be really really close for zergs, but anyway you have done a good job, you just made a better list than this useless writer is gonna make

"I don't like games that i need to think a lot, i am not interested in those games." - TaeJa, 2016
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12131 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-25 11:39:50
February 25 2016 11:39 GMT
#98
On February 25 2016 20:32 ZertoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 09:06 wjat wrote:
The top 2 players for each race in hots were:

-Protoss: sOs, herO

-Zerg: Life, soO,

-Terran: Innovation, Maru.


1-Innovation 2-Life 3-sOs 4-soO 5-Maru 6-herO



byul should be really really close for zergs, but anyway you have done a good job, you just made a better list than this useless writer is gonna make


sOs has the biggest wins in his sleeve from HotS. His achievement list is bigger than Innovation's so if Innovation > Life, then the proper list would be sOs, Inno, Life. Though I think that with the number of tournaments Life visited he will get enough StuPoints to get over sOs.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
February 25 2016 12:08 GMT
#99
I think Life and sOs are insanely close in HotS. But sOs should be #1 just because of those 2 Blizzcon wins. I mean in this world of inconsistence and volatiliy how likely was it that a player as unpredictable as sOs would win the most important title two times out of three ? It's just sheer class. A no-brainer for me.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12131 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-25 12:23:07
February 25 2016 12:22 GMT
#100
On February 25 2016 21:08 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I think Life and sOs are insanely close in HotS. But sOs should be #1 just because of those 2 Blizzcon wins. I mean in this world of inconsistence and volatiliy how likely was it that a player as unpredictable as sOs would win the most important title two times out of three ? It's just sheer class. A no-brainer for me.

Depends on how big value these wins will have. Life has plenty of 2nd places(or top4) from other tournaments, he was pretty active.

Also how big value reverse all-kill of KT has Mwahahahaha
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
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