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On February 25 2016 07:14 pure.Wasted wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 06:54 ejozl wrote:
hmm too lazy to check liquipedia, but I wonder who wins HotS, Taeja or Life? Someone who over 3 years managed a single Ro16 finish between all Korean leagues, and made no contributions to Proleague, should not under any circumstance in the universe be top 3, never mind top 1.
I agree. Taeja accomplished next to nothing in the toughest (Korean) leagues of HotS. Definitely top Koreigner though.
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I feel like the first list should have been just WoL if you were going to do this list. Now there's overlap.
Also Classic at 11... idk seems a little low but we'll have to see the rest of the list
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On February 25 2016 07:20 rednusa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 07:14 pure.Wasted wrote:On February 25 2016 06:54 ejozl wrote:
hmm too lazy to check liquipedia, but I wonder who wins HotS, Taeja or Life? Someone who over 3 years managed a single Ro16 finish between all Korean leagues, and made no contributions to Proleague, should not under any circumstance in the universe be top 3, never mind top 1. I agree. Taeja accomplished next to nothing in the toughest (Korean) leagues of HotS. Definitely top Koreigner though.
I would say Polt top Koreigner in HotS ?
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Re the six dragons comment, if youre talking about the period you really need to include Dear as a 7th. He peaked early but it was a high peak, at least as high as parting ever was and probably rain in hots (who did a lot better in wol)
yeah haha, I remember that brief period where Dear figured out that if anyone tried to go mutas against him, he could just go kill them. swear I saw all his pvz games end like that
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On February 25 2016 06:34 Shellshock wrote:
I'm interested to see what keeps Classic at just 11 with 2x Korean starleague champ and 5 minimum top 4 finishes
Well, compare for yourselves Classic to some of the players who could end up on this list:
Classic - GSL & SSL champ, IEM champ, 3 add. top 4s (2 of those Blizzcon), good-strong SPL performance
Maru - 2x Starleague champ, double royal roader, 7 add. top 4 finishes, strong Proleague performance
Zest - Code S champ, GSL global champ, IEM WC, KeSPA Cup champ, 3 add. top 4 performances & strong SPL performance
Life - 6 premier wins, including a GSL and a Blizzcon, dual Blizzcon finals, 8 add. top 4s, meh in team leagues
INnoVation - 2x GSL champ, WCS season final winner, IEM win, a 3rd GSL finals & 8 add. top 4s, strong team league performance
herO - SSL champ, KeSPA Cup champ, 3x IEM champ, 6 add. top 4s, strong SPL performance
Rain - GSL champ, Hot6ix Cup champ, HSC champ, 5 add. top 4s, strong SPL performance
TaeJa - 8 premier wins, 8 add. top 4s (1 at Blizzcon), strong (non-SPL) team league performance
sOs - dual Blizzcon champ, IEM WC, MSI & Hot6ix Cup champ, 5 add. top 4s, strong SPL performance
Polt - 3x WCS champ, MLG champ, RB: Detroit champ, 7 add. top 4s
soO - 4 consecutive GSL finals, KeSPA Cup champ, 3 add. top 4s, good-strong SPL performance
Classic woulda been higher than 11 on my personal list tbh 
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On February 25 2016 07:28 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 06:34 Shellshock wrote:
I'm interested to see what keeps Classic at just 11 with 2x Korean starleague champ and 5 minimum top 4 finishes Well, compare for yourselves Classic to some of the players who could end up on this list: Classic - GSL & SSL champ, IEM champ, 3 add. top 4s (2 of those Blizzcon), good-strong SPL performance Maru - 2x Starleague champ, double royal roader, 7 add. top 4 finishes, strong Proleague performance Zest - Code S champ, GSL global champ, IEM WC, KeSPA Cup champ, 3 add. top 4 performances & strong SPL performance Life - 6 premier wins, including a GSL and a Blizzcon, dual Blizzcon finals, 8 add. top 4s INnoVation - 2x GSL champ, WCS season final winner, IEM win, a 3rd GSL finals & 8 add. top 4s, strong team league performance herO - SSL champ, KeSPA Cup champ, 3x IEM champ, 6 add. top 4s, strong SPL performance Rain - GSL champ, Hot6ix Cup champ, HSC champ, 5 add. top 4s, strong SPL performance TaeJa - 8 premier wins, 8 add. top 4s (1 at Blizzcon), strong team league performance sOs - dual Blizzcon champ, IEM WC, MSI & Hot6ix Cup champ, 5 add. top 4s, strong SPL performance Polt - 3x WCS champ, MLG champ, RB: Detroit champ, 7 add. top 4s soO - 4 consecutive GSL finals, KeSPA Cup champ, 3 add. top 4s, good-strong SPL performance Classic woulda been higher than 11 on my personal list tbh
yeah me too most definitely, but I can't wait to see stuchiu's stance on the subject 
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On February 25 2016 06:54 ejozl wrote:
hmm too lazy to check liquipedia, but I wonder who wins HotS, Taeja or Life?
Life is #1
sOs #2
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On February 25 2016 07:30 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 06:54 ejozl wrote:
hmm too lazy to check liquipedia, but I wonder who wins HotS, Taeja or Life? Life is #1 sOs #2
no GSL or SS2L for sOs though... But yeah his performances in Blizzcons and 100k tourneys are probably worth a top 2 spot.
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Next a ranking of Stuchius rankings please...
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On February 25 2016 07:20 rednusa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 07:14 pure.Wasted wrote:On February 25 2016 06:54 ejozl wrote:
hmm too lazy to check liquipedia, but I wonder who wins HotS, Taeja or Life? Someone who over 3 years managed a single Ro16 finish between all Korean leagues, and made no contributions to Proleague, should not under any circumstance in the universe be top 3, never mind top 1. I agree. Taeja accomplished next to nothing in the toughest (Korean) leagues of HotS. Definitely top Koreigner though.
Pretty hard to achieve something in a league you don't compete in..
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I never thought about the "Six Dragons of SC2", I like it
But what do we do with Dear? Can we leave him out because his peak was so so short? Also because if we include him it becomes 7 dragons and the fun is ruined
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On February 25 2016 07:39 Silvana wrote:I never thought about the "Six Dragons of SC2", I like it But what do we do with Dear? Can we leave him out because his peak was so so short? Also because if we include him it becomes 7 dragons and the fun is ruined
Rain retired, Dear is back. Still 6
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I would have put Classic in front of Rain personally (assuming Rain is in this and that there is not a surprise Hyun or Snute or somethings like that).
Also, WTF is that Soulkey photo! This is scary as shit, with is tinny back bend and the glasses he look like those freaky Xcom aliens that try to look like human.
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On February 25 2016 07:45 Nakajin wrote:
I would have put Classic in front of Rain personally (assuming Rain is in this and that there is not a surprise Hyun or Snute or somethings like that).
Also, WTF is that Soulkey photo! This is scary as shit, with is tinny back bend and the glasses he look like those freaky Xcom aliens that try to look like human.
ha ha now you say it the picture looks kinda strange indeed ^^
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On February 25 2016 07:19 Incognoto wrote:
I don't think that a single foreigner will be in the top 10.
Maru should be there comfortably though.
Agreed.
I also think Life is clearly the #1 player in HOTS.
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1. Life: GSL, Blizzcon, another blizzcon finals, won the first HotS tournament, an IEM, a DH; I don't think this one is debatable.
2. TaeJa: I guess people will never agree on this one but 8 premiers and A LOT of other top finishes are enough to put him at #2 IMO. and yes he beat some of the best players in the worlds to win his titles, has a winning record against soO, Zest, Life, INnoVation, sOs.
3. sOs: won 3 of the most important tournaments in HotS, when it matters he just is on another level.
4. INnoVation: Double GSL winner + another GSL final, a WCS season finals and looking completely unbeatable at times.
5. herO/Zest: this is dead even imo. Both have a starleague and 3-4 other tournament wins and a strong PL performance. Can't really decide on that one.
6. herO/Zest
7. soO: 4 gsl finals, DH finals, IEM finals, Kespa cup win. if he just performed better in finals he'd be WAY higher on the list.
8. Maru: Dual starleague wins and a boss in proleague. He does things nobody else can but his stubborness really made him win less than a player with his potential should.
9. Classic: Dual starleague wins, ro4 at two blizzcons, won a stacked IEM.
10. Polt: 3 WCS victories, an MLG and a red bull battlegrounds + his miracle run at IEM cologne.
But unlike TaeJa he didn't really beat the best players in the world for his victories (except Rain and classic at that IEM of course)
edit : switched sOs and Inno
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We're gonna have to mention that guy when talking about this. lol soO's going to be #2, isn't he?
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hit quote instead of edit .:.
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Well... I guess we needed to officially declare Life number 1 on some list, so why not.
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Did we ever get one of these for WoL? Would love to see the rankings for that again...
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