On February 14 2016 08:59 Seeker wrote:
Starting from this page on, I will be moderating more harshly toward any mention of MarineKing's name. This thread has NOTHING to do with MarineKing. Do not talk about MarineKing even if you are defending him. Just don't do it. Please no match-fixing accusations on MarineKing or any other player if it has not officially been confirmed.

This goes for other players too. -The_Templar

alexanderzero

United States659 Posts

January 31 2016 09:31 GMT

#41

Why would anyone in Korea want to be a spectator of SC2 at this point? League is vastly more popular, and doesn't appear to have the - now fairly consistent - history with matchfixing.

I mean, are there really people out there who can follow SC2 matches and would rather watch LoL? I believe that SC2 is the best game there is for spectators.

Noonius

Estonia17413 Posts

January 31 2016 09:31 GMT

#42

On January 31 2016 18:30 WrathSCII wrote:

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if I get a penny every time someone makes a pun out of this whole case...

then you'd have about tree fiddy

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

January 31 2016 09:31 GMT

#43

In these types of scenarios, does the public become aware of the specific matches that Life is accused of fixing?

Noonius

Estonia17413 Posts

January 31 2016 09:32 GMT

#44

On January 31 2016 18:31 alexanderzero wrote:

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I mean, are there really people out there who can follow SC2 matches and would rather watch LoL? I believe that SC2 is the best game there is for spectators.

I can't watch lol or dota, if I want to experience farming for 20 minutes, I'd actually go and play wow

Nabe

51 Posts

January 31 2016 09:33 GMT

#45

Really unbelievable...

이들은 SKT 프로리그 2015 시즌1 등 e스포츠 '스타크래프트 2' 5경기에서 돈을 주고받으며 승부조작을 벌인 혐의를 받았다.

Is this saying he did it in five games?

alexanderzero

United States659 Posts

January 31 2016 09:33 GMT

#46

On January 31 2016 18:31 WhalesFromSpace wrote:
In these types of scenarios, does the public become aware of the specific matches that Life is accused of fixing?

They revealed some of the matches involved with the PRIME scandal, but afaik the brood war matches were never revealed.

NovemberstOrm

Canada16217 Posts

January 31 2016 09:33 GMT

#47

On January 31 2016 18:31 WhalesFromSpace wrote:
In these types of scenarios, does the public become aware of the specific matches that Life is accused of fixing?

Probably only if he's convicted for said charge.

Melix

United States89 Posts

January 31 2016 09:33 GMT

#48

The timing of this arrest along with the fact that it's been expressly linked to the match fixing scandal last year is highly suggestive that the prosecutors must have the goods on Life. The fact that they elected not to prosecute him last year, but after waiting several months have now chosen to make this move means they must have found concrete evidence in the interim -- wouldn't be surprising if one of the twelve people indicted last year have turned state's evidence. Sad state of affairs.

Growiel

Korea (South)363 Posts

January 31 2016 09:33 GMT

#49

Wolf did say back during the PRIME incident that some high qualiber players were involved and to prepare to be disapointed.

I guess that's who he was talking about.

PresenceSc2

Australia4032 Posts

January 31 2016 09:35 GMT

#50

On January 31 2016 18:33 Melix wrote:
The timing of this arrest along with the fact that it's been expressly linked to the match fixing scandal last year is highly suggestive that the prosecutors must have the goods on Life. The fact that they elected not to prosecute him last year, but after waiting several months have now chosen to make this move means they must have found concrete evidence in the interim -- wouldn't be surprising if one of the twelve people indicted last year have turned state's evidence. Sad state of affairs.

Did they wait for him to turn a certain age? His birthday was this month.

phantomfive

Korea (South)404 Posts

January 31 2016 09:35 GMT

#51

On January 31 2016 18:28 Noonius wrote:
he made over 100k from prize money alone in 2015, plus add kespa salary on top of that, why the hell would he matchfix? the money get offered to him to throw matches must have been insane. No way he would do that for a couple of grand or even like 10k. But then again, when you're 19 you might now think logically when it comes to things like that

He's a young guy. Peer pressure.
I can tell you I didn't always make good decisions at his age.

I am still his fan, and if he streams, I will donate.

iMrising

United States1099 Posts

January 31 2016 09:35 GMT

#52

This makes sense.
this just makes me so sad and frustrated

KrazyTrumpet

United States2520 Posts

January 31 2016 09:36 GMT

#53

On January 31 2016 18:33 Growiel wrote:
Wolf did say back during the PRIME incident that some high qualiber players were involved and to prepare to be disapointed.

I guess that's who he was talking about.

I'm sort of worried that Life is merely the tip of a larger iceberg. Like, is this the start of the unraveling that Olimoley and others hinted at all those months ago? Have they finally built up cases to go after a lot of the really big fish and Life is just the first of many to come?

This honestly has all sorts of terrible ramifications.

Boucot

France15997 Posts

January 31 2016 09:36 GMT

#54

By the way, what sentences did YoDa, B4 and Gerrard get ?

TRaFFiC

Canada1448 Posts

January 31 2016 09:37 GMT

#55

On January 31 2016 18:13 Thouhastmail wrote:

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The one who`s gonna quit following this scene?

I dunno. But I put up with sAviOr, Prime and Sonic`s flaunting. And we got Life. I`m wondering if there`s any value left to follow this scene.

I don't understand this logic. If you love sc2 and watching high level tournaments, then matchfixing won't suddenly make you not love sc2. Maybe you watch the games with a more open mind.

Obviously, if convicted, I've lost respect for Life as a person. But as a player I still think he is one of the greatest and nothing can take that from him. You don't win multiple gsl by throwing matches.